Lupe Fiasco - SLR3 (Royce Diss)

[Higher Tech]

If it wasn’t for PREMIER you wouldn’t be…
If it wasn’t for…
If it wasn’t for…
If it wasn’t for…
If it wasn’t for …
nikka, I got a dozen more


That’s how you feeling bout Royce, Wasalu?

Yall can clown me, but I didn't understand what he was gettin at with this line

 

[ThirdAct]

Yall can clown me, but I didn't understand what he was gettin at with this line

He's saying if it wasn't for Eminem and D12, Royce never woulda got put on.

 

[Formerly Black Trash]

Yall can clown me, but I didn't understand what he was gettin at with this line

Eminem I thought

 

[Formerly Black Trash]

If it wasn’t for PREMIER you wouldn’t be…
If it wasn’t for…
If it wasn’t for…
If it wasn’t for…
If it wasn’t for …
nikka, I got a dozen more


That’s how you feeling bout Royce, Wasalu?

When that nikka shouts Premier like he's doing a seance
I want to do a thread where rappers said a line, and how they said it just gave you chills
Nicki and Eminem are good at that shyt

 

[Megadeus]

I actually really like Royce, but this just aint a good matchup for breh.

 

[Higher Tech]

How you gonna break down the situation when the people there already broke it down


As a producer can you talk about how you approached your collaboration with Nas?
To me, ghostwriting, as far as I know, is hiring somebody to write words for you to actually say. That didn’t happen. The way we got hired for Nas’ project wasn’t clear up front. M1 was in L.A. before I came to L.A. and he was like, “Nas wants to bring you out here to work on this project.” I remembered thinking we were just going to do a song together. But I later found out we were there to work in general: production, writing and ideas to help develop some of the songs on the album. So of course I’m thinking, “It’s called the ****** album so that means you want dead prez type songs together, right?” But it was revealed to me that Nas wasn’t looking for that. He didn’t want us to rap. He wanted help with beats and concepts. And that surprised me because I’m thinking, “You want beats??? Of all the people to make beats for, you want us to make beats?” I was like, “Wow.”



Somebody coming in the studio helping you write and give you ideas... They helping your pen. I'm sure Lupe has toured plenty of studio doing the same thing. Call it what you want. But COMBINE THIS WITH WHAT HE SAID TO GURU, and you get the story



Time stamped:

"I GAVE JAY SONGS TOO GURU"





Now can someone please explain the other 10 ways to take "I gave songs to jay too" Cause doing the drums on one song isn't "I gave songS to jay too"

I wasn't with you till this post. I see it now.

 

[Higher Tech]

Fans are weird. Regardless of who you think won the battle or who is iller, how in the fukk can anybody listen to Royce's track and not appreciate the level of talent, skill, and emceeing it takes to spit like he spit and say what he says?



I'll say it again for the thousandth time. Rapping is the only art form in history where the "fans" view being skilled in your craft as a negative quality. People are actually subtracting points from Royce for being "too technical".


And I got no dog in the fight. Both MCs are cool but I'm not too big on the music of either one, but goddamn. Acknowledge the pen game of both of these cats.

It's been said all over that Royce's song was a good song, but not a better diss record. I haven't seen anyone say Royce's track was garbage or weak.

 

[Mr. Negative]

Yall can clown me, but I didn't understand what he was gettin at with this line

Royce was known for being the next lyrical out of detroit and being cool with Em

but he got known known for beefing with Em and D12 (I can think of a Dozen more)and being on that beef DVD

Boom with Preem was his biggest brush with mainstream success outside of ghostwriting for Puff and Dre.

 

[Mr. Negative]

Fans are weird. Regardless of who you think won the battle or who is iller, how in the fukk can anybody listen to Royce's track and not appreciate the level of talent, skill, and emceeing it takes to spit like he spit and say what he says?



I'll say it again for the thousandth time. Rapping is the only art form in history where the "fans" view being skilled in your craft as a negative quality. People are actually subtracting points from Royce for being "too technical".


And I got no dog in the fight. Both MCs are cool but I'm not too big on the music of either one, but goddamn. Acknowledge the pen game of both of these cats.

You gotta look at it like Big vs Pac (lyrically) or even better, Em vs MGK.

Big was better lyrically (long kiss goodnight) and even had the FAR more slick lines (if fay have twins she'll prolly have two pacs)

MGK opened up his diss by admitting Em was a better rapper. One of the GOAT rappers. And nobody can deny Em's response was better from a technical rap standpoint.


But Pac and MGK had far better diss tracks.

But I guess that's the main difference. Royce dropped a track basically going "Look how well I can rap" and dissed lupe while doing it.

Lupe dropped a full blown diss track and rapped well while doing it.


(edit: I am in NO WAY comparing MGK to Pac )

 

[Big Boss]

 

[Big Boss]

 

[H.J.Duck]

He's saying if it wasn't for Eminem and D12, Royce never woulda got put on.

I saw a similar thing in this thread earlier. Please explain what did D12 do for Royce's career? Other than lose a battle vs. Royce. Do some people think Royce was a D12 group member, or do they just not know shyt about basic ass hip hop history from the late 90s /early 2000s?

Royce was on an Eminem album before Shady Records existed or D12 was signed to Shady. Royce also had his own solo deal. How did D12 help him? Boom was released like 2-3 years before they started beefing and that's what introduced Royce to a lot of people.

I get that y'all wanna break down lines but there's a chance Lupe just said dozen without a bigger meaning behind it. And if he meant it, it doesn't make any sense.

 

[The Ruler 09]

Royce is most widely known as Eminem's friend, that's his main association. Eminem's "friend" and defender/human shield....

 

[LEEeveryday]

for for for…4x3 = 12…. Dozen more…d12?

It was 4 members in Slaughterhouse too.



That was the 1 inch punch that left Royce seeing stars and Lupe did this shyt so casually.

Royce gotta know you can't go walking in a park trying to strategize getting through a lions den without a weapon.

 

[LEEeveryday]

I saw a similar thing in this thread earlier. Please explain what did D12 do for Royce's career? Other than lose a battle vs. Royce. Do some people think Royce was a D12 group member, or do they just not know shyt about basic ass hip hop history from the late 90s /early 2000s?

Royce was on an Eminem album before Shady Records existed or D12 was signed to Shady. Royce also had his own solo deal. How did D12 help him? Boom was released like 2-3 years before they started beefing and that's what introduced Royce to a lot of people.

I get that y'all wanna break down lines but there's a chance Lupe just said dozen without a bigger meaning behind it. And if he meant it, it doesn't make any sense.

Beefing with D12 gave him life and notoriety with a new fanbase too. Pumped life into his career. The whole all publicity is good publicity notion - leading to a reconciliation which got him out the outhouse.