Lupe Fiasco - SLR3 (Royce Diss)

[Pop123]

I get what you're saying, but Royce wasn't just stacking multis, he was showing a full display of his skill as an MC from a pure rapping perspective. Technically when Rakim and G Rap dropped their super lyrical songs, they wasn't saying anything other than talking about how amazing their rapping skills are. To me, that is part of rap. Just a display of natural talent. Flows, cadence switching, in and out of pockets, effortlessness in how he did it was amazing. I'm not about to downplay Royce's talent.

Lupe was pretty much freestyling or jotting down shyt and then saying it, without much concern for how it sounded or how it flowed. It was just a far better diss record because he was attacking his opponent and had scathing things to say.

The difference tho, with Rakim and G, you could just drop a song where you consider them being "super lyrical" and I could give you at least 10 quotables from each. You have to lightweight struggle to find a fire quotable in that 7 minute Royce song, lol. Royce is my guy, always has been...but ehh. I listened to that joint like 10 times trying to appreciate anything other than the rhyming/flow changes...aint nothing there G'z.

 

[MarcP]

He was basically saying their beef initially started on who raps better not a diss battle, and Royce rapped much better than Lupe on his song than Lupe did in his song, so he shouldn’t respond to Lupe’s diss because it was levels below as far as rapping. Which it was, but I feellike Lupe and Royce were trying to do two different things. Royce was proving he raps better, Lupe was doing a diss record

Once you call a nikka bytch on IG Live the gloves is on at that point. If you decide to come in love tapping and a nikka taps that jaw that's on you. Protect yourself at all times.

 

[FreshAIG]

Exactly. And I'm a bigger Royce fan than Lupe, I laughed cause getting in my car for the first time in a week and I had Royce's Bar Exam 4 in the deck. When I'm just chilling and listening I like Royce's music better cause he flows his ass off and his pen is sick as far as writing bars that sound good. But when talking about rapping better and including lyricism Royce most of the time don't be saying much of nothing. Just rapping about how dope he is, his dikk, or guns. I said before that when he actually raps about particular subjects he loses all the multis and simplifies his style a lot because it's much harder to get a message across AND have all the multis.

Flow is part of rapping better lol

 

[threattonature]

Flow is part of rapping better lol

I expanded on my point.

Even with these two songs I rated Lupe's higher because I thought Royce was over rapping. He loses the impact of the lines by not giving them time to breath and just flowing nonstop, doesn't give time for his lines to sink in so they lose impact and you just zone out and get lost in the flow due to it.

 

[FreshAIG]

The difference tho, with Rakim and G, you could just drop a song where you consider them being "super lyrical" and I could give you at least 10 quotables from each. You have to lightweight struggle to find a fire quotable in that 7 minute Royce song, lol. Royce is my guy, always has been...but ehh. I listened to that joint like 10 times trying to appreciate anything other than the rhyming/flow changes...aint nothing there G'z.

I'm in no way comparing Royce to G Rap or Rakim lol, don't want to get that confused. I'm just speaking on the topic of "not saying anything", while I agree, I don't think that means you're not rapping better than someone. There's too many other factors. And it's not as if he's just rapping incoherent shyt, it makes sense, it's just hollow. Y'all make it sound like he's just saying words that rhyme, he has very coherent and lucid thoughts, it just doesn't mean anything in the sense that it's not leading to any overarching point.

 

[FreshAIG]

Once you call a nikka bytch on IG Live the gloves is on at that point. If you decide to come in love tapping and a nikka taps that jaw that's on you. Protect yourself at all times.

I agree, he should've dissed him

 

[CHICAGO]

This…

nikka YOU TOLD US
NOT TO COUNT ROYCE OUT
BECAUSE HE WAS GONNA COME
BACK HARDER.

NOW YOU COPPING PLEAS?

​

 

[RoseWooD]

As a person that has Lupe and Royce in my top 5 of all time, (Lupe #4 and Royce #5). Noone should be surprised that casual listeners of these artists think Royce won. He obviously rapped better, flowed better, was better lyrically and had the better beat. In my group chat with 17 other nikkas, maybe 2 of them are avid listeners of Lupe and Royce but still not that connected to know how dope Lupe line "you never left Heaven, cuz you already dead" is. I had to explain it to them. Only 1 person out of 17 thinks Lupe won because their not that tune. I'm just happy the 2 best rappers in the world currently are sparring but I've definitely ran Royce "diss" back much more

 

[CHICAGO]

As a person that has Lupe and Royce in my top 5 of all time, (Lupe #4 and Royce #5). Noone should be surprised that casual listeners of these artists think Royce won. He obviously rapped better, flowed better, was better lyrically and had the better beat. In my group chat with 17 other nikkas, maybe 2 of them are avid listeners of Lupe and Royce but still not that connected to know how dope Lupe line "you never left Heaven, cuz you already dead" is. I had to explain it to them. Only 1 person out of 17 thinks Lupe won because their not that tune. I'm just happy the 2 best rappers in the world currently are sparring but I've definitely ran Royce "diss" back much more

NOBODY ON THIS SITE SAID
ROYCE WON OUTSIDE
OF 3-4 DIEHARD STANS.

IDK WHAT TYPE OF WEIRDO nikkaS
YOU GROUP CHAT WITH.

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[Zero]

shyt didn't end up how nikkas wanted and now they scrambling like eggs on Sunday morning

Just adjust the flowers on the tombstone, pay your respects, and keep it moving

 

[Ziggiy]

I’m still ASTOUNDED that anyone thought Royce had a chance in the first place. Lupe Fiasco is one MC you simply DO NOT WANT to battle with.


And on top of that Royce was BEGGING for it and got his block knocked off lmao.

 

[Mr. Negative]

It was brought to my attention that the Budden pod said Royce was a level above Lupe so he didn't have to respond to the diss?

Joe back on the pills?

makes you wonder how he really feel about not getting responses from Drake.

 

[RAW_SPK]

As a Lupe stan…I’m starting to see what people mean lol

nikka YOU TOLD US
NOT TO COUNT ROYCE OUT
BECAUSE HE WAS GONNA COME
BACK HARDER.

NOW YOU COPPING PLEAS?

​

I said dont count him out if he does reply. From what I was told he was working on one but since that live with 3Letterman and them, doesnt sound like he wants to continue it cuz he doesnt have that type of animosity towards Lupe. Yall can call that copping pleas and thats fine but that doesnt change my views on the two records. Lupe had the superior diss but Royce put on a better performance. Plus I was talking more to the people claiming that Lupe’s skillset is just lightyears beyond Royce when thats not true. There’s areas where they both excel at and where one is better than the other. Plus Lupe was right in that this turns into a stan war so I’d rather not engage in it with people who have stakes in this shyt

 

[CHICAGO]

THE LAST TIME ROYCE SPOKE TO LU
THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT BATTLING
ON THE STAGE...

THEN ROYCE CALLED LUPE A bytch...

SAYS HE GONNA SEE HIM IN PERSON
SO THEY CAN REALLY LIVE
IN THE CENTER OF THEIR TRUTHS...

SAYS HE WOULD BREAK
LUPES fukkING NECK...

ENDED THE LIVE BY SAYING...

"SO KEEP ON TALKING, ITS COMING.
YOU GON GET WHAT YOU ASKED FOR.
JUST REMEMBER YOU ASKED FOR IT.
JUST REMEMBER YOU SAID IT
NOT ME"

*TAKES A WEEK TO
DROP A MID DISS BRAGGING
ABOUT 1400 WORDS*

*LU RESPONDS IN HRS*

NOW nikkaS TALKING ABOUT
ROYCE DIDNT THINK
IT WAS GONNA BE THAT TYPE OF ENERGY.

​

 

[NoHalfWay]

THE LAST TIME ROYCE SPOKE TO LU
THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT BATTLING
ON THE STAGE...

THEN ROYCE CALLED LUPE A bytch...

SAYS HE GONNA SEE HIM IN PERSON
SO THEY CAN REALLY LIVE
IN THE CENTER OF THEIR TRUTHS...

SAYS HE WOULD BREAK
LUPES fukkING NECK...

ENDED THE LIVE BY SAYING...

"SO KEEP ON TALKING, ITS COMING.
YOU GON GET WHAT YOU ASKED FOR.
JUST REMEMBER YOU ASKED FOR IT.
JUST REMEMBER YOU SAID IT
NOT ME"

*TAKES A WEEK TO
DROP A MID DISS BRAGGING
ABOUT 1400 WORDS*

*LU RESPONDS IN HRS*

NOW nikkaS TALKING ABOUT
ROYCE DIDNT THINK
IT WAS GONNA BE THAT TYPE OF ENERGY.

​

This whole shyt is embarrassing on Royce’s part.

Then goes on live talking about bad energy cuz Lupe was being hype and energetic about rap nikkas rapping

He was the ONLY person getting super serious about physical intimidation and name calling. There’s something mentally wrong with dude