Lupe Fiasco's "Mural" Video Breakdown

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Dudes with opinions I'd usually agree with were saying how it was "too wordy"

Lupe is definitely feeling that "damned if you do, damned if you don't" curse..

Finding every way possible to hate on something that was simply crafted artfully.

"Its too long." "He's being pretentious." "He only made it for nerds"

:skip:
Yeah, I really never knew he was this hated til this album dropped.

I looked at the list of dudes who 1 starred the Official T&Y thread and none of them even had a post in the thread. Just blindly hating on this man :dead:

People were bytching about dude being cryptic and rapping just to rap, well this video gives you a peak into how he pieced these bars together. How can anybody watch that and not be even a little impressed is beyond me.
 

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Yeah, I really never knew he was this hated til this album dropped.

I looked at the list of dudes who 1 starred the Official T&Y thread and none of them even had a post in the thread. Just blindly hating on this man :dead:

People were bytching about dude being cryptic and rapping just to rap, well this video gives you a peak into how he pieced these bars together. How can anybody watch that and not be even a little impressed is beyond me.
Twitter did a lot of harm to his social image.
 

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Dudes with opinions I'd usually agree with were saying how it was "too wordy"

Lupe is definitely feeling that "damned if you do, damned if you don't" curse..

Finding every way possible to hate on something that was simply crafted artfully.

"Its too long." "He's being pretentious." "He only made it for nerds"

:skip:
if you really want to keep it 100...it is overly wordy just for the sake of being overly wordy.....Elitists gravitate towards Lupe's music..... He is pretentious..... and it's a near 9 minute song.

You think with those facts, that you won't find people pointing out the obvious?





 

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if you really want to keep it 100...it is overly wordy just for the sake of being overly wordy.....Elitists gravitate towards Lupe's music..... He is pretentious..... and it's a near 9 minute song.

You think with those facts, that you won't find people pointing out the obvious?
You fukk with the song or not?
 

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if you really want to keep it 100...it is overly wordy just for the sake of being overly wordy.....Elitists gravitate towards Lupe's music..... He is pretentious..... and it's a near 9 minute song.

You think with those facts, that you won't find people pointing out the obvious?
Every bar has it's place in this Mural, it's how he perceives life, it's his art, not yours. Art will always be subjective. All this "overly wordy" nonsense is only opinion. For the sake of being wordy? The irony. Yes it is for the sake of being wordy, he's a emcee, they use words to paint pictures :heh:

So what that it is 9 minutes long, if he can keep your attention for the duration it doesn't feel too "lengthy." If its not your cup of tea it's just not, cool, but you guys don't even stop and say "hey, if more artists put this much effort into their work music as a whole would be different... I at least appreciate what he's trying to do."

You guys literally chastise him for channeling THAT SAME EFFORT music is lacking :patrice:

"He's spitting knowledge for the sake of spitting knowledge" is essentially what is being hated on because he didn't do it how you all wanted/used to it being fed to you.
 

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Every bar has it's place in this Mural, it's how he perceives life, it's his art, not yours. Art will always be subjective. All this "overly wordy" nonsense is only opinion. For the sake of being wordy? The irony. Yes it is for the sake of being wordy, he's a emcee, they use words to paint pictures :heh:

So what that it is 9 minutes long, if he can keep your attention for the duration it doesn't feel too "lengthy." If its not your cup of tea it's just not, cool, but you guys don't even stop and say "hey, if more artists put this much effort into their work music as a whole would be different... I at least appreciate what he's trying to do."

You guys literally chastise him for channeling THAT SAME EFFORT music is lacking :patrice:

"He's spitting knowledge for the sake of spitting knowledge" is essentially what is being hated on because he didn't do it how you all wanted/used to it being fed to you.

This is exactly what i mean when i said that Elitists gravitate to Lupe's music.

thank you for proving my point.
 

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This is exactly what i mean when i said that Elitists gravitate to Lupe's music.

thank you for proving my point.
Elitist huh.
I like this tactic you're using. It's interesting.

You assume that I assume I'm better than people for my take on Lupe's music. Inaccurate but interesting.

Really it's just me saying it's not black & white, if you don't like it, cool, but this is a HipHop forum, just a bit shocked at the lack of appreciation for this spectrum of the rap game/culture.

You calling me a elitist for articulating open-mindedness is equal to Lupe being called pretentious for articulating through rap. Neither he nor I expressed superiority.

You are welcome breh.
 

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Nothing short of brilliance. I still believe he should have turned it down a notch on most tracks. The album would be more enjoyable, I'm talking "poor decisions" type lyricism. But Mural is classic nevertheless.
 

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just a bit shocked at the lack of appreciation for this spectrum of the rap game/culture.

I been trying to tell you cats since this album dropped this kind of rap has never been remotely close to popular at any point in the last 40ish years of hip-hop history.

So nah, it's not really shocking at all.

Fred.
 

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Elitist huh.
I like this tactic you're using. It's interesting.

You assume that I assume I'm better than people for my take on Lupe's music. Inaccurate but interesting.

Really it's just me saying it's not black & white, if you don't like it, cool, but this is a HipHop forum, just a bit shocked at the lack of appreciation for this spectrum of the rap game/culture.

You calling me a elitist for articulating open-mindedness is equal to Lupe being called pretentious for articulating through rap. Neither he nor I expressed superiority.

You are welcome breh.

:heh:

You're still proving my point.
 

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I been trying to tell you cats since this album dropped this kind of rap has never been remotely close to popular at any point in the last 40ish years of hip-hop history.

So nah, it's not really shocking at all.

Fred.
Define "this type of rap."

Ras Kass fans would like to have a word with you.
 

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:heh:

You're still proving my point.
I'll take "Elitist" as a compliment then. I feel highly about myself as should anyone of us.

But you are using the term incorrectly. I have not stated I am superior to anyone. So if articulating myself is what you say it is, so be it. Sounds like simple insecurity/deflection rather than speaking on the topic at hand. No constructive critisim, just critism. This "debate" has ran it's course.

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