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Listened to it last night and again this morning. Album is FIRE. I can appreciate Freedom Ain't Free and Lamborghini Angels more now within the context of the album. Lupe Fiasco, like Nas ironically, isn't really a "singles" artist per say. When he drops something natural to himself that just happens to cross over (Kick Push, Superstar) it's a great thing, but when he does something forced and label coerced (Show Goes On, Out Of My Head) then it just doesn't feel right. I'm one of the main ones who enjoyed Lasers outside of the songs that were obviously forced on him, F&L2 is an improvement in almost EVERY facet in comparison. This truly is his Stillmatic in the sense that its a statement album for those who should have never doubted him in the first place. When has Lupe EVER fallen off lyrically? When has he truly ever lost his way? Is this NOT the same man who had both Sunshine and American Terrorist on the album? The same man who had Superstar and Hi-Definition on the same album next to an entire semi-concept album about a young man falling victim to the street life? The same man who Hello/Goodbye next to Dumb It Down and The Die?

Now where exactly was the great and unforgivable hypocrisy of Lasers? An album that had Till I Get There mixed with Words I Never Said. Show Goes On mixed with All Black Everything. It's the natural progression of the artist, as the artist himself said that certain things were forced upon him by the label and never backed down from those claims even as he debuted at number 1 for the first time? It boggles my mind when I hear posters saying that Lasers was just so garbage that they had completely given up on him:leon: it doesn't make any sense, ESPECIALLY since he gave us an excellent mixtape before that album and another excellent mixtape following...


F&L2 isn't a return to the "old" Lupe. It's less a sequel and more a progression, in the same way that "Nasty Nas" will never again appear for an entire album, neither so will the 25 year old Lupe who was on the OG F&L. This is what the artist has grown to be and that's a damn great MC who chooses to use his platform to speak on issues that are relevant to not only Black culture, but the greater AMERICAN culture. This album should receive the utmost of praise for its lyrical prowess, message, and determination to actually SPEAK to the listener. Again for those who say that they are tired of preaching and heavy handed messages throughout the music let me ask you, who ELSE on a mainstream level is doing this? Are Hot 97 and your local radio stations blasting Freedom Ain't Free all day on the radio? Has video been number 1 on 106 & c00ns for the past two months? Has the album received nonstop promotion that I've been personally missing? Where ELSE are we being "preached too" in popular music? The only other artist who goes as deeply into such subjects for an albums length is Nas, that's pretty much it. J.Cole will give you a Lost Ones and Lights Please every so often, Kendrick Lamar will spit a fukk Your Ethnicity or Hiiipower, but Lupe Fiasco will shoot a video for bytch Bad and break it down for you EXACTLY how the popular themes and messages sent to today's youth have negatively effected our culture. How can we dismiss such songs as "overly preachy" when such songs are such a tiny minority of our genre? A genre that we are so quick to claim as an expression of "Black Culture and ingenuity"? THIS is what we should championing as the forefront representative of Hip Hop, not Chief Keef laughing over the murder of a fellow teenaged rapper. Not Kanye West proudly proclaiming that his bytch got famous over a home made porno video that her MOTHER leaked:wtf: .


Lupe Fiasco is an extremely gifted lyricist who has crafted an excellent album that can be placed alongside Life Is Good and R.A.P Music as the finest examples of Hip Hop for a more seasoned listener, and by more seasoned Im not implying older or even more mature, I'm saying that the themes expressed in these albums speak to the appreciation of Hip Hop as art through expression. Pain, Joy, grief, disappointment, longing, ambition, determination and great contemplation went into the writing, production, arraignment, sequencing, and concept of these albums. How in the world can somebody listen to this album and come away thinking that Lupe lacks passion for subject? Listen to Battle Scars, sure it's a love song, but the lyrics, delivery, and presentation of the entire song doesn't scream "generic club banger". Form Follows Function doesn't scream "lazy/uninspired". This is exactly what we've been waiting on from an artist of Lupe's caliber. This is a beautiful album brehs, a piece of work that was given very careful thought and should be appreciated as such

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Honest question, what is Lupe actually doing to show he "cares about the world around him and is more concerned with revolution and reform than ANY artist on this platform" outside of rapping about it on his albums? I have little to no knowledge of his philanthropic achievements.

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He's an artist...he makes music....the music has a message....etc....
 

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He's an artist...he makes music....the music has a message....etc....

and this definitely equates to him actually being out there building schools and directly building with needy folks and really about that life ala immortal technique? :comeon:

all this nicca does is bytch and complain and make corny superficial music that all you lil groupies eat up but that any real nicca can see through :manny:
 

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Listened to it last night and again this morning. Album is FIRE. I can appreciate Freedom Ain't Free and Lamborghini Angels more now within the context of the album. Lupe Fiasco, like Nas ironically, isn't really a "singles" artist per say. When he drops something natural to himself that just happens to cross over (Kick Push, Superstar) it's a great thing, but when he does something forced and label coerced (Show Goes On, Out Of My Head) then it just doesn't feel right. I'm one of the main ones who enjoyed Lasers outside of the songs that were obviously forced on him, F&L2 is an improvement in almost EVERY facet in comparison. This truly is his Stillmatic in the sense that its a statement album for those who should have never doubted him in the first place. When has Lupe EVER fallen off lyrically? When has he truly ever lost his way? Is this NOT the same man who had both Sunshine and American Terrorist on the album? The same man who had Superstar and Hi-Definition on the same album next to an entire semi-concept album about a young man falling victim to the street life? The same man who Hello/Goodbye next to Dumb It Down and The Die?

Now where exactly was the great and unforgivable hypocrisy of Lasers? An album that had Till I Get There mixed with Words I Never Said. Show Goes On mixed with All Black Everything. It's the natural progression of the artist, as the artist himself said that certain things were forced upon him by the label and never backed down from those claims even as he debuted at number 1 for the first time? It boggles my mind when I hear posters saying that Lasers was just so garbage that they had completely given up on him:leon: it doesn't make any sense, ESPECIALLY since he gave us an excellent mixtape before that album and another excellent mixtape following...


F&L2 isn't a return to the "old" Lupe. It's less a sequel and more a progression, in the same way that "Nasty Nas" will never again appear for an entire album, neither so will the 25 year old Lupe who was on the OG F&L. This is what the artist has grown to be and that's a damn great MC who chooses to use his platform to speak on issues that are relevant to not only Black culture, but the greater AMERICAN culture. This album should receive the utmost of praise for its lyrical prowess, message, and determination to actually SPEAK to the listener. Again for those who say that they are tired of preaching and heavy handed messages throughout the music let me ask you, who ELSE on a mainstream level is doing this? Are Hot 97 and your local radio stations blasting Freedom Ain't Free all day on the radio? Has video been number 1 on 106 & c00ns for the past two months? Has the album received nonstop promotion that I've been personally missing? Where ELSE are we being "preached too" in popular music? The only other artist who goes as deeply into such subjects for an albums length is Nas, that's pretty much it. J.Cole will give you a Lost Ones and Lights Please every so often, Kendrick Lamar will spit a fukk Your Ethnicity or Hiiipower, but Lupe Fiasco will shoot a video for bytch Bad and break it down for you EXACTLY how the popular themes and messages sent to today's youth have negatively effected our culture. How can we dismiss such songs as "overly preachy" when such songs are such a tiny minority of our genre? A genre that we are so quick to claim as an expression of "Black Culture and ingenuity"? THIS is what we should championing as the forefront representative of Hip Hop, not Chief Keef laughing over the murder of a fellow teenaged rapper. Not Kanye West proudly proclaiming that his bytch got famous over a home made porno video that her MOTHER leaked:wtf: .


Lupe Fiasco is an extremely gifted lyricist who has crafted an excellent album that can be placed alongside Life Is Good and R.A.P Music as the finest examples of Hip Hop for a more seasoned listener, and by more seasoned Im not implying older or even more mature, I'm saying that the themes expressed in these albums speak to the appreciation of Hip Hop as art through expression. Pain, Joy, grief, disappointment, longing, ambition, determination and great contemplation went into the writing, production, arraignment, sequencing, and concept of these albums. How in the world can somebody listen to this album and come away thinking that Lupe lacks passion for subject? Listen to Battle Scars, sure it's a love song, but the lyrics, delivery, and presentation of the entire song doesn't scream "generic club banger". Form Follows Function doesn't scream "lazy/uninspired". This is exactly what we've been waiting on from an artist of Lupe's caliber. This is a beautiful album brehs, a piece of work that was given very careful thought and should be appreciated as such

so....much....truth

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:rudy:

He's an artist...he makes music....the music has a message....etc....

So the answers nothing?

Like I said, if there is some philanthropic endeavors he's done, on some real shyt I would honestly like to know what they are. Sorry to say, but I don't really take a musicians message on their albums seriously when I have to (theoretically) buy their music to listen to said message other than going "well that's neat"


and this definitely equates to him actually being out there building schools and directly building with needy folks and really about that life ala immortal technique? :comeon:

yea...

I'm not even expecting him to build schools or anything like that.
 

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and this definitely equates to him actually being out there building schools and directly building with needy folks and really about that life ala immortal technique? :comeon:

all this nicca does is bytch and complain and make corny superficial music that all you lil groupies eat up but that any real nicca can see through :manny:

:rudy::usure: he has his own charity, he donates to various disadvantaged children in chicago, every year he feeds the needy during ramadan, he climbed mt kilimanjaro for the children in africa, he supports and funds occupy chicago. so im looking to where all he does is bytch and complain. LOL at build schools like hes a billionaire or some shyt fukking clown.

Some more shyt: http://www.blackcelebritygiving.com/2011/10/lupe-fiasco-and-the-lupe-fiasco-foundation/

http://www.lupefiascofoundation.org/home.html
 

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Listened to it last night and again this morning. Album is FIRE. I can appreciate Freedom Ain't Free and Lamborghini Angels more now within the context of the album. Lupe Fiasco, like Nas ironically, isn't really a "singles" artist per say. When he drops something natural to himself that just happens to cross over (Kick Push, Superstar) it's a great thing, but when he does something forced and label coerced (Show Goes On, Out Of My Head) then it just doesn't feel right. I'm one of the main ones who enjoyed Lasers outside of the songs that were obviously forced on him, F&L2 is an improvement in almost EVERY facet in comparison. This truly is his Stillmatic in the sense that its a statement album for those who should have never doubted him in the first place. When has Lupe EVER fallen off lyrically? When has he truly ever lost his way? Is this NOT the same man who had both Sunshine and American Terrorist on the album? The same man who had Superstar and Hi-Definition on the same album next to an entire semi-concept album about a young man falling victim to the street life? The same man who Hello/Goodbye next to Dumb It Down and The Die?

Now where exactly was the great and unforgivable hypocrisy of Lasers? An album that had Till I Get There mixed with Words I Never Said. Show Goes On mixed with All Black Everything. It's the natural progression of the artist, as the artist himself said that certain things were forced upon him by the label and never backed down from those claims even as he debuted at number 1 for the first time? It boggles my mind when I hear posters saying that Lasers was just so garbage that they had completely given up on him:leon: it doesn't make any sense, ESPECIALLY since he gave us an excellent mixtape before that album and another excellent mixtape following...


F&L2 isn't a return to the "old" Lupe. It's less a sequel and more a progression, in the same way that "Nasty Nas" will never again appear for an entire album, neither so will the 25 year old Lupe who was on the OG F&L. This is what the artist has grown to be and that's a damn great MC who chooses to use his platform to speak on issues that are relevant to not only Black culture, but the greater AMERICAN culture. This album should receive the utmost of praise for its lyrical prowess, message, and determination to actually SPEAK to the listener. Again for those who say that they are tired of preaching and heavy handed messages throughout the music let me ask you, who ELSE on a mainstream level is doing this? Are Hot 97 and your local radio stations blasting Freedom Ain't Free all day on the radio? Has video been number 1 on 106 & c00ns for the past two months? Has the album received nonstop promotion that I've been personally missing? Where ELSE are we being "preached too" in popular music? The only other artist who goes as deeply into such subjects for an albums length is Nas, that's pretty much it. J.Cole will give you a Lost Ones and Lights Please every so often, Kendrick Lamar will spit a fukk Your Ethnicity or Hiiipower, but Lupe Fiasco will shoot a video for bytch Bad and break it down for you EXACTLY how the popular themes and messages sent to today's youth have negatively effected our culture. How can we dismiss such songs as "overly preachy" when such songs are such a tiny minority of our genre? A genre that we are so quick to claim as an expression of "Black Culture and ingenuity"? THIS is what we should championing as the forefront representative of Hip Hop, not Chief Keef laughing over the murder of a fellow teenaged rapper. Not Kanye West proudly proclaiming that his bytch got famous over a home made porno video that her MOTHER leaked:wtf: .


Lupe Fiasco is an extremely gifted lyricist who has crafted an excellent album that can be placed alongside Life Is Good and R.A.P Music as the finest examples of Hip Hop for a more seasoned listener, and by more seasoned Im not implying older or even more mature, I'm saying that the themes expressed in these albums speak to the appreciation of Hip Hop as art through expression. Pain, Joy, grief, disappointment, longing, ambition, determination and great contemplation went into the writing, production, arraignment, sequencing, and concept of these albums. How in the world can somebody listen to this album and come away thinking that Lupe lacks passion for subject? Listen to Battle Scars, sure it's a love song, but the lyrics, delivery, and presentation of the entire song doesn't scream "generic club banger". Form Follows Function doesn't scream "lazy/uninspired". This is exactly what we've been waiting on from an artist of Lupe's caliber. This is a beautiful album brehs, a piece of work that was given very careful thought and should be appreciated as such

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I dont really give a fukk really about all that shyt, all I know is that this slaps.

Hood now is my shyt.
 

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:rudy::usure: he has his own charity, he donates to various disadvantaged children in chicago, every year he feeds the needy during ramadan, he climbed mt kilimanjaro for the children in africa, he supports and funds occupy chicago. so im looking to where all he does is bytch and complain. LOL at build schools like hes a billionaire or some shyt fukking clown.

Some more shyt: Lupe Fiasco and The Lupe Fiasco Foundation! - Black Celebrity Giving | Black Celebrity Giving

Welcome to The Lupe Fiasco Foundation

:yeshrug:

I'm certain Immortal Technique doesn't have half the fortune Lupe does
but he was out in there in the middle east building a school.
 

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Listened to it last night and again this morning. Album is FIRE. I can appreciate Freedom Ain't Free and Lamborghini Angels more now within the context of the album. Lupe Fiasco, like Nas ironically, isn't really a "singles" artist per say. When he drops something natural to himself that just happens to cross over (Kick Push, Superstar) it's a great thing, but when he does something forced and label coerced (Show Goes On, Out Of My Head) then it just doesn't feel right. I'm one of the main ones who enjoyed Lasers outside of the songs that were obviously forced on him, F&L2 is an improvement in almost EVERY facet in comparison. This truly is his Stillmatic in the sense that its a statement album for those who should have never doubted him in the first place. When has Lupe EVER fallen off lyrically? When has he truly ever lost his way? Is this NOT the same man who had both Sunshine and American Terrorist on the album? The same man who had Superstar and Hi-Definition on the same album next to an entire semi-concept album about a young man falling victim to the street life? The same man who Hello/Goodbye next to Dumb It Down and The Die?

Now where exactly was the great and unforgivable hypocrisy of Lasers? An album that had Till I Get There mixed with Words I Never Said. Show Goes On mixed with All Black Everything. It's the natural progression of the artist, as the artist himself said that certain things were forced upon him by the label and never backed down from those claims even as he debuted at number 1 for the first time? It boggles my mind when I hear posters saying that Lasers was just so garbage that they had completely given up on him:leon: it doesn't make any sense, ESPECIALLY since he gave us an excellent mixtape before that album and another excellent mixtape following...


F&L2 isn't a return to the "old" Lupe. It's less a sequel and more a progression, in the same way that "Nasty Nas" will never again appear for an entire album, neither so will the 25 year old Lupe who was on the OG F&L. This is what the artist has grown to be and that's a damn great MC who chooses to use his platform to speak on issues that are relevant to not only Black culture, but the greater AMERICAN culture. This album should receive the utmost of praise for its lyrical prowess, message, and determination to actually SPEAK to the listener. Again for those who say that they are tired of preaching and heavy handed messages throughout the music let me ask you, who ELSE on a mainstream level is doing this? Are Hot 97 and your local radio stations blasting Freedom Ain't Free all day on the radio? Has video been number 1 on 106 & c00ns for the past two months? Has the album received nonstop promotion that I've been personally missing? Where ELSE are we being "preached too" in popular music? The only other artist who goes as deeply into such subjects for an albums length is Nas, that's pretty much it. J.Cole will give you a Lost Ones and Lights Please every so often, Kendrick Lamar will spit a fukk Your Ethnicity or Hiiipower, but Lupe Fiasco will shoot a video for bytch Bad and break it down for you EXACTLY how the popular themes and messages sent to today's youth have negatively effected our culture. How can we dismiss such songs as "overly preachy" when such songs are such a tiny minority of our genre? A genre that we are so quick to claim as an expression of "Black Culture and ingenuity"? THIS is what we should championing as the forefront representative of Hip Hop, not Chief Keef laughing over the murder of a fellow teenaged rapper. Not Kanye West proudly proclaiming that his bytch got famous over a home made porno video that her MOTHER leaked:wtf: .


Lupe Fiasco is an extremely gifted lyricist who has crafted an excellent album that can be placed alongside Life Is Good and R.A.P Music as the finest examples of Hip Hop for a more seasoned listener, and by more seasoned Im not implying older or even more mature, I'm saying that the themes expressed in these albums speak to the appreciation of Hip Hop as art through expression. Pain, Joy, grief, disappointment, longing, ambition, determination and great contemplation went into the writing, production, arraignment, sequencing, and concept of these albums. How in the world can somebody listen to this album and come away thinking that Lupe lacks passion for subject? Listen to Battle Scars, sure it's a love song, but the lyrics, delivery, and presentation of the entire song doesn't scream "generic club banger". Form Follows Function doesn't scream "lazy/uninspired". This is exactly what we've been waiting on from an artist of Lupe's caliber. This is a beautiful album brehs, a piece of work that was given very careful thought and should be appreciated as such


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Listened to it last night and again this morning. Album is FIRE. I can appreciate Freedom Ain't Free and Lamborghini Angels more now within the context of the album. Lupe Fiasco, like Nas ironically, isn't really a "singles" artist per say. When he drops something natural to himself that just happens to cross over (Kick Push, Superstar) it's a great thing, but when he does something forced and label coerced (Show Goes On, Out Of My Head) then it just doesn't feel right. I'm one of the main ones who enjoyed Lasers outside of the songs that were obviously forced on him, F&L2 is an improvement in almost EVERY facet in comparison. This truly is his Stillmatic in the sense that its a statement album for those who should have never doubted him in the first place. When has Lupe EVER fallen off lyrically? When has he truly ever lost his way? Is this NOT the same man who had both Sunshine and American Terrorist on the album? The same man who had Superstar and Hi-Definition on the same album next to an entire semi-concept album about a young man falling victim to the street life? The same man who Hello/Goodbye next to Dumb It Down and The Die?

Now where exactly was the great and unforgivable hypocrisy of Lasers? An album that had Till I Get There mixed with Words I Never Said. Show Goes On mixed with All Black Everything. It's the natural progression of the artist, as the artist himself said that certain things were forced upon him by the label and never backed down from those claims even as he debuted at number 1 for the first time? It boggles my mind when I hear posters saying that Lasers was just so garbage that they had completely given up on him:leon: it doesn't make any sense, ESPECIALLY since he gave us an excellent mixtape before that album and another excellent mixtape following...


F&L2 isn't a return to the "old" Lupe. It's less a sequel and more a progression, in the same way that "Nasty Nas" will never again appear for an entire album, neither so will the 25 year old Lupe who was on the OG F&L. This is what the artist has grown to be and that's a damn great MC who chooses to use his platform to speak on issues that are relevant to not only Black culture, but the greater AMERICAN culture. This album should receive the utmost of praise for its lyrical prowess, message, and determination to actually SPEAK to the listener. Again for those who say that they are tired of preaching and heavy handed messages throughout the music let me ask you, who ELSE on a mainstream level is doing this? Are Hot 97 and your local radio stations blasting Freedom Ain't Free all day on the radio? Has video been number 1 on 106 & c00ns for the past two months? Has the album received nonstop promotion that I've been personally missing? Where ELSE are we being "preached too" in popular music? The only other artist who goes as deeply into such subjects for an albums length is Nas, that's pretty much it. J.Cole will give you a Lost Ones and Lights Please every so often, Kendrick Lamar will spit a fukk Your Ethnicity or Hiiipower, but Lupe Fiasco will shoot a video for bytch Bad and break it down for you EXACTLY how the popular themes and messages sent to today's youth have negatively effected our culture. How can we dismiss such songs as "overly preachy" when such songs are such a tiny minority of our genre? A genre that we are so quick to claim as an expression of "Black Culture and ingenuity"? THIS is what we should championing as the forefront representative of Hip Hop, not Chief Keef laughing over the murder of a fellow teenaged rapper. Not Kanye West proudly proclaiming that his bytch got famous over a home made porno video that her MOTHER leaked:wtf: .


Lupe Fiasco is an extremely gifted lyricist who has crafted an excellent album that can be placed alongside Life Is Good and R.A.P Music as the finest examples of Hip Hop for a more seasoned listener, and by more seasoned Im not implying older or even more mature, I'm saying that the themes expressed in these albums speak to the appreciation of Hip Hop as art through expression. Pain, Joy, grief, disappointment, longing, ambition, determination and great contemplation went into the writing, production, arraignment, sequencing, and concept of these albums. How in the world can somebody listen to this album and come away thinking that Lupe lacks passion for subject? Listen to Battle Scars, sure it's a love song, but the lyrics, delivery, and presentation of the entire song doesn't scream "generic club banger". Form Follows Function doesn't scream "lazy/uninspired". This is exactly what we've been waiting on from an artist of Lupe's caliber. This is a beautiful album brehs, a piece of work that was given very careful thought and should be appreciated as such
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But I must say, the album would have been better off being called The Great American Rap Album. Lu established what the concept behind the F&L title was, and I just feel there isn't enough Food this go around to balance the Liquor. I won't disagree with anyone who says that the state of the world doesn't leave any room for Lu to talk about that much positive. Trust me, this is a beautiful album, but there are definitely flaws.

My problem with the love songs isn't that they're love songs, it's just the execution and finished products. Lupe just lacks the energy and conviction on these songs that he had on his first two albums. When an MC that isn't proficient in doing those type of songs does them, they have to be eecuted the right way. I brought up the resemblance to Ghostdini because if you listen to Heart Donor it sounds exactly like:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6e7Cv-avic]Ghostface Killah - Do Over [Ghostdini] - YouTube[/ame]

Except with a horrible chorus and just a lack of conviction from Lu. How Dare You and Battle Scars are better (I'm warming up to How Dare You especially) but the sequence of songs just feels like one of those albums where the MC just tacks on the requisite couple songs for the women. After listening to tracks with such deep and heavy content, the transition to these three tracks just seems forced. Those are the only significant flaws I noticed on what I consider the album of the year. Lyrically, Lupe has reestablished himself as being the don dada of this rap shyt.

And as far as Lasers...













































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