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Yeah but everyone knows that. That doesnt make Kobe's ATROCIOUS return game any more "average" like you just claimed, and it only makes all the "the GAWD returns!!", "OMG its against Toronto, hes gonna score 82!" comments look even dumber. If you noticed, thats why this thread was created. Kobe stans insisting he's different and will come out the gate killing shyt, only for him to lay an egg and the groupies to then fall back. You have to know that that shyt is gonna get clowned.
The worst part about Kobe haters is that they take obvious (I mean clearly obvious) jokes about Kobe and take them seriously just to get mad at Kobe and his fans. Just like the whole "gawd" talk. I don't even say it, but when people make those references they are clearly just fukking with people, and yet the haters get heated. It's like y'all either want to take everything as it is just to spew your anti-Kobe rants, or you're just not that bright.
 

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Oh so Parker winning Finals MVP over Duncan proves he was the Spurs' best player during that run, but Shaq winning in 02 doesnt matter and Kobe was better just because?

:heh: this type of shyt is typical of you guys. No credibility.

Are we honestly gonna sit here and say the Lakers finals competition during the 3peat was as good as their playoff opponents? :dahell:

This is one of the main areas where shyt is skewed. Shaq and Kobe were great players during that run and learned to play well off of each other. Without Shaq, Kobe would of still been a great player but probably not as accomplished team-wise by that point. Without Kobe, Shaq would've still been a force, but without that elite 2 guard he wouldn't of seen those Finals MVPs.

The playoffs was where the Lakers were truly tested, and both Kobe and Shaq imposed their will on teams. Kobe was our closer even back then, Shaq monopolized the paint, and it got us through a difficult playoff road to play a cushy East team. Had the 3peat Lakers never existed the Spurs and Duncan might've had one of the great runs of all time real shyt that's how futile it was on the side of the East.
 

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Are we honestly gonna sit here and say the Lakers finals competition during the 3peat was as good as their playoff opponents? :dahell:

This is one of the main areas where shyt is skewed. Shaq and Kobe were great players during that run and learned to play well off of each other. Without Shaq, Kobe would of still been a great player but probably not as accomplished team-wise by that point. Without Kobe, Shaq would've still been a force, but without that elite 2 guard he wouldn't of seen those Finals MVPs.

2001-2004 Shaq could not be stopped. Dude still scored when triple teamed and had opposing players draped over him. I don't think he needed an elite guard. He just needed to be fed the ball PERIOD.
 

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The worst part about Kobe haters is that they take obvious (I mean clearly obvious) jokes about Kobe and take them seriously just to get mad at Kobe and his fans. Just like the whole "gawd" talk. I don't even say it, but when people make those references they are clearly just fukking with people, and yet the haters get heated. It's like y'all either want to take everything as it is just to spew your anti-Kobe rants, or you're just not that bright.
Nah, already addressed this in my last post. Learn to read.
 

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2001-2004 Shaq could not be stopped. Dude still scored when triple teamed and had opposing players draped over him. I don't think he needed an elite guard. He just needed to be fed the ball PERIOD.

...and when he got in foul trouble? What about hack a shaq? At the very least he needed some kind of closer to seal it cuz I'd have a hard time depending on Shaq to make free throws all the time or keeping his wind deep into the 4th and possible overtime. No knock on Shaq, from 2000 to like 2005 he wasn't to be fukked with, but with an elite guard it made Shaq's dominance all the more effective since he could rest and let someone continue the scoring onslaught.
 

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...and when he got in foul trouble? What about hack a shaq? At the very least he needed some kind of closer to seal it cuz I'd have a hard time depending on Shaq to make free throws all the time or keeping his wind deep into the 4th and possible overtime. No knock on Shaq, from 2000 to like 2005 he wasn't to be fukked with, but with an elite guard it made Shaq's dominance all the more effective since he could rest and let someone continue the scoring onslaught.

Shaq was never an active defender, but his size and athleticism closed down the paint PERIOD. Nobody could get in the lane against the lakers. THat was the real reason they won 3 straight.

Check the stats from back then. The lakers dominated points in the paint in about every fukking game.
 

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Shaq was never an active defender, but his size and athleticism closed down the paint PERIOD. Nobody could get in the lane against the lakers. THat was the real reason they won 3 straight.

Check the stats from back then. The lakers dominated points in the paint in about every fukking game.

Of course, breh, Shaq in the paint back then was fukkin comedy. That was the least courteous nikka on the low block of all times. With that said, Shaq was a really big center in those prime years so rest was important for him so he wouldn't get injured or too gassed. I would say another reason why we won 3 straight was because we had another viable scoring threat to keep the lead or build upon it and great role players that did their jobs. If you just put Shaq by himself with no elite guard I highly doubt it works out that way.
 

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Oh so Parker winning Finals MVP over Duncan proves he was the Spurs' best player during that run, but Shaq winning in 02 doesnt matter and Kobe was better just because?

:heh: this type of shyt is typical of you guys. No credibility.
I meant 2003:umad:
 

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...and when he got in foul trouble? What about hack a shaq? At the very least he needed some kind of closer to seal it cuz I'd have a hard time depending on Shaq to make free throws all the time or keeping his wind deep into the 4th and possible overtime. No knock on Shaq, from 2000 to like 2005 he wasn't to be fukked with, but with an elite guard it made Shaq's dominance all the more effective since he could rest and let someone continue the scoring onslaught.
Whoever played with someone that dominant would benefit cause the game plan would be defending Shaq. That means his team mates get better looks and not as effective defense cause the opposing team's gameplan isn't even focused on them. Not a knock on Kobe just a benefit from an early 000's Shaq.
 

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I predicted Tobe was only going score 8...I was only off by 1 point:banderas:
 

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Whoever played with someone that dominant would benefit cause the game plan would be defending Shaq. That means his team mates get better looks and not as effective defense cause the opposing team's gameplan isn't even focused on them. Not a knock on Kobe just a benefit from an early 000's Shaq.

You weren't even old enough to understand basketball back then......what are you talking about?:snoop:

The Blazers had Ruben "Kobe stopper" Patterson, The Kings acquired Doug Christie for Kobe, and the Spurs acquired Derek Anderson and Bruce Bowen specifically for Kobe:ufdup:
 

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You weren't even old enough to understand basketball back then......what are you talking about?:snoop:
You know how old I am? :dead:

And last time I checked basketball footage doesn't change over time.

Stop catching feelings cause I said Kobe benefited from Shaq. I could have said he carried Kobe but I didn't want you to start crying in my alerts-- oh wait! I spoke too soon.
 

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Whoever played with someone that dominant would benefit cause the game plan would be defending Shaq. That means his team mates get better looks and not as effective defense cause the opposing team's gameplan isn't even focused on them. Not a knock on Kobe just a benefit from an early 000's Shaq.

Breh, take it from someone who actually watched Shaq in those days. Dude would get winded, his dominance isn't overstated but the endurance is. Lets not act like Shaq wasn't putting on all types of weight and not conditioning himself as well as he should. Plus too much Shaq on the floor could lead to injury which would fukk the team over.

You could say the first few seasons that kinda playing relationship existed between Kobe and Shaq but once Kobe came into his own he was a threat to score with our without Shaq which was the difference in those Lakers teams taking L's in the playoffs and winning 3 straight. I know you don't mean to knock Kobe but unintentionally you did. I can't say it enough, those two needed one another for that level of success.
 
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