Lyft and Uber to leave Minneapolis after council forces them to pay drivers more

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Lyft and Uber say they will leave Minneapolis after city council forces them to pay drivers more​

Associated Press
Thu, March 14, 2024 at 6:33 PM

Ride-hailing drivers celebrate in Minneapolis, Thursday, March 7, 2024, immediately after Minneapolis City Council members voted to pass a measure that would increase wages to drivers of ride-hailing companies, including Uber and Lyft, to an equivalent of more than $15 an hour. Opponents say this may increase costs to customers and increase fears that Uber and Lyft will follow through on their threats to leave the area altogether. (AP Photo/Trisha Ahmed)

Ride-hailing drivers sit in the audience of the city council chambers in Minneapolis, Thursday, March 7, 2024, as council members discuss a measure that would increase wages to drivers of ride-hailing companies, including Uber and Lyft, to an equivalent of more than $15 an hour. Opponents say this may increase costs to customers and increase fears that Uber and Lyft will follow through on their threats to leave the area altogether. (AP Photo/Trisha Ahmed)

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Ride Hailing Drivers Minneapolis​

Ride-hailing drivers celebrate in Minneapolis, Thursday, March 7, 2024, immediately after Minneapolis City Council members voted to pass a measure that would increase wages to drivers of ride-hailing companies, including Uber and Lyft, to an equivalent of more than $15 an hour.

Opponents say this may increase costs to customers and increase fears that Uber and Lyft will follow through on their threats to leave the area altogether. (AP Photo/Trisha Ahmed) ASSOCIATED PRESS MINNEAPOLIS (AP) — Lyft and Uber said they will cease operations in Minneapolis after the city's council voted Thursday to override a mayoral veto and require that ride-hailing services increase driver wages to the equivalent of the local minimum wage of $15.57 an hour.

Lyft called the ordinance “deeply flawed,” saying in a statement that it supports a minimum earning standard for drivers but not the one passed by the council.
“It should be done in an honest way that keeps the service affordable for riders,” Lyft said.
“This ordinance makes our operations unsustainable, and as a result, we are shutting down operations in Minneapolis when the law takes effect on May 1.”


Uber did not immediately respond to a request for comment, but news outlets reported that it issued a similar statement saying it would also stop service that day. Both companies promised to push for statewide legislation that would counter the Minneapolis ordinance, and state House Republicans proposed a bill Thursday that would preempt local regulations of ride-hailing services.

The City Council first passed the measure last week in a 9-4 vote despite Mayor Jacob Frey’s promise to veto it. The measure requires ride-hailing companies to pay drivers at least $1.40 per mile and $0.51 per minute for the time spent transporting a rider — or $5 per ride, whichever is greater — excluding tips. In the event of a multi-city trip, that only applies to the portion that takes place within Minneapolis. Critics of the bill say costs will likely spike for everyone, including people with low incomes and people with disabilities who rely on ride-hailing services. Supporters say the services have relied on drivers who are often people of color and immigrants for cheap labor. “Drivers are human beings with families, and they deserve dignified minimum wages like all other workers,” Jamal Osman, a council member who co-authored the policy, said in a statement. “Today’s vote showed Uber, Lyft, and the Mayor that the Minneapolis City Council will not allow the East African community, or any community, to be exploited for cheap labor,” Osman added. “The Council chooses workers over corporate greed.” Democratic Gov Tim Walz, who vetoed a bill last year that would have boosted pay for Uber and Lyft drivers, told The Associated Press on Wednesday that he was concerned because so many depend on those services, including disabled people. He said he believed the companies would pull the plug, “and there’s nothing to fill that gap.” Walz added that he hopes the Legislature will seek a compromise that both includes fair pay for drivers and dissuades the companies from leaving. Seattle and New York City have passed similar policies in recent years that increase wages for ride-hailing drivers, and Uber and Lyft still operate in those cities.
 

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Evil companies.

If you can't afford salaries, you can't afford to be in business.

In the corporate echelons it's called Capitalism. Down here on the street we call it Greed.

Mind you these companies are listed and are many people's only mode of transport so there's no shortage of profit.
So there's an opening for anyone willing to pay 15.50 per hr.
 

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Evil companies.

If you can't afford salaries, you can't afford to be in business.
yeah, thats not the takeaway here :dead:

first of all, dont uber and lyft lose a ton of money? second of all, do you think any of the drivers or riders are happy that the companies are leaving? this is not a win for anyone

 

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yeah, thats not the takeaway here :dead:

first of all, dont uber and lyft lose a ton of money? second of all, do you think any of the drivers or riders are happy that the companies are leaving? this is not a win for anyone
Is the alternative to let the companies fukk up well-thought out transportation services that already exist? Yes, the takeaway is they should not exist. Unfortunately we prop up zombie business models (fast food being the biggest one)that underpay their workers as a central means of existing.

The drives can be unhappy about them leaving, but if they were bothered enough to try to get compensated well in the first place, they had to know this is how it would go. Unfortunately fighting greedy ass companies means losing their services sometimes.
 

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Is the alternative to let the companies fukk up well-thought out transportation services that already exist? Yes, the takeaway is they should not exist. Unfortunately we prop up zombie business models (fast food being the biggest one)that underpay their workers as a central means of existing.

The drives can be unhappy about them leaving, but if they were bothered enough to try to get compensated well in the first place, they had to know this is how it would go. Unfortunately fighting greedy ass companies means losing their services sometimes.
so you're just gonna ignore the fact that uber and lyft arent profitable


 

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Is the alternative to let the companies fukk up well-thought out transportation services that already exist? Yes, the takeaway is they should not exist. Unfortunately we prop up zombie business models (fast food being the biggest one)that underpay their workers as a central means of existing.

The drives can be unhappy about them leaving, but if they were bothered enough to try to get compensated well in the first place, they had to know this is how it would go. Unfortunately fighting greedy ass companies means losing their services sometimes.
:sas2:

Tell them
 

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so you're just gonna ignore the fact that uber and lyft arent profitable


Which means they shouldn't exist :russ::russ::russ:Bro what are you even arguing?

Right in the article you posted

While the future of Uber is unclear at the moment, it does not look promising due to the strong competition it shares with Lyft and other modes of public transportation. Not only does Uber offer the same service as other related ride sharing companies, however similar competitive prices continue to sink their profit margins. Furthermore, Uber’s business model lies on the foundation that the use of cars from consumers will reduce to such an extreme extent that the demand for cheap fares will boom. Moreover, Uber will remain unprofitable until they can successfully limit the wide variety of options consumers have in terms of travel, or they can somehow severely differentiate their respective services in order to compensate for their high operating and marketing costs.
They literally exist to choke out busses, trains, taxis, and other more well thought out methods of transportation juuuuuuuust long enough to hike prices. They want to Walmart the transportation industry and its not happening. It's a zombie, Uber though it covers lyft as well, that survives on growing as big as possible with cheap loans and investor money hoping to outpace its own collapse. They should not exist as they are not a good business model. It's one thing to not be profitable and stagnate. They actively burn cash hoping to eventually crush competition.
 
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so you're just gonna ignore the fact that uber and lyft arent profitable


So reading that article, ALL of the assumptions made by Uber have proven to be false, so their solution is to be even more aggressive with what drivers are paid? All the while they have customers who are addicted to lower prices.
Why should a model that codes in the assumption drivers can be paid peanuts be allowed to survive?
 

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The crazy plot twist is the new immigrants in cities like Chicago and New York will gladly take that pay rate. One person complaining opens the door for others who will gladly take that opportunity. Then you have the rhetoric and babble talking about "they are taking our jobs".

These corporations know this and always have these new driver promotions campaigns setup when many drivers quit. It's a revolving door in corporate America.
 
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