Lyor gon' Lyor

[ISO]

Thug buzz is crazy. Migos just got new life when offset came home.

If u got the best dope out, (crazy buzz)
U get rid of that shyt no? (Drop projects)

Thug buzz ain't that crazy...

Migos is , before Offset was locked up.

 

[Craig Mack]

Lyor said "lil nikka" breh?

@ 9:20 he said "I only want the lil guy."

 

[Still FloW]

smh... culture vulture

 

[TooLazyToMakeUp1]

Lyor must be laughing now that he doesn't have to deal with headstrong guys on the level of like Dame, Irv, Dee and Waah anymore.

Remember Bleek trolling Dame with the jacket situation



The look on Dame's face in the cut

He saw exactly what they were doing and said something. I can't imagine many "bosses" speaking up like that today

 

[Charlie]

that's what YOU say... numbers (the only buzz a label cares about) would say you're dead wrong

again... a label ain't going off bought views and hood hot and what bumps in the car and twitter followers and page views on articles


they go off charts, sales, radio spings, how big a paying crowd you can bring.... things that equal money

i can offer up a free concert and fill it with 250k people.... wouldn't matter shyt to a company like having a #9 hit and 30k people who are paying $50 to get in



you give me some hard evidence that thug has a huge buzz... and by buzz i mean paying customers


that's all the labels care about

Lol thug buzzin. He aint Kanye. But bol buzzin.
Thug sell out shows

Got mad youtube views even tho u say thats not a viable metric
Big social media presence even tho im sure you dont think thats viable either
Has had several songs chart

If devils advocate, dude off the coli had all that going for him he would be buzzin lol.

Not tryna negate nothing you said. But Even Lyor know he buzzin in the colloquial sense. Again not negating nothing you said your right

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

Lol thug buzzin. He aint Kanye. But bol buzzin.
Thug sell out shows

Got mad youtube views even tho u say thats not a viable metric
Big social media presence even tho im sure you dont think thats viable either
Has had several songs chart

If devils advocate, dude off the coli had all that going for him he would be buzzin lol.

Not tryna negate nothing you said. But Even Lyor know he buzzin in the colloquial sense. Again not negating nothing you said your right

if that were true... wouldn't lyor be DYING to put him out


wouldn't any label want to make money




see that's what i'm saying... yes he's doing what you're saying... but when it comes to a person/company putting up MILLIONS and needing that back.... they are NOT going to chance it on a few shows and a youtube


if I was doing that... well fukk yea.... they'd be ready to sign... but why?? cause I did all that with no label help.. so the idea would be, if we give him millions, he could double that with the extra help


but when you've already been "given" millions (prices of everything combined into years of promo and a release) and then you sell 16k... well now I see that all that "buzz" didn't amount to shyt... and definitely didn't get my money back



lets not forget, thug would still owe from album 1... then get more money.... then that second album would need to make back all the lost money from the first, and make back all the new money i gave again.... with no track record of even doing 20k.... it's a wrap breh

they think on a global scale... and on numbers... which i feel killed the ART of it... but any rapper will tell you.. you mess around and lose them money... you finished... you seeing it happen before your eyes and yet you want it to be another way... but it's not that way... it's this way

 

[Charlie]

if that were true... wouldn't lyor be DYING to put him out


wouldn't any label want to make money




see that's what i'm saying... yes he's doing what you're saying... but when it comes to a person/company putting up MILLIONS and needing that back.... they are NOT going to chance it on a few shows and a youtube


if I was doing that... well fukk yea.... they'd be ready to sign... but why?? cause I did all that with no label help.. so the idea would be, if we give him millions, he could double that with the extra help


but when you've already been "given" millions (prices of everything combined into years of promo and a release) and then you sell 16k... well now I see that all that "buzz" didn't amount to shyt... and definitely didn't get my money back



lets not forget, thug would still owe from album 1... then get more money.... then that second album would need to make back all the lost money from the first, and make back all the new money i gave again.... with no track record of even doing 20k.... it's a wrap breh

they think on a global scale... and on numbers... which i feel killed the ART of it... but any rapper will tell you.. you mess around and lose them money... you finished... you seeing it happen before your eyes and yet you want it to be another way... but it's not that way... it's this way

Lol I don't want it one way or the other just asking questions and seeking reasoning. Obviously you have superior knowledge and acumen in these matters thanks for sharing.

 

[KravenMorehead™]

The rape over

 

[Deutsche Bank]

"Why they gotta deal wit deez joos?!?"

Tell you what, who runs the banks you deposit your checks into? Who owns your/your landlords' mortgages? Jews are the money behind the dream. With that money comes relationships and connections and chivatos with they eyes out every time wires cross. Rap labels are just loan sharks for dumb tap dancing nikkas.

Look at all the fools we was fans of and how they either broke as fukk, or forty-something tap dancing on stage in skinny jeans and backwards fukking hats when they posed to be executives and bosses. Talking some "tour dates".

You think Busta Rhymes's Red Stripe and HGH gut having ass still wanna be yelling and screaming on a grammar school-sized stage with Papoose in some bullshyt ass venue? Why the fukk you think Magna Carta Holy Grail was so horrible, cause that nikka Jigger tired and wanna sit down somewhere, but the sharks be on your ass.

Believe them bullshyt Forbes and Fortune articles if you want to, them Jews got your dogs hemmed up in the studio like Ike and Tina singing "Nutbush City". You seen that poor illiterate negro waiting for Coach K to push his button so he could talk, looking down at all them gold overlay and moissanite necklaces trying to concoct a lie in his country-ass head.

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

Lol I don't want it one way or the other just asking questions and seeking reasoning. Obviously you have superior knowledge and acumen in these matters thanks for sharing.

i'm just fukking with you breh... it's all love

 

[Unknown Poster]

Are you serious he really said that?

TBH i really wouldn't be surprised if he did.

EDIT: Seen the post above with the rule interview.

 

[Nature's Fury]

breh the iron ain't hot... at all

people want you to believe nobody is selling... that's dead wrong... you got nikkas selling all over the place... doing at least 60k first week... a few nikkas doing 80-100k... maybe 6-10 nikkas doing 150-300k.. and 1-2 doing 500k


doing 12k... 30k.... you finished... it's over

you might think "they not really being promoted".... that ain't the point... everything is under the label for cost... i give you an advance, i'm (lyor) paying that... you need a billboard, i'm paying that... you get a per diem (daily money to eat and look fresh)... you need to fly to this place... you need an interview over here.. you need to record.. you need to mix, master, engineer.. you need to get a tour set up... tour dj... magazine ads... tv ads... i need to grease some palms to get you play... i gotta actually print up these cds.. i gotta pay these producers, writers, photographers.... etc etc etc

and you only making me 30k in sales?? and that's not 100% profit to the label... nah i gotta pay the distributor and everyone else involved making a dollar.... and now you bricked you need ANOTHER 250k? and that's low low low balling it... you already blew my money

now what i'm gonna do is let you blow YOUR money... see how it feels... if you can drum up another hit, i'll give you more... but you ain't going no fukking where owing me money... and you damn sure ain't gonna be giving away shyt for free when you owe me money



lets do a jayz type thing


i give you $100 in weed... tell you bring me back 150 and keep the rest.... you bring me back 30 dollars

you think i'm gonna give you more weed? you think i'm not gonna fukk you up when you owe me 120 dollars but you outside giving away free weed a week later?

you can grow your own weed, and when you make the money, i'll take it and give you some more of my weed.... but until that happens... i better not catch you with weed or money that is owed to me

that's what the 360 deal is for...Lyor cakin off of them touring and everything...point is, he want to maximize and try to get them scolding hot like Future before tryin to release their official albums that counts towards their contracts and while he doin that, he's missing the wave that they do have and they end up gettin colder...Thugger shoulda had something out official wayyyy before Barter 6 and Migos shoulda had something out around the time Versace was poppin off...even that Fetty Wap album came a lil late...

 

[Formerly known as...]

Remember Bleek trolling Dame with the jacket situation



The look on Dame's face in the cut

He saw exactly what they were doing and said something. I can't imagine many "bosses" speaking up like that today

Dame brehs. He broke Kevin Liles in half right there. Dame wasn't as stupid as they wanted him to be.

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

that's what the 360 deal is for...Lyor cakin off of them touring and everything...point is, he want to maximize and try to get them scolding hot like Future before tryin to release their official albums that counts towards their contracts and while he doin that, he's missing the wave that they do have and they end up gettin colder...Thugger shoulda had something out official wayyyy before Barter 6 and Migos shoulda had something out around the time Versace was poppin off...even that Fetty Wap album came a lil late...

getting 10% of 30k a night is not caking breh

again... do you realize how much money a typical album release cost? he already paid that.. he already lost that when they didn't sell... fukk future... they not doing the game's numbers... they not doing rick ross numbers... they not even doing logic, travis scott, jay rock, pusha t numbers

this is lyor, def jam, cohen..... he don't give a fukk about making 10k off your show... 1k if you doing a club... if he did, either one of them would be on a promo cycle right now... you gotta promo songs and material and the new album before you even start getting it to stores.... i'm not even sure they have a album name and title in the stash right now

i'm not wishing bad on them... i'm spitting facts from what i know that's going on... what's been going on... how it will continue to go out

there's 50 states in america... just cause you popping on the net and in 15 states, has no bearing on the other 35 and the entire globe... even a shytty release will cost a label 750k.. again a low ball



so you are right in that... they aren't completely shelved... he'll let them do their little shows and try and get their buzz up... but if it don't reach a fever pitch... where metrics can be measured... you will NEVER see an official album again


i wish it wasn't this way... wish we could get 3-4 albums and nikkas didn't have to worry about sales, but art... but blowing 3 milly on videos in the 90s/00s ruined all that shyt... now its simply cold hard numbers and fukk anything else... straight investment banking

 

[3rdWorld]

Liar Coin another money grubbing Jew in Black shyt.