Lyor gon' Lyor

[SLCpremium]

Is 300 an actual record label or just a management label??

 

[Bobby Reds]

This guy OFFset is an absolute FOOL.

This guy is a grown man, yet he has to keep looking over to speak....

Doesnt even know in what way he is tied too that 300 label...

All those stupid tatts in his face...

You can tell by the tone of Vlad's voice that he thinks these dudes are broke clowns

Lyor came up dealing with the like of Suge Knight and Irv Gotti's peoples.... so he must look at a fake thug guy like OFFset with zero respect and complete disgust tbh

 

[Billy Ocean]

lyor played a part in a lot of classic music coming out

if he was blacc y'all would be on his dicc

dumbass coli strikes again

Tall Israeli caping for Hip Hop's most prominent tall Israeli. Go figure.

Stop touching them boys.

 

[onlylno]

THIS!!!!

You really trying to act like jay was not going to pull a coup of rocafella with damw till defjam stepped in like hold up wait a cot damn fukk'n minute.
nikkaz trying to change history.
Jay double crossed lyor and dame and originally was going to go with lyor.
Before defjam, stepped in.


Art Barr

Somebody please put me on to the business and politics of the industry.

Articles, books, videos, posts on forums, anything.

I'm not plugged into like ya'll, But reading threads like these are about the most interesting thing the booth has to offer.

 

[Art Barr]

Somebody please put me on to the business and politics of the industry.

Articles, books, videos, posts on forums, anything.

I'm not plugged into like ya'll, But reading threads like these are about the most interesting thing the booth has to offer.

You need the silver book and the rest is all real time experience from me.

Art Barr

 

[Vilhena]

Idk how nikkas keep signing with these slime ball Jews who only exist to jam nikkas careers up and leech off their creativity.

There's no where really to go. All labels are run by the same. Whether its a nikka frontin it or not, you are still getting jerked.

 

[fukkyalifestyle]

smacc who is this nikka

aren't you a white guy from england? why you keep saying the n word?

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

So shelf him in order to create a bigger buzz and eventually drop the project?

no shelf them to save your damn money and say fukk them... unless of course they become big, then you still own them


it's like this


company LENDS you 1 milly (first problem artists have, forgetting this is a loan and not a paycheck)

company DEMANDS you at least give back the milly later... but really wants you to give back 1.5 or more (return on investment)

artist sales are shytty... artist makes back 100k, 250k, 500k back... still short


well now the company has two options... if they truly believe in you and like you, well here's another 500k or even here's another 1 mil... try again homie... we love the music... you're a great artist... you bring us money other ways... plus you on tv, features, clubs, you blowing up breh... we got you (but you still owe that money back)



orrrrrrrr... company never saw you as more than a check... and you lost our fukking money... and we have no belief if we give you more that you'll make any money.. your buzz window has closed...

well now we not letting you put out no product... we not wasting that money no more... and to take it a step farther, we own you and your music... so if you think you gonna give away 16 tracks for free, and then tour off that, and get more features off that, and live off that.... nah nikka... you not getting any money/exposure out here unless we getting a piece... and we also not dissolving your contract so someone else can pick you up for free, and make money that should be ours



welcome to the shelf



now there is a way to get off the shelf... you either keep grinding with no label support, build your own buzz up, and create another monster smash... then the label will suddenly have a change of heart and back you again

or you make it so fukking bad for the label... getting on radio, tv, interviews... just shytting on them... going up to the office tearing shyt up... giving them all the worst press they ever had... and then they'll drop you... but don't think that other labels didn't see you doing that... and don't think it don't ruin your value as well






music is a business.... first contract is usually shyt money with 4-5 albums required... but the label has all the say on if they'll count and album or even accept it and put it out... in the meantime they own your name, rights to your image, and rights to all your music... so if you think you just gonna be dropping free shyt and living off that... they will shut that shyt the fukk down if they want to... most just see a benefit so puff ain't shutting down french's free tapes... and lyor ain't stopping fetty's tapes cause he made that money


but migos getting all that money poured in... plus i'm sure lawyer money... plus i'm sure extra money after versace blew.... then coming out and doing 30k... lyor ain't about to invest another damn dollar in that shyt.. migos is played out, they made no money, and there's no hit on the radio that says they'll be making any soon



welcome to the shelf

 

[Charlie]

no shelf them to save your damn money and say fukk them... unless of course they become big, then you still own them


it's like this


company LENDS you 1 milly (first problem artists have, forgetting this is a loan and not a paycheck)

company DEMANDS you at least give back the milly later... but really wants you to give back 1.5 or more (return on investment)

artist sales are shytty... artist makes back 100k, 250k, 500k back... still short


well now the company has two options... if they truly believe in you and like you, well here's another 500k or even here's another 1 mil... try again homie... we love the music... you're a great artist... you bring us money other ways... plus you on tv, features, clubs, you blowing up breh... we got you (but you still owe that money back)



orrrrrrrr... company never saw you as more than a check... and you lost our fukking money... and we have no belief if we give you more that you'll make any money.. your buzz window has closed...

well now we not letting you put out no product... we not wasting that money no more... and to take it a step farther, we own you and your music... so if you think you gonna give away 16 tracks for free, and then tour off that, and get more features off that, and live off that.... nah nikka... you not getting any money/exposure out here unless we getting a piece... and we also not dissolving your contract so someone else can pick you up for free, and make money that should be ours



welcome to the shelf



now there is a way to get off the shelf... you either keep grinding with no label support, build your own buzz up, and create another monster smash... then the label will suddenly have a change of heart and back you again

or you make it so fukking bad for the label... getting on radio, tv, interviews... just shytting on them... going up to the office tearing shyt up... giving them all the worst press they ever had... and then they'll drop you... but don't think that other labels didn't see you doing that... and don't think it don't ruin your value as well






music is a business.... first contract is usually shyt money with 4-5 albums required... but the label has all the say on if they'll count and album or even accept it and put it out... in the meantime they own your name, rights to your image, and rights to all your music... so if you think you just gonna be dropping free shyt and living off that... they will shut that shyt the fukk down if they want to... most just see a benefit so puff ain't shutting down french's free tapes... and lyor ain't stopping fetty's tapes cause he made that money


but migos getting all that money poured in... plus i'm sure lawyer money... plus i'm sure extra money after versace blew.... then coming out and doing 30k... lyor ain't about to invest another damn dollar in that shyt.. migos is played out, they made no money, and there's no hit on the radio that says they'll be making any soon



welcome to the shelf

But lyor ain't losing no money promoting thug or migos they don't got no promotion. Or very little promotion. And I'm assuming they recouped or are close to it. Migos and thug have had songs that have done well.

My point being they at least got some amount of buzz. That's undeniable. So why not strike while the iron hot?

I'd rather have a piece of 50k sold then a piece of nothing.

 

[Nature's Fury]

But lyor ain't losing no money promoting thug or migos they don't got no promotion. Or very little promotion. And I'm assuming they recouped or are close to it. Migos and thug have had songs that have done well.

My point being they at least got some amount of buzz. That's undeniable. So why not strike while the iron hot?

I'd rather have a piece of 50k sold then a piece of nothing.

perspective mostly...Migos and Young Thug still relevant, but 300 looking at people like Future and Fetty and thinkin they need to be that hot before before we let them drop...300 is a horrible company...don't know what the fukk they doin'...

they could easily drop all these free tapes on iTunes and collect, but it'll count against they contractually obligated albums if they do, and they only wanna drop those if that artist is hot like a Future or Fetty...they need to realize that it just ain't gonna happen and let the boys do they thing...

 

[mortuus est]

Is 300 an actual record label or just a management label??

indie label with ties to atlantic

Funding
The company is getting backing from a wide range of investors; Google (which has put in around $5 million),[citation needed] investment firm Columbus Nova, Israeli-American hedge fund billionaire Noam Gottesman’s Toms Capital, former Warner Music digital chief Alex Zubillaga, Kemado Records' co-founder Andres Santo Domingo and several other investors.[citation needed] The investment agreements were pulled together by media investment banker Aryeh Bourkoff and Ori Winitze] of LionTree

Twitter
In February 2014, 300 signed a deal to partner with Twitter that will allow 300 full access to the company’s data—including information unavailable to the public, such as tags that reveal the location from which a tweet was sent, in order to discover artists at an early stage and help develop them

300 aint to bad tbh, u got young phag, fetty wap and even guys like robb banks who seem to be doing alright making money just doing shows and tours, i think they even tried to sign sha hef to the label , i seen that kneega wearing a 300 tshirt

 

[mortuus est]

perspective mostly...Migos and Young Thug still relevant, but 300 looking at people like Future and Fetty and thinkin they need to be that hot before before we let them drop

it depends, i think they just want people that got fans that will actually support them, the company must of thought migos was gonna do 100k first week

migos and young phag are much more known than robb banks but they released his album with no problems or fuss, and he aint even making money like that, the most hes getting is probably 5k a show

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

But lyor ain't losing no money promoting thug or migos they don't got no promotion. Or very little promotion. And I'm assuming they recouped or are close to it. Migos and thug have had songs that have done well.

My point being they at least got some amount of buzz. That's undeniable. So why not strike while the iron hot?

I'd rather have a piece of 50k sold then a piece of nothing.

perspective mostly...Migos and Young Thug still relevant, but 300 looking at people like Future and Fetty and thinkin they need to be that hot before before we let them drop...300 is a horrible company...don't know what the fukk they doin'...

they could easily drop all these free tapes on iTunes and collect, but it'll count against they contractually obligated albums if they do, and they only wanna drop those if that artist is hot like a Future or Fetty...they need to realize that it just ain't gonna happen and let the boys do they thing...

breh the iron ain't hot... at all

people want you to believe nobody is selling... that's dead wrong... you got nikkas selling all over the place... doing at least 60k first week... a few nikkas doing 80-100k... maybe 6-10 nikkas doing 150-300k.. and 1-2 doing 500k


doing 12k... 30k.... you finished... it's over

you might think "they not really being promoted".... that ain't the point... everything is under the label for cost... i give you an advance, i'm (lyor) paying that... you need a billboard, i'm paying that... you get a per diem (daily money to eat and look fresh)... you need to fly to this place... you need an interview over here.. you need to record.. you need to mix, master, engineer.. you need to get a tour set up... tour dj... magazine ads... tv ads... i need to grease some palms to get you play... i gotta actually print up these cds.. i gotta pay these producers, writers, photographers.... etc etc etc

and you only making me 30k in sales?? and that's not 100% profit to the label... nah i gotta pay the distributor and everyone else involved making a dollar.... and now you bricked you need ANOTHER 250k? and that's low low low balling it... you already blew my money

now what i'm gonna do is let you blow YOUR money... see how it feels... if you can drum up another hit, i'll give you more... but you ain't going no fukking where owing me money... and you damn sure ain't gonna be giving away shyt for free when you owe me money



lets do a jayz type thing


i give you $100 in weed... tell you bring me back 150 and keep the rest.... you bring me back 30 dollars

you think i'm gonna give you more weed? you think i'm not gonna fukk you up when you owe me 120 dollars but you outside giving away free weed a week later?

you can grow your own weed, and when you make the money, i'll take it and give you some more of my weed.... but until that happens... i better not catch you with weed or money that is owed to me

 

[Charlie]

breh the iron ain't hot... at all

Thug buzz is crazy. Migos just got new life when offset came home.

If u got the best dope out, (crazy buzz)
U get rid of that shyt no? (Drop projects)

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

Thug buzz is crazy. Migos just got new life when offset came home.

If u got the best dope out, (crazy buzz)
U get rid of that shyt no? (Drop projects)

that's what YOU say... numbers (the only buzz a label cares about) would say you're dead wrong

again... a label ain't going off bought views and hood hot and what bumps in the car and twitter followers and page views on articles


they go off charts, sales, radio spings, how big a paying crowd you can bring.... things that equal money

i can offer up a free concert and fill it with 250k people.... wouldn't matter shyt to a company like having a #9 hit and 30k people who are paying $50 to get in



you give me some hard evidence that thug has a huge buzz... and by buzz i mean paying customers


that's all the labels care about