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So Conductor said it's not a official project but Mach been playing the album in his private concerts & saying it'll be out soon 

I mean they get beat tapes from producers all the time. Once you're in the game, it's not that hard to get beats from different producers. I was never a rapper or a producer and just working for some producers I ended up with beats on my hard drive from some well known producers in the 00's and 10's.So how this even work, how did Mach get hold of these beats? It's wild to steal beats and then release an album with them as if nothing happened
I mean they get beat tapes from producers all the time. Once you're in the game, it's not that hard to get beats from different producers. I was never a rapper or a producer and just working for some producers I ended up with beats on my hard drive from some well known producers in the 00's and 10's.
Mach and Conductor have worked a lot already. Conductor definitely has sent him a ton of beats over the years. But Mach has a habit of taking beats that he has access to and just recording on them and releasing them.
I think both things can true. Earlier in the year they were both talking about "conductor we have a solution" but also Mach has done that in the past specifically with THE GAT where he was charging a starting price of 3-5K per vinyl but didn't clear it with the producers and did not give them a dime.I mean they get beat tapes from producers all the time. Once you're in the game, it's not that hard to get beats from different producers. I was never a rapper or a producer and just working for some producers I ended up with beats on my hard drive from some well known producers in the 00's and 10's.
Mach and Conductor have worked a lot already. Conductor definitely has sent him a ton of beats over the years. But Mach has a habit of taking beats that he has access to and just recording on them and releasing them.
So which one is it? He steal it from Chris or Dutch? Like others have said, either is fine (even though there's no evidence in any way re Dutch aside from 'oh I was there').At the label.
None of us ever even thought that. I never heard anybody outside saying that either. Only people I ever heard speaking on that, were people online who have a history of not liking dude. Plus, the flow they claim he stole from Chris, he was using during the Dynasty sessions. Which was way before Chris and Neef even came around. Ab Liva, Dutch and Spade were the first people I ever heard using that. Definitely wasn't Chris or anyone on Roc.
But yeah, Jay was doing that in freestyles and on Clue tapes before anyone even met Chris. So it's just another one of those things that caught fire online and people ran with it. Which is why, even when Chris was beefing with Jay and had issues with him, he still said that it wasn't true because he knows. He didn't get that from Chris. That was a flow that a lot of people were using around '98-'00. That's why Bleek said everybody just was influenced by each other. Because at that time, there were a million different flows going on and most MC's would just go with whatever worked for them. But it's like Chris said, Jay was already doing that by the time he got to the label.
Truth be told, he got that from street dudes that used to be around who rapped, before Chris even came to the label. That's all Dutch and Spade. Most people just don’t know who they are, so they speak about Chris. They had a crew of dudes who used to rap and would have mad different styles. They idolized Jay and they were supposed to sign to Roc, but they ended up signing with Un. This was '98. Dutch and Spade were always around because Jay really wanted to sign them and loved those dudes. That was a flow they used to use in the cyphers we used to always have at the office. There was no Young Chris at the time. That's a Philly street thing, but it comes from Dutch and Spade, not Chris.
Jay's idea was to have these dudes be a part of the Dynasty, but they decided to sign elsewhere.
i told yall he stole these beats from conductor lol.... i knew what it was when conductor went off on him on his live....they had to hurry up and get this off platforms. i assume some of these were even used by other artists just havent come out.
I mean they get beat tapes from producers all the time. Once you're in the game, it's not that hard to get beats from different producers. I was never a rapper or a producer and just working for some producers I ended up with beats on my hard drive from some well known producers in the 00's and 10's.
Mach and Conductor have worked a lot already. Conductor definitely has sent him a ton of beats over the years. But Mach has a habit of taking beats that he has access to and just recording on them and releasing them.
stream music brehsMan the songs I liked not available no more![]()