Magic Johnson ethers Steph Curry's GOAT PG case

[KidJSoul]

Most basketball fans are retarded when it comes to recency bias. Probably the tiktok short attention spans wit it.

Steph ain't fw Magic. Magic was a far better playoff performer. You couldn't stop him or Lakers offense in playoffs. We seen Steph get bullied, targetted on defense and clamped in many series that he lost. Magic barely had any playoff blemish aside from Tragic Johnson moment. It took Steph 6 finals to win a MVP and be the clear best player on his team in a finals series. He had many playoff blemish aside from finals too. And all this not even takin his injuries into account. Magic did it wit many different supportin cast and coaches too. Steph always needed Kerr coachin/system and Draymond/Klay for his game to work. Magic was winnin MVP and makin finals runs coached by Mike Dunleavy and playin wit Worthy, Byron Scott, Sam Perkins and Vlade Divac lol

He don't got no case over Magic. Truth be tol a nikka like Oscar Robertson got a better case over him than he do Magic.

This is a dumb argument

Completely ignore magic having Kareem "


Acr like worthy and score weren't good players

Act like curry didn't have to carry Klay and Dray in 2 of his rings


Act like Kerr is some great coach (you watching this olympics?), and ignore how successful Pat Riley was as a coach post magic

 

[skyrunner1]

Hes better


The 80’s/90’s are done

We done with them nikkas.. fukk it.. Our era was better at everything, show me highlights of Magic baptizing an entire country on their home court as destroys their team, turns them into fans who cheer him on and have Starbury doin play by play.. I NEVER heard Starbury do play by play for Magic

 

[DraymondT]

This is a dumb argument

Completely ignore magic having Kareem "


Acr like worthy and score weren't good players

Act like curry didn't have to carry Klay and Dray in 2 of his rings


Act like Kerr is some great coach (you watching this olympics?), and ignore how successful Pat Riley was as a coach post magic

The point of that point was Magic had a finals run wit a midd ass coach in Dunleavy without Riley or Kareem. Steph aint done shyt without Draymond the lead playmaker and leadin assist man of Warriors whole run, orchestratin offense wit his playmakin and illegal screens and best defender of his era or Klay a top 3 shooter ever and always guarded opposin PGs makin Steph able to hide on defense wit Draymond patrollin

Steph was a star player but not even MVP level when he had Mark Jackson coachin. Kerr system changed everythin for him. Magic was winnin MVP makin finals runs without Kareem or Riley. Any coach or teammate he was takin the floor of that team to as high as any player could. Steph cant do that and we KNOW that when he aint have Klay in 2021 they missed playoff and he rely heavy on Draymond to take playmakin duties and cover his ass on defense. And Magic a far better playoff performer too.

Worthy and Scott was good players but as 2nd, 3rd options they mid. Steph has always had the most stacked twoway rosters in the league since 2015 aside from like 2 seasons. You don't know what you watchin if you think Steph carried em in 2022 when they had the number 1 defense and 2nd best reboundin team in the league. Steph fans don't know how to watch defense so that not surprisin they dont ever factor it in.

 

[Stuntone]

Curry has 1 Fmvp, how he better than Magic. Yall are prisoners of the moment. Curry's stats and percentages drop in the playoffs.

He is the greatest regular season shooter.

 

[skyrunner1]

Curry has 1 Fmvp, how he better than Magic. Yall are prisoners of the moment. Curry's stats and percentages drop in the playoffs.

He is the greatest regular season shooter.

No Curry Slander will be had for 48 hours atleast.. We not doing that today

 

[Devil Plisken…CMS]

Steph and Lebron have had almost 40 years between them to prove their case. Nothing they do now can move the needle. They need to be winning NBA championships, MVP's and Finals MVP's and that isn't gonna happen anymore.

This is a dumb argument

Completely ignore magic having Kareem "

Act like curry didn't have to carry Klay and Dray in 2 of his rings

Dray’s defense was pivotal in 22. He did what he is paid to do.

How many points did Kareem average in The Laker’s 91 Finals run?

How many points did James Worthy average in The Laker’s 91 Finals run?

How many Olympic teams did Mike Dunleavy coach?

How many Olympic teams has Steve Kerr coached?

How many 1st team appearances does Magic have?

How many 1st team appearances does Steph have?

 

[Snake316]

Oh these old grey beard balding nikkas in they feelings. Negging me sorry but 90% of millennials, Gen Z/Gen Alpha, and people not stuck in the past agree Steph>Magic

 

[BlueHeffner]

Why must we always do this when someone does even the most minute thing or has any accomplishment.

Why can't Steph be great in his own right without bringing Magic's name into it?

Steph and Lebron have had almost 40 years between them to prove their case. Nothing they do now can move the needle. They need to be winning NBA championships, MVP's and Finals MVP's and that isn't gonna happen anymore.

Thats not how it works. Ranking players isnt solely about accolade count. Steph is dominating on the world stage on a team with the goat, at age 36 going on 37 whereas Magic was retired by 31.

 

[viktordoomsecretwars]

Thats not how it works. Ranking players isnt solely about accolade count. Steph is dominating on the world stage on a team with the goat, at age 36 going on 37 whereas Magic was retired by 31.

Magic did more in less years? Its clear, check the resume. Also , we all know why Magic was forced to retire. Athletes across all sports are playing deep into their 30's now. Its a logical part of the advancement of sports medicine. The fact Magic's resume still overshadows Steph's in less seasons played kind of tells you who the better player is.

 

[BlueHeffner]

Magic did more in less years? Its clear, check the resume. Also , we all know why Magic was forced to retire. Athletes across all sports are playing deep into their 30's now. Its a logical part of the advancement of sports medicine. The fact Magic's resume still overshadows Steph's in less seasons played kind of tells you who the better player is.

U can not rank players solely on their resume’s. How stupid is that?

Magic aint win a single ring without Kareem and played in an era where the Western Conference was trash.

 

[Regular_P]

The point of that point was Magic had a finals run wit a midd ass coach in Dunleavy without Riley or Kareem. Steph aint done shyt without Draymond the lead playmaker and leadin assist man of Warriors whole run, orchestratin offense wit his playmakin and illegal screens and best defender of his era or Klay a top 3 shooter ever and always guarded opposin PGs makin Steph able to hide on defense wit Draymond patrollin

Steph was a star player but not even MVP level when he had Mark Jackson coachin. Kerr system changed everythin for him. Magic was winnin MVP makin finals runs without Kareem or Riley. Any coach or teammate he was takin the floor of that team to as high as any player could. Steph cant do that and we KNOW that when he aint have Klay in 2021 they missed playoff and he rely heavy on Draymond to take playmakin duties and cover his ass on defense. And Magic a far better playoff performer too.

Worthy and Scott was good players but as 2nd, 3rd options they mid. Steph has always had the most stacked twoway rosters in the league since 2015 aside from like 2 seasons. You don't know what you watchin if you think Steph carried em in 2022 when they had the number 1 defense and 2nd best reboundin team in the league. Steph fans don't know how to watch defense so that not surprisin they dont ever factor it in.

This is one of the dumbest posts I've ever seen like Curry didn't win a title with Andrew Wiggins as his second option.

 

[viktordoomsecretwars]

U can not rank players solely on their resume’s. How stupid is that?

Magic aint win a single ring without Kareem and played in an era where the Western Conference was trash.

Magic was the main reason we think of Kareem the way we do today. Kareem before Magic was viewed as an inferior version of Wilt. A stat-padder and underachiever.

Kareem without Magic missed the playoffs in his prime. He used to get bounced early in the 1st and 2nd round. In only his first season, Magic took the Lakers to an NBA championship and won the Finals MVP. Magic will then go on to play in 9 NBA finals.

Kareem was a loser before Magic arrived. Magic was the Lakers best player. Magic was the reason the 80's Lakers were a special team. These are just facts.

And if we're not judging players on resume then WTF are we talking about?

 

[BlueHeffner]

Magic was the main reason we think of Kareem the way we do today. Kareem before Magic was viewed as an inferior version of Wilt. A stat-padder and underachiever.

Kareem without Magic missed the playoffs in his prime. He used to get bounced early in the 1st and 2nd round. In only his first season, Magic took the Lakers to an NBA championship and won the Finals MVP. Magic will then go on to play in 9 NBA finals.

Kareem was a loser before Magic arrived. Magic was the Lakers best player. Magic was the reason the 80's Lakers were a special team. These are just facts.

And if we're not judging players on resume then WTF are we talking about?

Wait, Kareem was a loser before Magic arrived (he won a ring and fmvp)?

Magic shouldnt have even won that first finals mvp.
Kareem averaged 33 and 13

 

[Ozymandeas]

I prefer Steph.

Magic is the more traditional point guard but, Steph achieves the same thing in a different way. Magic had court vision to pass to open teammates. Steph is so deadly from the three that wherever he moves on the court pulls the defense towards him to open up everyone else. Also, Steph is still deadly at 36. I understand Magic got sick but, I'm not gonna make Steph have to apologize for still being an elite player deep into his thirties.

 

[Ozymandeas]

If Bron can be better than Mike without having the accolades, then so can Steph be better than Magic

Bron isn't better than Jordan Don't try to sneak that in.