Mahomes is top-4 all time

[Joe Sixpack]

Peyton
Montana
Marino
Aaron Rodgers

U give these players the coaching Brady and Mahomes had and lets see what they do

I forgot about Aaron Rodgers

On pure passing talent he’s worthy but it more then that

He’s so much of a p*ssy and chokes in so many playoff games

He’s disqualified

I know you gonna come back with what about Peyton but Peyton has much better intangibles

 

[Tony D'Amato]

I forgot about Aaron Rodgers

On pure passing talent he’s worthy but it more then that

He’s so much of a p*ssy and chokes in so many playoff games

He’s disqualified

I know you gonna come back with what about Peyton but Peyton has much better intangibles

Rodgers, Marino and Elway are the best arm talents I ever saw. I admit Rodgers mentality could fukk up some good teams. When he list the NFC title game to Brady in the covid yr, I stopped arguing for him as a goat candidate.

If Manning had and Brady had Dungy, Brady woulda never beat Manning. Never

Also, Warren Moon as an arm talent belongs in this discussion.

 

[JYoung24]

Rodgers failures = 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022. So basically his past 4 seasons have been on him. 3 of those 4 years he had a defense and he couldnt capitalize.

2011 = defense and WRs who had like 10 drops that game.

2012 = defense (kaepernick made history)

2013 = defense

2014 = coach, special teams and partially Rodgers/offense.

2016 = defense but they should of lost in Dallas if not for Dallas being Dallas. Rodgers did better vs ATL then Brady did in the SB. only difference is Packers defense couldnt stop a nose bleed while Pat defense only allowed 21 points all game.

The consensus is in his prime, he was wasted behind mediocre talent, coaches and all time bad defenses.

2019 and on is all on him and most Packer fans have came to this realization.

That Tampa and first 49ers game is not on him

 

[JYoung24]

Nawl, Lavonte David or Shaq Barrett prolly was

Mahomes displayed his greatness tho. Andy Reid’s inability to adjust the offense with their o-line issues caused them to collapse like that

That's hard to argue against but I was talking about offense

 

[Bboystyle]

That Tampa and first 49ers game is not on him

The tampa game he played like shyt until the 3rd. But i can say the defense was ass too.

That NIners game is on him. 0 points all first half and showed up in garbage time.

 

[JYoung24]

The tampa game he played like shyt until the 3rd. But i can say the defense was ass too.

That NIners game is on him. 0 points all first half and showed up in garbage time.

Nah that niners game they was outmatched

 

[Rekkapryde]

I forgot about Aaron Rodgers

On pure passing talent he’s worthy but it more then that

He’s so much of a p*ssy and chokes in so many playoff games

He’s disqualified

I know you gonna come back with what about Peyton but Peyton has much better intangibles

The last 2 NFC championship games he lost dropped him lower for me especially the last one. The one they blew when Tom threw those 3 picks and still lost I don't put that on him as much.

But that last one.....nah. 10 points by the offense when our offense (Niners) only scored 6 and we were in Lambeau? Nah, that's on him. I know our defense shut them down, but 10 points at your crib ain't acceptable.

 

[L&HH]

This may have been one of the biggest carry jobs in nfl history. This team doesn’t make the playoffs without Mahomes and he did this with a sprained ankle.

 

[Flight]

It's funny when people bring up what Mahomes productivity may be like without Andy Reid.

Bro, the Chiefs jumped 17 spots up in the draft to get this guy.

Sean Payton has gone on record saying they really were hoping Mahomes would fall to them with the next pick. Dude even told Drew Brees.


Two of the greatest offensive minds the NFL has ever seen basically were desperate to land Mahomes.

That says something about him as a QB no matter the system.

Bruce Arians said something similar. It speaks volumes when Andy, Payton and Arians are all crazy about a QB prospect.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Peyton
Montana
Marino
Aaron Rodgers

U give these players the coaching Brady and Mahomes had and lets see what they do

Montana low-key benefitted more from coaching and team than anyone. He was fantastic under pressure and had an accurate arm, but his college #'s were unimpressive and his combine performance was mediocre enough that he didn't get drafted until the end of the third round. When Bill Walsh instituted the West Coast system, it fukked with NFL defenses for years and was a perfect fit for Montana's skills. Put Montana in some other system and Super Bowls wouldn't have been a given. Add in that he benefitted from some of the best receiving corps in NFL history, legendary linemen, HOF running backs, and an often elite defense (gave up just 63 points combined in his 4 Super Bowls), and you could say that in many ways Montana benefitted from circumstances even more than Brady.

 

[Chip Skylark]

This may have been one of the biggest carry jobs in nfl history. This team doesn’t make the playoffs without Mahomes and he did this with a sprained ankle.

I remember arguing with Packer fans about MVS and his drops.

People thought Juju was garbage though Ben been washed.

CHIEFSKINGDOM has been complaining about CEH and saying he’s a bust. Lol I’m included we could’ve gotten Jonathan Taylor instead smh

But somehow dude real life made it work. Shout out Pacheco for stepping up as a rookie. Mckinnon stepped up and really is a top passing back.

 

[IIVI]

Bruce Arians said something similar. It speaks volumes when Andy, Payton and Arians are all crazy about a QB prospect.

Also says something about the 10 teams who evaluated him and passed.

Chargers

 

[Tony D'Amato]

Montana low-key benefitted more from coaching and team than anyone. He was fantastic under pressure and had an accurate arm, but his college #'s were unimpressive and his combine performance was mediocre enough that he didn't get drafted until the end of the third round. When Bill Walsh instituted the West Coast system, it fukked with NFL defenses for years and was a perfect fit for Montana's skills. Put Montana in some other system and Super Bowls wouldn't have been a given. Add in that he benefitted from some of the best receiving corps in NFL history, legendary linemen, HOF running backs, and an often elite defense (gave up just 63 points combined in his 4 Super Bowls), and you could say that in many ways Montana benefitted from circumstances even more than Brady.

I added him by mistake. I grew up a niners fan. That wc o is why I believe Jerry Rice ain't the goat.

 

[Baka's Weird Case]

Peyton
Montana
Marino
Aaron Rodgers

U give these players the coaching Brady and Mahomes had and lets see what they do

yeah Joe Montanas career really suffered playing under Bill Walsh. not like hes a top five coach in NFL history or anything. im sure he wouldve won more rings with Andy Reid

 

[Tony D'Amato]

yeah Joe Montanas career really suffered playing under Bill Walsh. not like hes a top five coach in NFL history or anything. im sure he wouldve won more rings with Andy Reid

I literally just responded to that u dumb shyt