Malcolm Butler benched. Update-Says NE gave up on him

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Reading clearly isn't your strong suit, as I already stated Butler's rumored misdeeds were "alleged."




You can miss me with all the extraneous, faulty analogies. :mjlol:

Sometimes you can inadvertently cut off your nose to spite your face! The bottom line is that the severe punishment (rumored) handed down by Belichick doesn't fit the purported violation & his decision to bench Malcolm Butler (only using him for special team play) in the Super Bowl was not only short sighted, it was egotistical & selfish, especially in a team oriented sport like Football. So not only did Belicheck's coarse actions (for whatever reason) cost him and the Patriots organization a possible Superbowl & additional acclaim in the history books, your best Cornerback is also a free agent next year & after this fiasco, more than likely won't resign with the team.





You just validated my original premise without even realizing it! :heh:

You don't give someone 10 years in prison for jaywalking. There are different levels of action or discipline that one should take depending on the severity of the situation. Furthermore, it's evident your comprehension is sorely lacking, as I distinctly mentioned in my prior post Malcolm Butler should have been punished if the allegations against him are/were true, but that the harshness & timing of the discipline was questionable.



The whole point of my post is that the timing of a punishment shouldn't matter, and if rules are broken, then for consistency's sake you don't just skirt that shyt under the rug because it's inconvenient to drop the hammer at that time. You check the offender when they fukk up, regardless of when that is. Going back to my analogy, if your girl fukks up, you shouldn't wait until after she gets you J's or whatever the hell for Valentine's Day before you check her. You nip that in the bud when she fukks up so in a perfect world, she doesn't do the shyt again.

If Butler had done something where he warranted being benched, then it doesn't matter if it's Week 1 or the Super Bowl. I don't know about you, but smoking weed/missing curfew/blowing up at coaches -- i.e. showing up to work late, showing up intoxicated, insubordination/disrespecting fellow co-workers -- are not things I'd term as an "insignificant infraction."

That kind of shyt should get people sent home, fired, :camby:'d. Or in a pro football player's case, benched. Not that it really matters, since we don't know the specifics, but IF that is what happened -- I based my post off of a hypothetical, as you clearly comprehended -- then he more than deserved to be benched, timing of it be damned.
 

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I'm sure will come out he was late for a meeting or something and beli petty ass was teaching him a lesson
 

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Maybe terrible wasn't the best word to use but basically the Saban/Kiffin relationship was so toxic at that point to where I don't think we would've played any better than we did that night if Kiffin worked the game.

Right, i def agree and like you said, was 3 secs away from winning it all anyways
 

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The whole point of my post is that the timing of a punishment shouldn't matter,

Nonsense! In certain situations, the "timing of a punishment" is just as important as the punishment or discipline itself.

You check the offender when they fukk up, regardless of when that is.

:rudy:

This simply could have been accomplished by reprimanding & fining Butler (the Patriots could have also taken a portion or all of Butler's $53,000 Superbowl bonus) without all the histrionics.

Going back to my analogy, if your girl fukks up, you shouldn't wait until after she gets you J's or whatever the hell for Valentine's Day before you check her. You nip that in the bud when she fukks up so in a perfect world, she doesn't do the shyt again.

Your analogy is defective because Bill Belichick's actions benching Malcolm Butler don't just affect him personally, but others as well. And again, reading is fundamental as I've plainly mentioned numerous times that Butler should have been disciplined, just not in the manner Belichick chose.

Furthermore, the girlfriend correlation you keep presenting also doesn't factor in other aspects or dynamics which are unique to the Patriots that wouldn't apply to your simplistic comparison regarding checking your "girl".

:pachaha:


If Butler had done something where he warranted being benched, then it doesn't matter if it's Week 1 or the Super Bowl. I don't know about you, but smoking weed/missing curfew/blowing up at coaches -- i.e. showing up to work late, showing up intoxicated, insubordination/disrespecting fellow co-workers -- are not things I'd term as an "insignificant infraction."

In the grand scheme of things, Butler's alleged actions are "insignificant" especially when considering the magnitude of the event & what was at stake. A large fine handed down by the Patriots would have simply sufficed without penalizing his teammates on the field, hindering the organization from possibly capturing & profiting off a record 6th Superbowl championship.
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That kind of shyt should get people sent home, fired, :camby:'d. Or in a pro football player's case, benched. Not that it really matters, since we don't know the specifics, but IF that is what happened -- I based my post off of a hypothetical, as you clearly comprehended -- then he more than deserved to be benched, timing of it be damned.

You're certainly entitled to your opinion, even if it's completely erroneous (specifically when looking at the big picture) as Belichick's disciplinary actions didn't actually achieve anything of real benefit or value in the end.

:yeshrug:
 

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Not buying those tweets.

Butler was befuddled trying to explain why Pats didn't play him. If he did the shyt those tweets suggest, he'd know damn well why the fukk he ain't play. He would just back up Beli's cooperate talk to save face.
 

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I disagree with you and am okay with you finding my opinion as trash as I find yours on this matter.

You can "disagree" all you want, but it still doesn't change the fact that Bill Belichick's overzealous actions towards Malcolm Butler cost himself & the Patriots a chance at another Superbowl championship & a significant place in football history while marring his legacy in the process.

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:russ:@ your Bill Belichick & the Patriots "consistency" & "standards" regarding disciplining players.
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Malcolm Butler’s ex-teammate hints that weed, curfew led to benching

By Hannah Withiam February 5, 2018 | 6:07pm

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Malcolm Butler’s defender is back with a more scandalous version of his story.

Butler’s former Patriots teammate, Brandon Browner, followed up his social media post ripping Bill Belichick for benching the cornerback in their Super Bowl LII loss to the Eagles with another making vague reference to Butler’s recent disciplinary history.

In the edited Instagram video, Browner alludes to Belichick’s reasoning Monday that “a lot of things” went into the decision, citing marijuana possession and breaking curfew as two factors that kept Butler out of the game. Browner, who was on the field for Butler’s late interception that sealed the Patriots’ win over the Seahawks in Super Bowl XLIX, also shares insight into Belichick’s disciplinary system, which he says offers players “second chances” unless they’re not a “favorite.”

“For weed? For curfew? Man, do y’all history,” Browner says in the video. “Patriots [are] a team that give guys second chances. I know players that they used to let [their] wives sleep in the bed with them on away games. I ain’t gonna say no names.

“Like every job, there’s always favorites, and lil’ bro wasn’t a favorite. He was a favorite for us for what he can do, but … it probably felt like they can use him, like he was a pawn, a piece of this game.”


Butler’s no-show in the game Sunday night hurt the Patriots on the field, with fill-in cornerback Eric Rowe getting scorched in the first quarter on a 34-yard touchdown pass, and gave Belichick plenty to answer for afterward. Belichick called the benching a “football decision” after the game, before acknowledging there may have been more to the story on a conference call with reporters the next day.


“I appreciate the question, but it would be a much longer discussion,” Belichick said Monday. “There are a lot of things that go into that. In the end, the final decision is what I said it was.”

The multitude of factors Belichick referenced can be translated into a build-up of issues Butler raised in the week leading up to the Super Bowl, according to NFL Network. The veteran was reportedly dealing with an illness, a mistake-filled week of practice and disciplinary incidents, including a minor rules violation related to curfew.

Still, Browner blamed Belichick for believing his offense, behind Tom Brady’s Super Bowl-record 505 yards passing and three touchdowns, could earn him his sixth Lombardi Trophy.

“Bill seen that look in Toms eyes last night and thought we can win without our role players. Tom played the greatest game last [night] in super bowl history (statistically),” Browner wrote in the Instagram caption. “But when you do wrong, nothing good can come out of that. Tom did everything he could do last night. Tom Brady was the goat last night. Malcolm’s presence was missed and felt last night.”

Butler, who said he felt the Patriots “gave up” on him, is expected to move on from New England as a free agent this offseason. The 27-year-old finished the season fourth on the team in tackles (60) and tied for second in interceptions (2).

https://nypost.com/2018/02/05/malcolm-butlers-ex-teammate-weed-curfew-led-to-benching/
 
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