Man Can’t Get Heart Transplant Because He’s Not Vaccinated Against COVID

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-It IS stupid. They said this dude would die a week after the transplant in a HYPOTHETICAL ass scenario, which is what I initially called stupid. You're off topic.
- As far as family. I've mentioned my Grandfather dying, he was on his death bed with preexisting conditions. We don't know for sure if he died FROM it or just died WITH it but he had Covid when he died. My sister works in the medical field & brought that shyt home (their house), everyone caught it & he died. My BM works in the medical field & brought it home, my daughter & grandkids got sick but I can't remember if they got tested. We gonna keep bringing up family?

Here you are again questioning medical professionals as if you opinion means anything :mjlol:
 

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-It IS stupid. They said this dude would die a week after the transplant in a HYPOTHETICAL ass scenario, which is what I initially called stupid. You're off topic.

Considering Omicron is more transmissible than Alpha, the variant my cousin had, no, it's neither stupid nor off topic.

It's probable.​
 

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A lot of the responses from vax nazis essentially saying he should go ahead and die due to non vaccinated causes lets me know that they will have no problem with eventually having the unvaccinated put in camps because they feel it will somehow 'make them safer' despite the fact that if the vaccine actually worked, they wouldn't have anything to worry about from the unvaccinated.

No, we're saying he should have gotten the shots when they told him he needed it for the transplant. He had a chance and refused to comply so he should shut up and accept the consequences. This isn't up for debate as the hospitals put rules like this in place for a very good reason. He's trying to be slick and get some conservatives to get him back on the list.

Unvaxxed concentration camps:russ:

Like I said y'all are making this a politicial issue.
 

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A lot of the responses from vax nazis essentially saying he should go ahead and die due to non vaccinated causes lets me know that they will have no problem with eventually having the unvaccinated put in camps because they feel it will somehow 'make them safer' despite the fact that if the vaccine actually worked, they wouldn't have anything to worry about from the unvaccinated.
They have limited hearts…they don’t want to use one up on him that could have gone to some else with a better chance of surviving


not like they are withholding a heart from him out of spite
 
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Weird how the daily mail doesn't give a shyt about people that can't afford healthcare and die due to that in America. But think this a$$hole who won't take a free vaccine in order to get his heart deserves sympathy because he follows their ideology. None of these people should be taken seriously in any way shape or form. fukk him, and fukk the media that peddle this garbage
 

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Unfortunate, but he made his bed and has to lie in it. If you have kids to support, and have heart issues, being unvaccinated is Darwin award level stupidity.

And this isn't a COVID specific thing, hospitals have been requiring organ transplant recipients to be get vaccines for a while. It's a rational decision, organs are in short supply so hospitals want to give them to people with the highest odds of a successful transplant. If you're unvaccinated then you're not in that category. No different than a current smoker being ineligible for a lung transplant or an active alcoholic being ineligible for a liver transplant.


It is what it is, sometimes hospitals have to make difficult decisions. It sucks, but if you don't like it stop being an idiot and get vaccinated. :manny:
 

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-When I said the treatment part I was speaking in general relation to Covid & not about this specific case, my bad. I'm not saying the vax's different or less safe. My original point was the dude might never catch the shyt so saying he'd be dead in a week compared to another random person's stupid.
The risk is still there and it can't be ignored. Those safeguards are there for a reason.
 

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So you have 10 people on a list. You have 3 hearts to give, so one of 3 people you give is someone who can catch an easily preventable disease and die a couple of days after....
Some hospital you would run
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-If I got 10 people 3 hearts I got other shyt I'd be looking at. Some people would like it, some wouldn't. Just like every other fukking hospital.
 

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Did they finally release the exact ingredients yet? If not, you can't say that. Like Mercury in MMR. Potential hazard.

All the Ingredients in the COVID Vaccines, Explained - Forward

Since news in December that government officials and developers had successfully shepherded the two vaccines through FDA authorization, it’s been all-hands-on-deck around the country (including right here at Forward) to get both vaccines off their respective production lines and into people’s arms.

Still, as we all wait for our turn to get our two shots according to our different state and local governments’ phased approach, it’s perfectly natural to wonder, “What are the COVID vaccine ingredients?”, and “Are they safe to take?” Well, we took a look at both Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna’s publicly available ingredients list in order to find out what everything is in the order they’re listed, and here’s what we found.

Pfizer-BioNTech COVID Vaccine Ingredients
  1. Messenger ribonucleic acid (mRNA): If DNA is the recipe book cells within all living organisms use to reproduce themselves, then mRNA is like a copy of the recipe used to actually start cooking. In the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine, viral mRNA, as opposed to live virus or inactivated virus, is its main active ingredient. And the role of that mRNA is to provide instructions, i.e., the recipe, for our cells to produce copies of a specific coronavirus protein that triggers our immune system to train itself to fight back if the real virus ever shows up — all while the mRNA itself remains perfectly harmless.
  1. Lipids ((4-hydroxybutyl)azanediyl)bis(hexane-6,1-diyl)bis(2-hexyldecanoate), 2 [(polyethylene glycol)-2000]-N,N-ditetradecylacetamide, 1,2-Distearoyl-sn-glycero-3-phosphocholine, and cholesterol),: According to the journal Nature, lipids, a class of fatty acids which when combined together with other lipids to form lipid nanoparticles (thus all the long hard-to-pronounce chemical-y sounding names), act like little delivery vehicles into your body for nucleic acids like mRNA, helping to make the vaccine more effective.
  1. Potassium chloride: A type of salt, potassium chloride is used to maintain the pH balance of the vaccine.
  1. Monobasic potassium phosphate: Another type of salt.
  1. Sodium chloride: Another type of salt.
  1. Dibasic sodium phosphate dihydrate: Another type of salt.
  1. Sucrose: A type of sugar, sucrose is added to vaccines in order to keep them stable.
Moderna COVID Vaccine Ingredients
  1. Messenger ribonucleic acid (mRNA): Moderna’s synthetic mRNA have the same therapeutic function as Pfizer-BioNTech’s, with both vaccines targeting coronavirus spike proteins in order to train the body to produce an immune response.
  1. Lipids (SM-102, polyethylene glycol [PEG] 2000 dimyristoyl glycerol [DMG], cholesterol, and 1,2-distearoyl-sn-glycero-3-phosphocholine [DSPC]): Moderna’s lipid nanoparticles effectively work in the same fashion as Pfizer-BioNTech’s, however Moderna has opted for a different mix of synthetic lipids.
  1. Tromethamine: Similar to the salts in the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine, tromethamine is a type of alkaline buffer that, along with tromethamine hydrochloride, helps maintain the pH balance of the vaccine dose.
  1. Tromethamine hydrochloride: See above. Tromethamine hydrochloride needs to be mixed with tromethamine in order for the combination to reach the right pH of between 7 and 9.
  1. Acetic acid: If the tromethamines are the base, then acetic acid is — you guessed it — the acid that also helps maintain the vaccine’s pH balance.
  1. Sodium acetate: A salt for maintaining pH balance.
  1. Sucrose: A sugar to help keep the vaccine solution stabilized.
If you’re wondering if the ingredients listed above in both Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna vaccines are safe to take, the answer is “yes”; both vaccines, for instance, were authorized by the Food and Drug Administration as safe and effective, and California state health officials have even come out to say that neither vaccine includes ingredients that they would deem “out of the ordinary.” In fact, our doctors at Forward have received the vaccine and believe it is safe for almost all members.

That said, as with any vaccine, there remains the chance of side effects. In the case of these two vaccines, side effects can mimic some of the milder symptoms of COVID itself. But if you weigh those side effects against actually contracting COVID, the dangers are minimal by comparison.

Getting vaccinated, keeping up with guidance for boosters, and wearing a mask are the best COVID-19 prevention strategies for protecting yourself, your family, and any vulnerable people you encounter. Forward’s COVID-19 program offers vaccinations and boosters when available, and we’re here to answer all of your questions about what’s in them, how they work, and which might be best for you.
 
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