Man, I Don't Know What To Do. A Trans Started Working At My Company & It's All Uncomfortable Now.

[Cheech&Chong]

You could try growing up

 

[Payday23]

If I worked with a trans, its dikk would always be on my mind

Like, I know you want to be a woman, but the weaponry you have dangling between your legs say otherwise

 

[winb83]

Quote me where I showed hatred!
Throughout this thread, I said it's not hatred it's discomfort. Go ahead and read all pages.
If you equate mere discomfort with hatred then you are removing any substance from calling someone a racist.
You are doing TWO mistakes here
you are equating trans ppl with people of a certain race
AND... you are equating mere discomfort with HATRED!
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I'm not equating trans people with people of a certain race. I'm equating bigotry and intolerance to bigotry and intolerance. You seem to be obsessed with some sort of justifiable bigotry in where you being intolerant of another person because of their sexuality or identity is acceptable while someone else and their brand of that is unacceptable because of the target of their disdain.

A racist white person might say they're discomfortable in a work environment with black people. You're still suggesting there's some sort of justifiable bigotry and intolerance either way.

When called out on this your response is race is different than sexuality. What I'm asking you is this; because your brand of bigotry targets a different aspect of their person does that suddenly make it ok? If it does why isn't their version also ok?

 

[Umoja]

Coli going soft on trans

I never thought I would see it

We supposed to go hard on them?

 

[theoretic]

I'm not equating trans people with people of a certain race. I'm equating bigotry and intolerance to bigotry and intolerance. You seem to be obsessed with some sort of justifiable bigotry in where you being intolerant of another person because of their sexuality or identity is acceptable while someone else and their brand of that is unacceptable because of the target of their disdain.

A racist white person might say they're discomfortable in a work environment with black people. You're still suggesting there's some sort of justifiable bigotry and intolerance either way.

When called out on this your response is race is different than sexuality. What I'm asking you is this; because your brand of bigotry targets a different aspect of their person does that suddenly make it ok? If it does why isn't their version also ok?

You are unwittingly equating trans people with race because you're not understanding where OP's discomfort stems from. It stems from his coworkers expression of his gender identity -- i.e. a biological male dressing and moving as a woman.

In your example, a racist white person is not uncomfortable with a black person's expression of blackness, because you can't express blackness. You either are or you aren't. There's nothing that a black person would be able to do to make that white person feel comfortable. However, if OP's coworker showed up dressed as a typical man, what do you think would happen to his discomfort?

 

[Black Panther]

In your example, a racist white person is not uncomfortable with a black person's expression of blackness, because you can't express blackness. You either are or you aren't. There's nothing that a black person would be able to do to make that white person feel comfortable.

Eh...I disagree.

"Blackness" is not merely physical, it's cultural as well. Racism is not confined to simply thinking Black people are genetically/physically inferior. Most of the racism I've experienced had to do with my culture being treated as inferior because I refuse to conform to what makes white people feel comfortable.

At previous jobs I was approached in different ways just by how I wore my hair. Having a basic low cut and clean shave made me more approachable than having a beard and long hair with sponge twists.

Hell, dread head brehs still get all kinds of flack for how they express their cultural identity in the workplace.

 

[winb83]

You are unwittingly equating trans people with race because you're not understanding where OP's discomfort stems from. It stems from his coworkers expression of his gender identity -- i.e. a biological male dressing and moving as a woman.

In your example, a racist white person is not uncomfortable with a black person's expression of blackness, because you can't express blackness. You either are or you aren't. There's nothing that a black person would be able to do to make that white person feel comfortable. However, if OP's coworker showed up dressed as a typical man, what do you think would happen to his discomfort?

So the argument is bigotry and intolerance becomes justifiable if it targets aspects of a persons deemed controllable? He’s uncomfortable because this person doesn’t meet his standards for how people should be.

If I point at an obese person and say I’m uncomfortable with their expression of their gluttony does that make it ok because they don’t have to be obese?

Your argument only really makes sense to bigots. You’re effectively backwards rationalizing why bigotry that you approve of is ok while the type you don’t approve of isn’t. A fundamental part of that argument is that some of it is ok and it’s not the act itself but the target of the act that’s wrong.

 

[kdub83]

So your work and keep your mouth shut. This is an easy one OP.

 

[theoretic]

Eh...I disagree.

"Blackness" is not merely physical, it's cultural as well. Racism is not confined to simply thinking Black people are genetically/physically inferior. Most of the racism I've experienced had to do with my culture being treated as inferior because I refuse to conform to what makes white people feel comfortable.

At previous jobs I was approached in different ways just by how I wore my hair. Having a basic low cut and clean shave made me more approachable than having a beard and long hair with sponge twists.

Hell, dread head brehs still get all kinds of flack for how they express their cultural identity in the workplace.

It seemed like the poster I was replying to was speaking on a generic type of racism. But I agree that there's different levels and types of racism. The problem, though, is that trying to define what is and isn't culture is tricky. Still, I would argue that your hair would be considered an extension of you, and therefore different than the clothes you wear or how you present yourself to the public (beyond the hair).

My argument is that a biological male wearing pumps and a Hilary Clinton power suit because that is what s/he finds most comfortable is different than how you wear your hair. Would you disagree with that?

 

[theoretic]

So the argument is bigotry and intolerance becomes justifiable if it targets aspects of a persons deemed controllable? He’s uncomfortable because this person doesn’t meet his standards for how people should be.

If I point at an obese person and say I’m uncomfortable with their expression of their gluttony does that make it ok because they don’t have to be obese?

Your argument only really makes sense to bigots. You’re effectively backwards rationalizing why bigotry that you approve of is ok while the type you don’t approve of isn’t. A fundamental part of that argument is that some of it is ok and it’s not the act itself but the target of the act that’s wrong.

To the bolded... Generally speaking, yeah, I think the distinction between what a person can and can't control is an important one. And the further away you get from a person's essence and the things they can't control - skin color, eye color, height, etc - I don't really have a problem with someone being uncomfortable, annoyed, weirded out, put off, etc.

 

[Prince.Skeletor]

So the argument is bigotry and intolerance becomes justifiable if it targets aspects of a persons deemed controllable?

No that's your argument.

 

[I'm Blackman]

I hate trannies but I will deal with them in a professional manner at work..(while trying to hold in my laughter)

Tranny gonna fukk u in the ass.

You're thinking too much into it. Relax and keep your butthole tight.

Edit: Oh.....and don't look it in the eyes. They take it as a sign of aggression.

 

[winb83]

No that's your argument.

You are arguing that your intolerance of this person isn’t wrong and that it’s justifiable because they aren’t “normal”. My argument is your intolerance and discomfort with this person is wrong. In fact if you openly voiced this opinion at your job in front of them and everyone else you’d likely be out of a job.

You don’t like your co-workers then quit. Otherwise suck it up like adults do and do your job.

For the record I don’t approve of transsexual either. I’m just not self-absorbed to think that my opinion on what they do or who they are matters. If they aren’t hurting anyone they’re free to do them and don’t deserve to be the object of scorn for it.

 

[I'm Blackman]

Only took them 3 years to normalize this bullshyt with these new nikkas.

And a 100 of you weird nikkas dapped this

By the time these nikkas kids come of age, they’ll be primed to embrace beastiality and pedophilia.

Things are right on schedule.

'transphobia' and 'homophobia' are just terms that are weaponized to force normal people into accepting homosexuality and transgenders.

these things are not normal and never will be.

This is gonna be the norm living in America, better get used to it Don’t let it stop you from getting that bread though.

Wow this thread is a mess. Op can literally be called into HR at anytime for saying he, the correct term, about a burly ass man in a dress and lipliner. Of course he's uncomfortable.

Y'all keep accusing him of wanting to fukk.
So in these situations are you saying the issue is the other women and girls want to fukk?




How can you not understand that having to tiptoe around someone exhibiting severe mental illness, that is being supported by your employer, might be a bit stressful

I wonder what the coli brehettes make of this.

also, never thought I’d read the sentence “you’re a transphobic p*ssy dude” on the Coli. +100 daps too.

Times are changing.

Trannies are literally mentally ill so maybe try some compassion and understand that person is probably tortured inside. I talk shyt on fags and mentally ill fags as much as the next cis gendered supremacist, but you have to get over this one my guy.

Coli going soft on trans

I never thought I would see it

truth. I agree with all of this.

 

[Prince.Skeletor]

You are arguing that your intolerance of this person isn’t wrong and that it’s justifiable because they aren’t “normal”.

Nope, that's your argument

My argument is I will define your stated discomfort as intolerance and thereafter incorrectly categorize it as bigotry.
I will completely circumvent having to debate with you that it is justifiable for me to equate your discomfort with bigotry. I will completely bypass that step.
Also you only used the word discomfort, but I will never use that word when replying to you and quoting you, I will only use the words intolerance and bigotry and attack from that starting point despite the fact that a mere feeling of discomfort cannot be considered as bigotry.

Fixed