Man if they don't give the MVP to Kawhi

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His progression is the most I ever seen in a player, at least offensively. No weakness in his game, maybe if you nitpick maybe his handle which is above average anyway...
Tim Leger just said something similar on Sirius XM this morning....that if you HAD to nitpick on his game, it's that he could improve as a playmaker and increase his assists more. But like Legs pointed out, that's EXTREME nitpicking and if he never does that it's okay.

Also talked about how Kawhi's improved his scoring consistently every year, and his fg%, and his 3pt%, and THEN this cat shoots 90% from the charity.

Personally, I always thought Paul George was gonna be what Kawhi is now, too bad injuries robbed him of that chance.
 

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But I WILL say this....I can't stand the whole "in the moment dikkrider" sensibility that permeates all parts of society and, thus, also sports. These "what have you done for me lately" ass people today have the attention spans of TODDLERS. They forget news that happened last MONTH, let alone last year (that's also why they're so easily manipulated, but we'll save that convo for another thread...)

So for people to say that ONE block suddenly derails Harden's MVP chances is pretty short-sighted and highlights the aforementioned problem with our society.

And I don't even LIKE James Harden (even though I have come to give him his proper due this season, otherwise I would be intellectually dishonest as a basketball fan), my personal MVP is :youngsabo:. But this overly-reactionary response syndrome shyt is lame.
 

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Tim Leger just said something similar on Sirius XM this morning....that if you HAD to nitpick on his game, it's that he could improve as a playmaker and increase his assists more. But like Legs pointed out, that's EXTREME nitpicking and if he never does that it's okay.

Also talked about how Kawhi's improved his scoring consistently every year, and his fg%, and his 3pt%, and THEN this cat shoots 90% from the charity.

Personally, I always thought Paul George was gonna be what Kawhi is now, too bad injuries robbed him of that chance.

I don't think injuries robbed Paul George, he just likes to coast during the regular season. He always turns up his level of play in the playoffs.

I think the difference between them is work ethic and I don't say that as a knock on George. Kawhi is one of the hardest working players in the NBA. I also think if you put George on the Spurs from the start of his career to present he'd be a much better/more consistent player than he is now.
 

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I think Draymond or Gobert is going to win DPOY. But Kawhi has a legit shot at both. It's kind of cool that the DPOY is not really going to defensive specialists lately, but two-way players.
 

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But I WILL say this....I can't stand the whole "in the moment dikkrider" sensibility that permeates all parts of society and, thus, also sports. These "what have you done for me lately" ass people today have the attention spans of TODDLERS. They forget news that happened last MONTH, let alone last year (that's also why they're so easily manipulated, but we'll save that convo for another thread...)

So for people to say that ONE block suddenly derails Harden's MVP chances is pretty short-sighted and highlights the aforementioned problem with our society.

And I don't even LIKE James Harden (even though I have come to give him his proper due this season, otherwise I would be intellectually dishonest as a basketball fan), my personal MVP is :youngsabo:. But this overly-reactionary response syndrome shyt is lame.
This aint no in the moment shyt though. Kawhi has been that great these last 3 months. His MVP push is deserved and he's earned this buzz

This stretch of games in March so far just finally got people seriously paying attention

Kawhi coming for that ass
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Just a question. Should the Spurs have giving up Danny green and some other scrubs for Demarcus cousins? You know, since the kings were giving him away for anything. The only way I believe the Spurs could even beat a warriors team in the playoffs is if a another superstar steps on that court
 

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I was on Kawhi bandwagon a few weeks before everyone.

:russ: Just realized what you did

I'm talking about LeBron at his peak as a defender, he most certainly isn't in the conversation with Draymond when it comes to versatility. Very few players in the history of the game are in the conversation with him - LeBron isn't one of them.

LeBron wasn't clamping "speedy little guards" like that because he was typically guarding wings and didn't ever have a revolving defensive role like Draymond has had over the last 2-3 seasons, you can stop with the revisionism. Draymond can literally guard just about every single type of offensive player, from the likes of Kyrie Irving all the way to Marc Gasol with regularity. He's elite at practically every single aspect of defensive play. While LeBron was strong in most areas, he still didn't have the workload and responsibility that Draymond has, which is part the fact he had a bigger offensive workload to carry, and part because his ability as an overall defender doesn't quite match up with Draymond's.

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LeBron's career-high in blocks - 1.1 per game (and that was in Cleveland in '08 and '09). His block averages in Miami were: 0.6, 0.8, 0.9 and 0.3.

Draymond's career-high in blocks - 1.4 per game (he's done that this season and last season). His block averages over the last three years: 1.4, 1.4, 1.3.

Draymond is not only a considerably better rim protector and paint anchor, but he's one of the best in the league and has been for the last 2-3 seasons (something that LeBron can't claim at any point of his career).

This season:

#3= in contested shots - 14.1 per game (tied with Gobert)
#2 in deflections - 4.1 per game (only .1 behind Covington)

No player ranks in the top-5 for both areas, as the top players in contested shots are mostly big men and the top players in deflections are mostly guards/wings.

He defends the second most attempts per game (only .3 behind Porzingis) - holdng opponents to -5.7% under their usual FG% - the only player that comes close is Gobert (-5.8%)

He holds opponents to -12.3% under their usual FG% near the rim/paint (6ft and less) - to put that into perspective it's a similar rate to Gobert (-13%), Porzingis (-13.1%) and Whiteside (-12.5%)

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Ultimately that's what makes this "not even close", is Draymond's ability to anchor the paint at an elite level (and all the roles that come with that) and effectively guard any type of big men - no matter the size.

I don't know why I need to keep posting these (I thought everybody would've seen them by now, quite obviously not).

Last season:

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Dap + Rep....incredible information.
 

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I watched his last few games.
It's unreal what he is doing. He is the sole reason that team is winning. He owns that defense and offense. He would be th best player outside of lebron and I been riding w Westbrook all year
 
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