Man of Steel (2013)

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That post is junk. The movie is told out of order.

He’s not saving people because it’s right. He’s hiding cause he doesn’t know who he is.His father’s death didn’t clarify who he was, it sent him deeper into despair.

The movie muddles its own message.

Why does he go to a priest for advice? Who is this vs Pete or any of the other people he has saved. As has been said multiple times in this thread, the people who should be helping him decide(his parents) confuse him.

Jor-el says he wants Clark to have a choice but then hands him and suit and a mission.
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I feel like you have to intentionally want to see it that way to come to that conclusion. I have seen the movie several times and read the novelization and I just don't know how some of y'all think Clark doesn't care about people

Another post in that thread mentions something about his Clark's father.
 
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I feel like you have to intentionally want to see it that way to come to that conclusion. I have seen the movie several times and read the novelization and I just don't know how some of y'all think Clark doesn't care about people

Another post in that thread mentions something about his Clark's father.
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I didn’t say care about people. I said he’s not doing it because it’s right. That’s the entire conflict Jon imparts on him. Doing what’s right shouldn’t be his only consideration.

How can you say I want to see it that way because I want then quote a post saying “Jon didn’t know what to say”?

You need to separate helping people with being Superman. If helping people is what he wants to do then a helpful parent will try and balance both his identity with what he wants which is where we could see him guiding him to a job in journalism or even a firefighter.

The fact Jon’s death sent him on such a spiral is directly because he has no grounding philosophy. Jor-el gave him the philosophy(stumble fall speech) but that is at odds with the entire point of his birth being Kryptonians shouldn’t have assigned roles message the movie established.

I don’t mind Snyder taking the task of adding new dynamics of the path to Superman but he got lost on the way and didn’t know how to get back on path.
 
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I didn’t say care about people. I said he’s not doing it because it’s right. That’s the entire conflict Jon imparts on him. Doing what’s right shouldn’t be his only consideration.

How can you say I want to see it that way because I want then quote a post saying “Jon didn’t know what to say”?

You need to separate helping people with being Superman. If helping people is what he wants to do then a helpful parent will try and balance both his identity with what he wants which is where we could see him guiding him to a job in journalism or even a firefighter.

The fact Jon’s death sent him on such a spiral is directly because he has no grounding philosophy. Jor-el gave him the philosophy(stumble fall speech) but that is at odds with the entire point of his birth being Kryptonians shouldn’t have assigned roles message the movie established.

I don’t mind Snyder taking the task of adding new dynamics of the path to Superman but he got lost on the way and didn’t know how to get back on path.
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If that's how you want to see it. You seem that you have your mind cemented :manny: .
 
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