Manchin announces support for Gorsuch

[ineedsleep212]

but but but we need him.

 

[LHilla]

Not surprised at all. Him and Heidikamp(sp?).

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

but but but we need him.

if you primary him, you get a staunch republican.

 

[ineedsleep212]

if you primary him, you get a staunch republican.

all he does is undermine any Democratic cause.

If hes truly represents the people there, they will vote for him. I don't get this opposition to primaries.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

all he does is undermine any Democratic cause.

If hes truly represents the people there, they will vote for him. I don't get this opposition to primaries.

Listen.

I don't know why I have to explain this to you.

Other people vote too.

WV is not a liberal state.

It gets democrat voters because they're working class people.

But these are not liberals.

If you go more "left" than Manchin, you lose any center leverage Manchin straddles with his voters.

The goal is to get, and maintain leverage.

Every election is not a time to make gambles. Its a time to secure sure wins.

Don't primary him. Ignore him, count him when necessary as a vote, and keep it pushing.

And lets be honest. Gorsuch is getting on the SCOTUS. He is a republican in a republican congress.

it is, what it is.

You all shouldn't have spent your time bytching about HIllary and we would have this discussion.

Deal with it.

The goal is removing trump. You will, however, have a republican congress for the next 2-4 years.

 

[FAH1223]

They still won't get 60 votes

Filibuster is gone

 

[Darth Nubian]

Listen.

I don't know why I have to explain this to you.

Other people vote too.

WV is not a liberal state.

It gets democrat voters because they're working class people.

But these are not liberals.

If you go more "left" than Manchin, you lose any center leverage Manchin straddles with his voters.

The goal is to get, and maintain leverage.

Every election is not a time to make gambles. Its a time to secure sure wins.

Don't primary him. Ignore him, count him when necessary as a vote, and keep it pushing.

And lets be honest. Gorsuch is getting on the SCOTUS. He is a republican in a republican congress.

it is, what it is.

You all shouldn't have spent your time bytching about HIllary and we would have this discussion.

Deal with it.

The goal is removing trump. You will, however, have a republican congress for the next 2-4 years.

Manchin doesn't have any leverage with his voters. He isn't even a reliable Dem vote any more. What crucial legislation is he going to vote with the Dems on? He is only a Dem because the Repub party in WV won't allow him to change affiliation.

 

[Scoop]

all he does is undermine any Democratic cause.

If hes truly represents the people there, they will vote for him. I don't get this opposition to primaries.

Manchin doesn't have any leverage with his voters. He isn't even a reliable Dem vote any more. What crucial legislation is he going to vote with the Dems on? He is only a Dem because the Repub party in WV won't allow him to change affiliation.

Not true at all.

It's news when he votes against Dems, you never hear about all the votes when he votes with Dems though.

Manchin was against the healthcare bill, Betsy Devos, the Planned Parenthood bill that passed the senate today 51-50 etc.

 

[BillBanneker]

but but but we need him.

diet republican republican

:kobehaha:

 

[dtownreppin214]

Listen.

I don't know why I have to explain this to you.

Other people vote too.

WV is not a liberal state.

It gets democrat voters because they're working class people.

But these are not liberals.

If you go more "left" than Manchin, you lose any center leverage Manchin straddles with his voters.

The goal is to get, and maintain leverage.

Every election is not a time to make gambles. Its a time to secure sure wins.

Don't primary him. Ignore him, count him when necessary as a vote, and keep it pushing.

And lets be honest. Gorsuch is getting on the SCOTUS. He is a republican in a republican congress.

it is, what it is.

You all shouldn't have spent your time bytching about HIllary and we would have this discussion.

Deal with it.

The goal is removing trump. You will, however, have a republican congress for the next 2-4 years.

This.

They still won't get 60 votes

Filibuster is gone

And this.

Some of you don't understand politics.

Manchin has enough cover from other Dems to vote this way. Dems don't need Manchin to stop this temporarily.

 

[Zee Scribe]

This.

And this.

Some of you don't understand politics.

Manchin has enough cover from other Dems to vote this way. Dems don't need Manchin to stop this temporarily.

That's not the point. The question is why the fukk would he even need cover? He could easily spin this as not supporting the pick because of dude's pro-corporate views. I'm pretty sure him voting against defunding Planned Parenthood is more troubling to conservative voters in WV than this.

 

[Darth Nubian]

Not true at all.

It's news when he votes against Dems, you never hear about all the votes when he votes with Dems though.

Manchin was against the healthcare bill, Betsy Devos, the Planned Parenthood bill that passed the senate today 51-50 etc.

Health care bill wasn't going anywhere in the senate. Dems don't have the numbers to block any vote in the Senate since Pence can tie break which lets Repubs change the game up for Senators from moderate states like R-Collins from Maine. Manchin is playing both sides of the field when convenient. The fact that this thread even exists suggest that he is suspect.

 

[ineedsleep212]

Get a Supreme Court pick stolen from the opposing party and vote for em bruhs.

 

[Wargames]

I still think Mitch don't want to nuke that Fillibuster..... cause if they do they are going to have to sign off on a lot of fukkery from the house that will haunt them in a few years when they have to go for re-election themselves

 

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