MANNIE FRESH VS SCOTT STORCH - TONIGHT - 9PM EST!!!!

[JustCKing]

how so

Yall approaching this like it's someone taking credit for another's verse/bars

Picking apart this battle the way yall are right now would qualify a large percentage of our jazz (the original music) legends as frauds.

If Stanley Clarke or Lee Ritenour had a battle and played tracks from Return To Forever and Fourplay respectively during their set, there would be no qualms at all

I'm saying he gets too much credit, because people tend to attribute all credit to Scott Storch when that wasn't the case. Those strings aren't Storch. Those drums aren't Storch. The other keys on the song aren't Storch. The song wasn't the brain child of Storch. Yes, he contributed the main piano keys we hear on the song, but "Still Dre" isn't a Scott Storch beat. I'm not saying he shouldn't have played it. I mean, he contributed to it.

 

[WSFGDan]

look at those clowns on hot97 they don’t even recognize any of the beats from 400degreez except ha and back that ass up

wasn't big in NY, it was regional

 

[Razzay]

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

Mannie is very talented and easily New Orleans’s best.. but this was regional vs global.

WTF???

theres nothing regional about a mannie fresh beat.

its not regional vs. global.
ITS CULTURAL VS. CROSSOVER.

wasn't big in NY, it was regional

WTF

you dudes gotta stop rewriting history.

The nikka shouldn’t have accepted the challenge. Like I said. He would get exposed by Just Blaze as well. Because his main issue is he was stuck as an in house producer. Didn’t really get to branch out. Which is a shame but it is what it is.

what is there to expose about mannie fresh?? I don't get that.

mannie destroys scott storch in a battle in front of a live urban crowd.

just blaze was basically an in-house producer as well. and unlike mannie, he actually had the green light to branch out but didn't go far.
KLC >>> just blaze, and we saw how mannie beat KLC. only way just blaze beats mannie is if its a biased east coast crowd.

This.

What's crazy is that you have people who will discredit Timbo and The Neptunes for making radio joints, but they also have their street joints. A lot of the producers who get propped over them are unable to do BOTH. Like The Neptunes can do hard joints for The Clipse and then turn around give Nelly a "Hot In Herre". Timbaland can lace Jay Z with "Come And Get Me" or a "It's Hot" and turn around give him one of his biggest songs in "Big Pimpin".

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LOL @ THE BOLDED.

FOR THE UMPTEENTH TIME, im not dissing anybody for making radio joints or r&b joints, or even pop joints. im not trying to pigeonhold anyone

my criticism stems from the fact that people lean on that stuff as a way to boost their rank, while ignoring how they failed to check the most important boxes.

to the neptunes credit, they checked more boxes with the clipse/star trak stuff, but they never produced anything definitive, and the fact that they produced a heap of trash tends to cancel out a lot of the good stuff.

This nikkas feelings hurt

what the hell are you talking about??

str8 weirdo.​

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[JustCKing]

my criticism stems from the fact that people lean on that stuff as a way to boost their rank, while ignoring how they failed to check the most important boxes.

to the neptunes credit, they checked more boxes with the clipse/star trak stuff, but they never produced anything definitive, and the fact that they produced a heap of trash tends to cancel out a lot of the good stuff.

Who is leaning on that to boost their rankings? They are ranked, because Timbaland and The Neptunes have both produced music that has impacted and influenced culture with their Hip Hop songs.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

 

[Flawdaboi]

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

the hot 97 morning crew is so corny.

that chit is just scust.

Who is leaning on that to boost their rankings? They are ranked, because Timbaland and The Neptunes have both produced music that has impacted and influenced culture with their Hip Hop songs.

youre one of those leaners actually.

and you know dam well that their hip-hop catalogs alone aint strong enough for the distinctions that they get.

 

[JustCKing]

the hot 97 morning crew is so corny.

that chit is just scust.





youre one of those leaners actually.

and you know dam well that their hip-hop catalogs alone aint strong enough for the distinctions that they get.

the hot 97 morning crew is so corny.

that chit is just scust.





youre one of those leaners actually.

and you know dam well that their hip-hop catalogs alone aint strong enough for the distinctions that they get.

No I'm not one of those "leaners". I rank them in a Top 10 based on what they have contributed to Hip Hop, their impact, and influence sonically over the past three decades.

Literally, to anyone who copped albums and studied credits over the past few decades knows that The Neptunes and Timbaland was on every major Hip Hop album. Those joints were anticipated. People actually went out and copped a Bubba Sparxxx and Petey Pablo album because they had Timbo joints that were in heavy rotation on radio and tv. Careers were saved with their productions. Lil' Kim was down for the count after her sophomore album and that song from Moulin Rouge. "Jump Off" put her back on the radar. Fabolous was off the scene for three years and returned with the Timbo produced "Make Me Better". When Jadakiss needed something that was hard enough for the streets, but was serviceable to the clubs, he dropped "Knock Yourself Out". The Neptunes reinvented Snoop's sound. Timbaland and The Neptunes were the definitive sound of Hip Hop for like a decade. Virginia, sonically, ruled Hip Hop. Producers were trying to emulate "Grindin" or were going through crates for Bollywood records to sample after "Big Pimpin" and "Get Ur Freak On". They marked an era of big budget Hip Hop and an era where rap records didn't sound regional. They redefined what it was to be a super producer. Before them, super producers rarely stepped outside their region. With Timbaland and The Neptunes, they were lacing rappers from all over with a sound that sounded nothing like the region those artists represented.

 

[dubsmith_nz]

Finally got a chance to listen to this, Storch had this for me - but that comes down to my taste. It was a strange battle to be honest, Storch has a whole bunch of cross genre, legitimate top 40 hits he has made on his own and with other producers from a wide variety of artists.

Mannie has a very regional sound and was mostly limited to one stable of artists with what, 4 songs that have reached the top 40? Two very different producers so it all comes down to personal preference.

I got Scott though

 

[letti cook]

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[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

No I'm not one of those "leaners". I rank them in a Top 10 based on what they have contributed to Hip Hop, their impact, and influence sonically over the past three decades.

Literally, to anyone who copped albums and studied credits over the past few decades knows that The Neptunes and Timbaland was on every major Hip Hop album. Those joints were anticipated. People actually went out and copped a Bubba Sparxxx and Petey Pablo album because they had Timbo joints that were in heavy rotation on radio and tv. Careers were saved with their productions. Lil' Kim was down for the count after her sophomore album and that song from Moulin Rouge. "Jump Off" put her back on the radar. Fabolous was off the scene for three years and returned with the Timbo produced "Make Me Better". When Jadakiss needed something that was hard enough for the streets, but was serviceable to the clubs, he dropped "Knock Yourself Out". The Neptunes reinvented Snoop's sound. Timbaland and The Neptunes were the definitive sound of Hip Hop for like a decade. Virginia, sonically, ruled Hip Hop. Producers were trying to emulate "Grindin" or were going through crates for Bollywood records to sample after "Big Pimpin" and "Get Ur Freak On". They marked an era of big budget Hip Hop and an era where rap records didn't sound regional. They redefined what it was to be a super producer. Before them, super producers rarely stepped outside their region. With Timbaland and The Neptunes, they were lacing rappers from all over with a sound that sounded nothing like the region those artists represented.

youre reaching for the stars.

only good point you made was the last statement, but even that is null & void seeing that theyre from virginia. theyre supposed to be coast-less.

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

WTF???

front of a live urban crowd.



just blaze was basically an in-house producer as well. and unlike mannie, he actually had the green light to branch out but didn't go far.

KLC >>> just blaze,

pure lies. dude said Just Blaze didn't branch out

i gotta hand it to you for being a master P stan since sohh but you are one delusional fanboy

 

[Buckeye Fever]

"I Got That Fire" is one of my favorite Mannie Fresh beats

 

[JustCKing]

youre reaching for the stars.

only good point you made was the last statement, but even that is null & void seeing that theyre from virginia. theyre supposed to be coast-less.

Only in your mind is facts reaching for the stars.

Virginia is Coast less? LOL. Bink!, Nottz, and Lex Luger would like to have a word with you. All of them have a style that is specific to a region. You hear a Bink! production and it sounds like soulful East Coast production even the music he did for Rick Ross. Nottz is East Coast heavy. Lex Luger is Southern based. Most of Timbaland and The Neptunes production (especially their signature sound) sounds nothing like any particular region.