Manny Pacquiao and Brandon Rios Visit ESPN's First Take (Full Video)

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Was that the only time he got dropped by JMM, he got knocked halfway across the ring from a wide overhand right lead

Here is a one gif for you also


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Do I need to post more gifs, they had 4 fights, there were many instances in the first 3 where Manny should have been ko'ed, he just had a granite chin, he doesnt posses that anymore unfortunately IMO, and Rios aint the fighter to stick Manny in the ring with to see if he still has that heart/chin and determination, because Rios will test it and try to smash it in


Edit: One more Gif for good measure the same exact shot that knocked him, across the ring and on his ass in round 3

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Great post. We clearly see Marquez land a similar shot on Pac in the previous fights that he did in their 4th fight. The main difference between then and now? The juice Marquez was on for their 4th fight. Why you think he trynna get out of USADA/VADA testing for the Bradley fight? Cuz their testing is stringent. Mind you Bradley already said that SEVEN WEEKS have past by from when the testing was supposed to start and it STILL hasnt. Marquez somewhere weening off that juice so that when the testing does start its at small trace amounts in his system. Of course when Pac wanted the fifth fight, Marquez wanted it in Mexico and wanted mucho $- Arum confirmed it would be in Mexico and gave him the $ he asked for. But when Pac asked for full OST, Marquez shut it down. Connect the dots bruhs.
 

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Great post. We clearly see Marquez land a similar shot on Pac in the previous fights that he did in their 4th fight. The main difference between then and now? The juice Marquez was on for their 4th fight. Why you think he trynna get out of USADA/VADA testing for the Bradley fight? Cuz their testing is stringent. Mind you Bradley already said that SEVEN WEEKS have past by from when the testing was supposed to start and it STILL hasnt. Marquez somewhere weening off that juice so that when the testing does start its at small trace amounts in his system. Of course when Pac wanted the fifth fight, Marquez wanted it in Mexico and wanted mucho $- Arum confirmed it would be in Mexico and gave him the $ he asked for. But when Pac asked for full OST, Marquez shut it down. Connect the dots bruhs.
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I Knew it was coming, truthfully I cant even defend JMM on this one, regardless of the facts Manny's granite is cracked, and JMM is the one who did it
 

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I hope we get a hungry manny again. It feels like he's not as hungry as he once was, hopefully that knock out by marquez will make him come back with a vengeance. If not, hang it up manny, you had a good run but you're done. I think at this point its all about his mindset and attitude. If he doesn't give it his 110% he's done
 

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I hope we get a hungry manny again. It feels like he's not as hungry as he once was, hopefully that knock out by marquez will make him come back with a vengeance. If not, hang it up manny, you had a good run but you're done. I think at this point its all about his mindset and attitude. If he doesn't give it his 110% he's done
Fighting a Rios doesnt get Manny up to battle at this point, Manny sees Rios as another fighter with the legends hes faced, shyt fighting his nemesis a 3rd and 4th time didnt make Manny start training and stop half assing it, he's already looking past Rios, havent he learned he learned from those same things recently. Him fighting over matched opponents has made him believe his own hype, he still cant grasp this reality after getting slept. He aint mentally there, his fire is burnt out and he's a lost cause at this point.

Manny needed a Floyd fight like about a year/ a year and half ago, someone that he feared; a fight where he could channel that nervous energy against a fighter at a level higher than he is, to train and bring out his best. Arum has done his fighter a disservice by allowing him to face hand picked opponents. Roach by allowing him to train when he want disregarding Ariza's(Now firing him) advice and letting Buboy fat ass train Manny is complicit in this disservice also. Team Manny has picked the wrong fighter to cherry pick, a relentless fighter with nothing to lose coming off a loss and everything to gain, a fighter that wont fold......
 

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Manny wasnt the same fighter post Margarito breh he's shot, Manny would of laughed of those shots that JMM dropped him with, Rios is an elite level in fighter despite his flaws who will sit in his grill and punch back, not sit there covering up for mercy while Manny send bombs away, Rios will smile eat those and unleash his. Expect Manny to be overwhelmed with Rios ability to cut off the ring and close distance popping his head back constantly with uppercuts, and overhands some of Rios best shots and shots Manny has shown a inability to defend.............................

Throughout Manny career he has shown he has no defense for someone that chooses to cut off the ring and sit in his grill winging bombs, flashes of this was evident during the Bradley, Margrito,Clottley and Cotto matches, not to mention the fights he actually lost the Morales fights and JMM fights, he doesnt like in fighting and he doesnt like counter punchers, those who displayed a combination of both gave him the most issues, given that Rios will turn to a ugly grueling in fighting fest, nothing is giving, Rios is no walkover, Manny couldnt even walk over pillowfisted Bradley like a unproven Prov did. As someone who wants to see Manny succeed this is a horrible match for him, it made me cringe thinking of it, and Manny cherry picking on a fighter coming off a loss will catch up to him here IMO.

But you're not explaining how Rios will do this based on how he fights. You're making a comparison to one of the era's greats (JMM). Again, I think it comes down to whether or not you think Pacquiao is done as a fighter and or you simply don't like him. Based on Pacquiao's history against fighters who are come forward fighters like Rios, he eats those guys up (and Margarito even when he fought him was a much more dangerous fighter that what Manny will face in Novemeber). Rios is coming off 3 fights in which 2 of them he looked horrible / average. So as a Boxing fan looking at both fighters, beyond the notion that Manny could be past it or done, what has Rios showed that Manny hasn't dealt with or seen that he's on the verge of being taken out?
 

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But you're not explaining how Rios will do this based on how he fights. You're making a comparison to one of the era's greats (JMM). Again, I think it comes down to whether or not you think Pacquiao is done as a fighter and or you simply don't like him. Based on Pacquiao's history against fighters who are come forward fighters like Rios, he eats those guys up (and Margarito even when he fought him was a much more dangerous fighter that what Manny will face in Novemeber). Rios is coming off 3 fights in which 2 of them he looked horrible / average. So as a Boxing fan looking at both fighters, beyond the notion that Manny could be past it or done, what has Rios showed that Manny hasn't dealt with or seen that he's on the verge of being taken out?
JMM aint all that great he did go life and death with a pillow fisted Diaz and dropped, and Mike Katsidis another c class gave him all hell and dropped him also, JMM is just a fighter with selective as fukk opponent selection and Manny's number................shyt shot Barrera with a metal plate in his head gave JMM a boxing lesson and dropped him before Barrera lost focus after he snuffed JMM when he was on the mat after he dropped him

And I'm not comparing Rios to anyone, I'm assessing the fight on how Manny looked Post Margarito, he made a Sugar shane with a Achilles injury look like Sweat Pea, lost 10 rounds to near 40 JMM an received a gift, Bradley gave him all hell a Bradley who an unproven Prov gave one of the worst ass whippings I seen a elite fighter take, and then he got dropped and slept by JMM. Manny Decline has been very rapid his fanatics cant seem to grasp that, he's ripe for the taking against a relentless fighter who probably wakes up thinking about getting into slugfest, and a fighter that wont fold, has amazing recovery skills, and is almost impossible to drop and a slugfest it will be. Manny is already talking him feeling pressure and he has something to prove in other words more dummy fighting from him

I just never saw this as a good match, he should have fought Alvarado a easier touch than Rios(styles), but his team aint even trust him to win that type of match...........:manny:
 

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No it's not nikkas need to stop with that shyt, outside from counter punching and beating Manny easily, standing in the pocket and fighting back is another way to beat Manny, Rios is no pushover he wont fold, people saying the fight will be another Margarito match is delusional, straight playing stupid acting like slow ass one dimensional AM hit a Prime Manny 229 times nearly dropped him and forced him to go on his bicycle in the later rounds, not to mention that after Margarito it was evident that Manny dropped a few levels, he was shot, he had a 40 year old Mosley with a Achilles injury looking like Pernell Whitaker, then took what should have been 3 l's. Is Manny ready to be in a war after losing 3(miss me with that 3rd JMM debacle) straight matches, being slept in his last, and inactivity to boot...........
although i agree that he shoulda lost that 3rd marquez fight,it's corny that you'll bring that up without admitting he should have won the bradley fight
 

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Manny has took many L's you know..............................

He doesnt like counterpunchers, and people would fight him back infighting(sitting duck for overhand rights and uppercuts), these things have been shown time and time again

Not really.
 

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Great post. We clearly see Marquez land a similar shot on Pac in the previous fights that he did in their 4th fight. The main difference between then and now? The juice Marquez was on for their 4th fight. Why you think he trynna get out of USADA/VADA testing for the Bradley fight? Cuz their testing is stringent. Mind you Bradley already said that SEVEN WEEKS have past by from when the testing was supposed to start and it STILL hasnt. Marquez somewhere weening off that juice so that when the testing does start its at small trace amounts in his system. Of course when Pac wanted the fifth fight, Marquez wanted it in Mexico and wanted mucho $- Arum confirmed it would be in Mexico and gave him the $ he asked for. But when Pac asked for full OST, Marquez shut it down. Connect the dots bruhs.
marquez said before the fight that he was training for strength
i'm not saying whether marquez was on it or not
cause i don't no or care cause pacquaio been cheating
but why do ppl act like it's impossible for a professional athlete to focus on strength in a training camp and become stronger?
i no regular joes who are skin and bones and after 2 months of working out are deezed
there are ways to get stronger without PED
especially when your body is used to intense training and especially when you fighting a sloppy fighter like pacquaio.
marquez is ducking testing for bradley supposely then why was it him who suggested Random testing for the 4th pacquaio fight and got turned down?
the first knock down is debatable but steroids or not, pacquaio woulda been out cold from the knockout punch. He ran full speed with his hands down and got hit with a punch he never saw coming
thats knocking out anyone.

fukk a rematch, if pacquaio knocked out marquez there would be no 5th fight
 

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I agree with @Skip b on the fact Rios is gonna be a tougher fight than expected for Pacquiao and will let us know if Pac is done or back:yeshrug:

Rios is similar to Margs except he's faster and Pac is older. It's a dangerous fight and if I was Arum, I would have put Pacquiao against Alvarado instead, considering Rios could knock Pac out cold.....and it WONT be a lucky punch.

Arum is trying to cash out Pacquiao....hell, Pacquiao is trying to cash HIMSELF out it seems by agreeing to these type of fights back to back to back.

This fight is gonna be a good one and I salute Pac for taking the fight, but by firing Ariza (AGAIN) during training camp for another fight may end up being another foolish mistake. He did this before the JMM fight and lost......for his sake, hopefully results are different this time.

In the end, I'm picking Manny by KO in the 10th Round of a war, because I think he will overwhelm Rios with the speed and movement plus punching power.
 
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