"Manu Ginobili is the greatest foreign player to ever play in the NBA" - Doug Gottlieb

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the hakeem part of your clarification makes sense for obvious reasons, but duncan was born with american citizenship.
Duncan could have competed for the US Virgin Islands in the Olympics.

I know what you saying. You are right, but the way this sport does it, Duncan can technically be labeled an international player.
 

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The best...no...debatable...but no...

Most decorated...not even close...Manu is BY FAR the most accomplished foreign basketball player EVER...

Nba titles...4

Euroleague...1...more than that but it gets to convoluted on what is Euroleague and what is not Euroleague so...1...

Gold Medals...3

Silver Medals... 3

Bronze Medals...I think 1

The chances of any basketball player on the planet playing professionally as long as manu winning in as many leagues as Manu and winning as many medals as Manu is right around fukking 0...

Probably the 4th most influential guard in the nba of the last 50 years...I hear players say Manu was their favorite player growing up almost as much as I hear Kobe Jordan and Iverson...one of the godfarthers of the flop...popularized the euro step to the point you probably can't even play at the professional level without it...

Hakeem was better and Dirk was better...but neither one of those guys ever did anything special on an international stage while Manu did probably the most a player can possibly do on an international stage...
this is great, but Gottlieb's dumbass only mentioned as NBA players.

Shoot, Parker was a better NBA player than Ginobli.
 

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Duncan could have competed for the US Virgin Islands in the Olympics.

I know what you saying. You are right, but the way this sport does it, Duncan can technically be labeled an international player.
and carmelo could have competed for puerto rico in the olympics. shyt gets too convoluted when you start adding stipulations.
 

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The best...no...debatable...but no...

Most decorated...not even close...Manu is BY FAR the most accomplished foreign basketball player EVER...

Nba titles...4

Euroleague...1...more than that but it gets to convoluted on what is Euroleague and what is not Euroleague so...1...

Gold Medals...3

Silver Medals... 3

Bronze Medals...I think 1

The chances of any basketball player on the planet playing professionally as long as manu winning in as many leagues as Manu and winning as many medals as Manu is right around fukking 0...

Probably the 4th most influential guard in the nba of the last 50 years...I hear players say Manu was their favorite player growing up almost as much as I hear Kobe Jordan and Iverson...one of the godfarthers of the flop...popularized the euro step to the point you probably can't even play at the professional level without it...

Hakeem was better and Dirk was better...but neither one of those guys ever did anything special on an international stage while Manu did probably the most a player can possibly do on an international stage...
:ehh:A swagboy had to be the one to present the best argument :mjgrin:
 

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When Dirk won his MVP he was the first entirely foreign prospect to do it, because Hakeem spent 4 years at Houston (1 year redshirt freshman) developing his game.


Hakeem is the best foreign born player, but he's not a bi-product of foreign development.

I think tony parker's had a better career than manu. manu had harldy any elite years in the NBA. at least TP has a finals MVP and more all star appearances than manu.
 

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Dirk is better but Manu is more accomplished. People don't know the difference these days.
more accomplished? :dead:

do you measure the quantity or the quality of the accomplishments?

Dirk has regular season and finals mvp's, something that Manu ginbolli has never been able to achieve. It's the ultimate sign of a true superstar

Dirk will also go down as one of the greatest nba scorers ever. Manu is neither one of the greatest scorers nor one of the greatest defenders. He's like one of the greatest 6th man players :mjlol:

Manu has more championships playing for that great spurs franchise and he has that olympics gold medal, but there is a difference between alpha player and one of them pieces type of player
 

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I think tony parker's had a better career than manu. manu had harldy any elite years in the NBA. at least TP has a finals MVP and more all star appearances than manu.


Manu would have better numbers if he were a starter (or came over earlier), you gotta take his numbers with a grain of salt, especially since the only seasons where he started were his 3rd year in the league, and when he was 33 and no longer in his prime. His numbers as a starter during his prime years were nasty, but he didn't get that many.



Also, a lot of these young perimeter players loved Manu growing up, James Harden, D'Angelo Russell and more all modeled their games after his.
 
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