Man the Wakandians don’t really be fukking around.
When ol girl told Bucky (in the nicest but stern way) “not to come back to Wakanda for a while”
Even I was likeDAMN
Bucky for the time being done burnt that bridge
I told ya’ll he wasn’t going back
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I told ya’ll he wasn’t going back
I know the flag smashers are supposed to be this poetically righteous and tragic group but it's fukk them for me.
Just a bunch of globalist extremist kids with some superpowers running around wreaking havoc. Their fight is pointless and never going to realistically bear any fruit.
"One world, one people"
Even the wakandans understand that you're supposed to prioritize your own race of people and uphold your own culture. That kumbaya everybody across the world holding hand shyt isn't realistic. It's silly idealism
The thing is though, that for 5 years they did live in that kumbaya world. Then as soon as everyone came back they told those people to kick rocks. That's jacked up. Imagine that you never had shyt and never had hope of being shyt then you get 5 years of an actual life, then in a blink of an eye someone tells you go to back to being a blight on society.
I would argue that DD and JJ Season 1 are better than this show, budget for bells and whistles be dammed.
DD and WV are the pinnacle of Marvel TV this far IMO.
Maybe, but I'm looking at it from a real world perspective. If an extraterrestrial conqueror with a magical glove that can wipe out life forms on a universal scale came to play, then yeah. We might all come together then.
But in a world where everything is as it always has been, people are always going to be people.
It was fear and self preservation that had people close like they were.
Yeah this is what the mcu has failed to really show. Ppl were gone for five years, that’s enough time to move on and really start rebuilding shyt and life. Imagine all the couples that formed from grief, babies being born etc.
Then just as they disappeared mfers came back and shyt supposed to just go back like ppl weren’t living? You damn right there’s be terrorists and bodies dropping. You don’t give someone a new quality of life for five years and then say sorry time to go back lol
Json
Superstar
Once that adamantium hits them streets the price gonna plummet.
Ironman
#Knickstape
Json
Superstar
I don’t think the two are mutually exclusive.
imagine if half of New York population disappeared. Doctors, sanitation workers, electricians.
Some guy from a small village in Sierra Leone agrees to take up the job as an electrician or nurse.
Yeah they should have established that first through some sort of flashback. But maybe they thought that would lead to people having too much sympathy for them and justifying terrorism. Curious omission either way.
Gizmo_Duck
blathering blatherskite!
Whew that speech sam got..nice to see the black side speak up on the MCU cause i knew america was on some bullshyt with Steve rogers museums and shyt.
Cool to see Bucky and sam become actual friends. He was on his daredevil shyt at the end.
I never thought about how hard throwing that shield must be. I would be scared as hell trying to catch that shyt.
Cool to see Bucky and sam become actual friends. He was on his daredevil shyt at the end.
I never thought about how hard throwing that shield must be. I would be scared as hell trying to catch that shyt.
Now THIS was a damn good episode.
So glad Marvel didn’t p*ssy foot around Isaiah Bradley’s story. I only wish they would have made this season 8 episodes so that Isaiah’s flashback could have been its own episode and not a spoken montage. I would have LOVED to see that in real time.
I’m surprised the fact that John Walker taking the serum hasn’t come up amongst his wife or anyone else. I know he’d want to keep it a secret but I figured they show how the formula changed more of his personality than him just snapping and killing the terrorist. Damn near ANYONE would have done the same thing under similar circumstances if their best friend and close comrade had just been murdered. I wanted to see more of a psychological break to differentiate between the Serum Steve took and the obviously laced shyt John took.
John being discharged by the Army I felt was a LITTLE too soon. He’s their great white hope and its not like he killed some innocent kid or some shyt. He killed a TERRORIST who was just a minute earlier fighting to death with him. In real life he would definitely have been given leeway from the Government, especially as their newly christened Captain America. You COULD say that things have “changed” since the blip but that rang a little hollow to me.
Sam’s conversation with Isaiah was both heartbreaking and soooo fukking REAL. When he said that no self respecting black man would EVER want to called Captain America I felt that shyt in my soul, even though i’ve been rooting for Sam to take the mantle since those closing moments of Endgame, as soon as Isaiah uttered those words I almost felt like a c00n myself for even WANTING Sam to be the Red, White, and Blue ambassador. America has done NOTHING but shyt on black men since the formation of this country. Absolutely NOTHING but emasculate us down to lower than dogs. Sam thinks things have changed, but he couldn’t even get a fukking bank loan despite being recognized as one of the heroes who LITERALLY saved the entire fukking UNIVERSE. That shyt gave me mixed feelings about Sam and that Shield.
But seeing Bucky apologize to Sam and admit that his white privilege stopped both him AND Steve from understanding what a burden it would be on Sam was pretty cool. He even in so many words admitted that, like many white people do, he chose to view Sam taking on the mantle through his OWN narrative of redemption rather than see Sam as his own man. Bucky used Sam as a proxy for him still being good, when really he should have been proving that to HIMSELF this whole time. White people have a history of allowing what they’ve done for their black “friends” or co-workers to absolve them of their own guilt or culpability for White Supremacy. Bucky in way acknowledged that and when he handed Sam the Shield he wasn’t handing it to someone whom he felt he could use as proof of his own humanity, he was handing it to a MAN he saw as worthy of taking on the mantle. Thats a potentially powerful message.
Karli is kind of a weak character and I hope she dies next week. She can’t decide if she’s a full throttled terrorist or a scared kid, which just makes her annoying. The Flag Smashers overall are cool thematically but haven’t really made a mark as characters or villains. Baron Zemo probably would have made a better overall antagonist.
I KNEW Bucky’s ass was going to be ostracized from Wakanda. Posters were on here talking about Bucky was going back to Wakanda to be T’Challa’s bodyguard and fall in love with Ayo and shyt
Wakanda will STAY all black everything as it SHOULD be. Bucky gonna have to find his own place in the world.
Overall this episode was super entertaining. I wish they would’ve fleshed it out to 8 episodes because I feel like Karli definitely needs more development and that Isaiah’s story needed its own episode. But kudos for making something great with what they had
So glad Marvel didn’t p*ssy foot around Isaiah Bradley’s story. I only wish they would have made this season 8 episodes so that Isaiah’s flashback could have been its own episode and not a spoken montage. I would have LOVED to see that in real time.
I’m surprised the fact that John Walker taking the serum hasn’t come up amongst his wife or anyone else. I know he’d want to keep it a secret but I figured they show how the formula changed more of his personality than him just snapping and killing the terrorist. Damn near ANYONE would have done the same thing under similar circumstances if their best friend and close comrade had just been murdered. I wanted to see more of a psychological break to differentiate between the Serum Steve took and the obviously laced shyt John took.
John being discharged by the Army I felt was a LITTLE too soon. He’s their great white hope and its not like he killed some innocent kid or some shyt. He killed a TERRORIST who was just a minute earlier fighting to death with him. In real life he would definitely have been given leeway from the Government, especially as their newly christened Captain America. You COULD say that things have “changed” since the blip but that rang a little hollow to me.
Sam’s conversation with Isaiah was both heartbreaking and soooo fukking REAL. When he said that no self respecting black man would EVER want to called Captain America I felt that shyt in my soul, even though i’ve been rooting for Sam to take the mantle since those closing moments of Endgame, as soon as Isaiah uttered those words I almost felt like a c00n myself for even WANTING Sam to be the Red, White, and Blue ambassador. America has done NOTHING but shyt on black men since the formation of this country. Absolutely NOTHING but emasculate us down to lower than dogs. Sam thinks things have changed, but he couldn’t even get a fukking bank loan despite being recognized as one of the heroes who LITERALLY saved the entire fukking UNIVERSE. That shyt gave me mixed feelings about Sam and that Shield.
But seeing Bucky apologize to Sam and admit that his white privilege stopped both him AND Steve from understanding what a burden it would be on Sam was pretty cool. He even in so many words admitted that, like many white people do, he chose to view Sam taking on the mantle through his OWN narrative of redemption rather than see Sam as his own man. Bucky used Sam as a proxy for him still being good, when really he should have been proving that to HIMSELF this whole time. White people have a history of allowing what they’ve done for their black “friends” or co-workers to absolve them of their own guilt or culpability for White Supremacy. Bucky in way acknowledged that and when he handed Sam the Shield he wasn’t handing it to someone whom he felt he could use as proof of his own humanity, he was handing it to a MAN he saw as worthy of taking on the mantle. Thats a potentially powerful message.
Karli is kind of a weak character and I hope she dies next week. She can’t decide if she’s a full throttled terrorist or a scared kid, which just makes her annoying. The Flag Smashers overall are cool thematically but haven’t really made a mark as characters or villains. Baron Zemo probably would have made a better overall antagonist.
I KNEW Bucky’s ass was going to be ostracized from Wakanda. Posters were on here talking about Bucky was going back to Wakanda to be T’Challa’s bodyguard and fall in love with Ayo and shyt
Wakanda will STAY all black everything as it SHOULD be. Bucky gonna have to find his own place in the world. Overall this episode was super entertaining. I wish they would’ve fleshed it out to 8 episodes because I feel like Karli definitely needs more development and that Isaiah’s story needed its own episode. But kudos for making something great with what they had
Gizmo_Duck
blathering blatherskite!
Now THIS was a damn good episode.
So glad Marvel didn’t p*ssy foot around Isaiah Bradley’s story. I only wish they would have made this season 8 episodes so that Isaiah’s flashback could have been its own episode and not a spoken montage. I would have LOVED to see that in real time.
I’m surprised the fact that John Walker taking the serum hasn’t come up amongst his wife or anyone else. I know he’d want to keep it a secret but I figured they show how the formula changed more of his personality than him just snapping and killing the terrorist. Damn near ANYONE would have done the same thing under similar circumstances if their best friend and close comrade had just been murdered. I wanted to see more of a psychological break to differentiate between the Serum Steve took and the obviously laced shyt John took.
John being discharged by the Army I felt was a LITTLE too soon. He’s their great white hope and its not like he killed some innocent kid or some shyt. He killed a TERRORIST who was just a minute earlier fighting to death with him. In real life he would definitely have been given leeway from the Government, especially as their newly christened Captain America. You COULD say that things have “changed” since the blip but that rang a little hollow to me.
Sam’s conversation with Isaiah was both heartbreaking and soooo fukking REAL. When he said that no self respecting black man would EVER want to called Captain America I felt that shyt in my soul, even though i’ve been rooting for Sam to take the mantle since those closing moments of Endgame, as soon as Isaiah uttered those words I almost felt like a c00n myself for even WANTING Sam to be the Red, White, and Blue ambassador. America has done NOTHING but shyt on black men since the formation of this country. Absolutely NOTHING but emasculate us down to lower than dogs. Sam thinks things have changed, but he couldn’t even get a fukking bank loan despite being recognized as one of the heroes who LITERALLY saved the entire fukking UNIVERSE. That shyt gave me mixed feelings about Sam and that Shield.
But seeing Bucky apologize to Sam and admit that his white privilege stopped both him AND Steve from understanding what a burden it would be on Sam was pretty cool. He even in so many words admitted that, like many white people do, he chose to view Sam taking on the mantle through his OWN narrative of redemption rather than see Sam as his own man. Bucky used Sam as a proxy for him still being good, when really he should have been proving that to HIMSELF this whole time. White people have a history of allowing what they’ve done for their black “friends” or co-workers to absolve them of their own guilt or culpability for White Supremacy. Bucky in way acknowledged that and when he handed Sam the Shield he wasn’t handing it to someone whom he felt he could use as proof of his own humanity, he was handing it to a MAN he saw as worthy of taking on the mantle. Thats a potentially powerful message.
Karli is kind of a weak character and I hope she dies next week. She can’t decide if she’s a full throttled terrorist or a scared kid, which just makes her annoying. The Flag Smashers overall are cool thematically but haven’t really made a mark as characters or villains. Baron Zemo probably would have made a better overall antagonist.
I KNEW Bucky’s ass was going to be ostracized from Wakanda. Posters were on here talking about Bucky was going back to Wakanda to be T’Challa’s bodyguard and fall in love with Ayo and shyt
Overall this episode was super entertaining. I wish they would’ve fleshed it out to 8 episodes because I feel like Karli definitely needs more development and that Isaiah’s story needed its own episode. But kudos for making something great with what they had
At least the episodes are longer
that little 15-18 minute shyt of wandavision wasn’t cuttin it
Excuse my ignorance cause I'm haven't skimmed through the thread yet and I don't do the whole "this a c00n, that a c00n" thing on here but did Isaiah call Sam a c00n for trying to being the next Cap?
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Isiah: any Black man that wanna be Cap is
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He looked him in the eye and told him no self respecting black man would EVER willingly want to be Captain America