Mass. leads country in students passing AP exams & has double digit increase in Black students taking AP courses

[BigMan]

I'm curious to know which black population is fueling the increase.

In Massachusetts? Haitians and West Africans

 

[HarlemHottie]

In Massachusetts? Haitians and West Africans

Not Cape Verdeans? We used to spend a lot of time up there, plus I met a bunch of Boston Cape Verdeans in college. They seem(ed) upwardly mobile.

 

[Dr. Acula]

How is Mass?

 

[Cakebatter]

I clown on Massachusetts a lot, but they do a ton of things right. If you can afford to live there, its a great place to raise a family. Excellent healthcare (If you live near Boston), good consumer protection laws, good schools, and high paying jobs. There's obviously racism in Boston, but I encountered far worse in Michigan, Ohio, and Illinois. Granted I dress well above average, so I overcome a lot of the class issues that play a bigger role in Boston and New England, than in the Midwest.

 

[Cakebatter]

Not Cape Verdeans? We used to spend a lot of time up there, plus I met a bunch of Boston Cape Verdeans in college. They seem(ed) upwardly mobile.

They live in the southeastern part of the state (Fall River, New Bedford area) and Rhode Island. The black population is very diverse near Boston, and it was weird constantly being asked where I was from, and getting and odd looks when I would respond, "Just African American".

 

[HarlemHottie]

They live in the southeastern part of the state (Fall River, New Bedford area) and Rhode Island. The black population is very diverse near Boston, and it was weird constantly being asked where I was from, and getting and odd looks when I would respond, "Just African American".

Ive heard of this town so you're probably right.

I get those odd looks here in NYC. In Brooklyn, its crazy. Ppl will legit try to argue you down. A quick shortcut: when they press, I tell them "No. My grandmother picked cotton, I'm American. " They calm right down.

 

[IsThatBrothaMouzone?]

List seems suspicious, only because the same state that elected Dumbsantis two times is in the top 3.

Then again, young Floridians aren't the ones voting, it's cacs with nothing better to do than to try and ruin as many lives as possible voting for that clown.

Massachusetts makes sense.

The Florida number......might be that the people who DO take the test almost always get a 3 or higher but the participation is lower, while in Massachusetts, a higher proportion of kids take the test but not all will pass.

If you have a class of 1,000 kids and only 280 take the test, but they all get 3s and up, how does that compare to a school where 500/1000 take the test but say, 310 pass? Is it better to have more participation in AP classes or for the kids who DO take AP classes to have a higher rate of success? The results of NJ, NY, MA make sense but FL doesn't seem to jive...though I think their schooling is better than most think.

Similar to Texas where you have some of the best and some of the worst districts right next to each other. Not uniformly good or bad.

 

[Ayo]

Boston Public pays their teachers an average salary of around $103,000 a year.

The Massachusetts average is somewhere in the high $80k range.

Yes. You’re reading that right. Teachers. 6 figures. For working your ass off for 9 months a year.

I grew up in that education system and it paid off.

 

[Ayo]

Massachusetts makes sense.

The Florida number......might be that the people who DO take the test almost always get a 3 or higher but the participation is lower, while in Massachusetts, a higher proportion of kids take the test but not all will pass.

I wouldn’t believe any numbers coming out of Florida’s department of education, personally. That bum ass Governor manipulated every covid number. His team is constantly lying for him and his presidential run gives him every incentive to.

 

[SupaVillain]

Ma$$holes got that education down

 

[Ayo]

@GrindtooFilthy
@Ayo
@Nabs
@Genome

Brehs need to know

https://profiles.doe.mass.edu/statereport/teachersalaries.aspx

We take care of our teachers and they take care of our kids.

I’m thinking about moving back just so my kids can be educated in the state I went to elementary, middle, high school and college in. It’s not until you move away that you realize how fukked the rest of the public education system is. Especially in the south and in a bunch of places on the west coast.

Don’t get me wrong you can still get a good education. But it’s left a lot more to the desire and will of the kid or their parents.

 

[Ayo]

Also, last thing. Shout out to the Regional Technical school model in Massachusetts. You split your 4 years in high school with 2 years in a technical/vocational area and 2 years in academics. You graduate high school with all you need to hit a 4 year college or go straight to work.

Other states have half assed implementations.

 

[Cakebatter]

Boston Public pays their teachers an average salary of around $103,000 a year.

The Massachusetts average is somewhere in the high $80k range.

Yes. You’re reading that right. Teachers. 6 figures. For working your ass off for 9 months a year.

I grew up in that education system and it paid off.

They have to pay that because the cost of living is so damn high in the greater Boston area. If you want to buy a home within I-495, and live in a town with a reasonably good school system, compared with the rest of the state, homes prices start at $500k.

 

[Swirv]

Also, last thing. Shout out to the Regional Technical school model in Massachusetts. You split your 4 years in high school with 2 years in a technical/vocational area and 2 years in academics. You graduate high school with all you need to hit a 4 year college or go straight to work.

Other states have half assed implementations.

Did you attend a vocational school?

 

[BigMan]

Not Cape Verdeans? We used to spend a lot of time up there, plus I met a bunch of Boston Cape Verdeans in college. They seem(ed) upwardly mobile.

I’m not expert on Boston (I do have fam there so I’m not completely ignorant) so I’m not sure. Technically CVs are West African too so

I do know they run a lot of businesses and are deep in SE Massachusetts like Brockton and Fall River