Massive Unemployment Incoming

[David_TheMan]

Unsound and incomplete and lacking introspection ..

Soundness and Completeness (lack of) is a conclusion of Gödel's incompleteness theorems - Wikipedia.

And so what you may ask..

This was an adjunct to the Turing Proof of the Halting problem which showed the limits of our von Neumann based computation namely that problems cannot fully understand other programs. In the case of the proof itself Turing fed a Turing Machine to another Turning Machine - i.e recursion. This is proof that Turing Equivalent languages are fundamentally not able to introspect. In practical terms this means that Turing Equivalent machines are unable to understand (and hence write) general purpose programs.

These two results both show the incompleteness of formal systems and are essential parts of any discussion about AI (weak/strong), the limits of them and the scope, rate of advancement.

The fact that this did (as predicted) go above your head (once again) demonstrates that you lack the foundation for a discussion like this. Your posts make sense to you because of your limitations not because they are correct.

You give me 'you showed your a$$' and I give you 'your inability to recognize a cornerstone result of the topic that we are discussing'.

Without a formal framework you lack the tools (predicate, prepositional logic, mathematical training in inductive, deductive reasoning and proof forms such as induction, contradiction) to reason about effects by way of formal argument.

It just goes over your head.



I hope I don't have to go into more detail about what this result means.

Rambling and irrelevant data dumps isn't a substitute for a logical statement and contribution to a discussion.

 

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Rambling and irrelevant data dumps isn't a substitute for a logical statement and contribution to a discussion.

 

[David_TheMan]

Yet the law states maximize.

A distinction without a difference in our discussion especially being that I never said I was citing any "law" in the first place right?
LOL
Its alright breh, its clear having a rational discussion isn't your forte.

 

[David_TheMan]

https://www.commdiginews.com/politics-2/outsourcing-is-good-for-the-u-s-economy-26113/

Numerous studies have indicated that outsourcing has had a minimal effect on job losses and, in the aggregate, may have actually added jobs. How can that be?

The reason a company chooses to manufacture a product outside of the U.S. is very clear: The company finds it is less costly, even considering the logistical costs of shipping raw materials and the finished goods. The cost savings are often significant. This allows the company to sell the products at much lower prices, so more Americans can consume them. And, of course, it increases profit.

 

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work to do.

 

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work to do.

 

[Insensitive]

IT has already has already destroyed lots of white collar work. If anything, it seems low level knowledge workers are uniquely susceptible to replacement by computers because computers are efficient at working with data. Machines are not good at navigating the real physical world or real world problem solving, which is why it will be a long time, if ever, before we see robot plumbers, electricians, carpenters, etc.

Certain skilled labor is simply to difficult to or to expensive to employ robots
to do.

At the moment, I work at a place where a Robot regularly does work, it also fukks up shyt a human
would clearly notice and this is at a multi-billion dollar corporation.

So the idea that Robots are just gonna take over everything in a few years doesn't have much of a
basis in reality.

Also the doomsday "Elite/illuminati/Greys/Lizardmen" etc. scenario's being written up in here are
face palm worthy.

 

[hayesc0]

I'm a bus driver so how this shyt gonna hurt me

They figuring out how to automate buses and trucks man sorry to say.

 

[ManBearPig]

They figuring out how to automate buses and trucks man sorry to say.

That shyt isnt consistent enough to worry about it short-term. A lot of things that come with driving a bus that only an actual bus drivers can manage to get done

 

[Serious]

Certain skilled labor is simply to difficult to or to expensive to employ robots
to do.

At the moment, I work at a place where a Robot regularly does work, it also fukks up shyt a human
would clearly notice and this is at a multi-billion dollar corporation.

So the idea that Robots are just gonna take over everything in a few years doesn't have much of a
basis in reality.

Also the doomsday "Elite/illuminati/Greys/Lizardmen" etc. scenario's being written up in here are
face palm worthy.

@Poitier will continue to ignore this.......


@GinaThatAintNoDamnPuppy! said the same thing about ai being decades from being fully implemented. Most of the articles coming out, are just a ploy to get more funding from investors.....

 

[hayesc0]

That shyt isnt consistent enough to worry about it short-term. A lot of things that come with driving a bus that only an actual bus drivers can manage to get done

You could be right just be ready and good luck to everyone.