Master P Buying SoundCloud Plays Is a Lesson for All Artists

[The Devil's Advocate]

If you hire a good pr firm for promo buzz+pay for views and followers+pay for placement on blogs/street promo during an artists "debut" period=success and $ at the backend? Someone please break it down.

i'll break it down for you since the other dude seems to think it's impossible

you said something very important... "GOOD"

yes there are 500000 sharks out there... waiting to take your little $50 dollars and give you 10k fake followers tomorrow.. and they all from china, never comment, and all add on your account within 10 minutes... so everyone and their mom can see its fake...

then you pay these sharks $500 and they get you in fake ass online magazines.. another $350 will have you in a "showcase" with a "def jam a&r" which is a bunch of other artists, looking for the same break.. with some a&r who gets a third of the take, just to show up and not care



so step 1 is do your research.. because


a GOOD PR FIRM (actual credited firm, not twitter pr)... will cost more money... but for that more money, you getting their official pull in the game.. see chance the rapper for an extreme case of what you can get with the best


these places might cost your $300 and up a month.. maybe 800 a month... maybe 2000 a month... maybe 5000.... AND UP


but you ain't their only artist, actor, company under them... so they can step to vlad and say interview my little guy and we'll give you an exclusive with rick ross.... they can step to world star and say, give me the big box for my new guy and i'll give you gucci new video a week early

my boy got a pr firm that works for him... this nikka got an article in forbes fukking magazine.. forbes nikka... this nikka ain't sold a verse, let alone a song.. and that's not all... he gets shyt retweeted by stars.. videos getting 1-5k views each time.. ignorant amount of followers...

but the followers come in organically cause they filter them in from their real list, from real articles in good mags and blogs, and from their real blast list with authentic emails and people on them.





now how does that translate into money... cause if you a common man... you see this dude posted in fukking forbes... you at least gonna be think "damn who is this guy to get this type of press with no label?"

common man don't know you can pay money to get in forbes.. these ain't no coli readers who are well versed in the game.. shyt half the people in this thread just learning you can buy into all this shyt

so he goes and checks him out... which brings in more fans...



going to a person on twitter and seeing they do music and got 1453 followers... you already thinking they trash and won't listen

going to that same person twitter and they got 298347 followers and you might say.... well who the fukk is this? let me see what he talking about



that's all you paying for... PR... promotion... promotion of yourself (music)

IF YOUR MUSIC SUCKS, YOU NOT GETTING ANYWHERE!!!! you will have all the looks in the world but nobody likes your music and you are going nowhere.. you wasting your money

but on the flip side... if you have all the great music in the world and nobody hears it..... where you think you going?




so the money comes when you pay to get your shyt out... people follow like sheep to give you that shot... then you knock that shot out the park with great music.. and then the real organic following can begin when those people start talking and sharing your shyt

 

[Harry B]

P is the poster boy for easy money, fakeness, quantity and low quality in music. Like a Chinese manufacturer. The TRU album and Ghetto D were serious though and Mystikal had hits. But statistically speaking, it might've been random noise seen to the amount of garbage they dropped.

 

[Flav]

shyt IS A GREAT PLAN!!!! ARTISTS STOP FEELING SHAME FOR BUYING shyt!!!!


major labels, indy labels, no name labels, major artists, indy artists, no name artists.... THEY ALL PAYING!!!


they are paying for followers.... they are paying for radio... they are paying by dangling bigger artists on the label... they doing favors for favors... they paying to get on these shows... they pay to get on these blogs... they pay to get in the magazines... they are paying for awards... they pay PR companies to go out there and get them spots that they don't deserve


they paying for every step of their buzz, but then want to try and clown and make fun and tell you not to do it.. BULLshyt


go out there and buy all that shyt up... do what they have all been proven to have done, and still doing... they'll have 5 million followers and still pay to get another 2 million then go brag about having 7 million


if 150k fake plays are going to get you to number 1 on the soundclick search that day, then it was money well spent... then screenshot it and post it on IG and then buy some followers there and get those numbers up too


you better learn how to play the game... that "keeping it real" shyt ain't getting you a motherfukking deal

I just read that in Al Pacino Devils Avocate speech voice

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

P is the poster boy for easy money, fakeness, quantity and low quality in music. Like a Chinese manufacturer. The TRU album and Ghetto D were serious though and Mystikal had hits. But statistically speaking, it might've been random noise seen to the amount of garbage they dropped.

that's another reason he sold

like the chinese.. he undercut everyone... when cds were 12.99 in target and 17.99 in tower records.... i remember the ONLY reason i even bought ghetto d was because that shyt was 8.99 and i had a 10 that day... luckily it was good.. but i bought a lot more no limit albums based on being able to get 2 for 1 prices without having to buy 2

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

I just read that in Al Pacino Devils Avocate speech voice

i don't know why it won't let me rep you... but that was funny as fukk cause now i'm doing it

 

[Milk N Cookies]

I highly suggest reviewing the entirety of the No Limit Forever SoundCloud account. First, the account only has 398 followers

 

[p00rky]

You can buy those bots on hackforums cheap

 

[O.Red]

i'll break it down for you since the other dude seems to think it's impossible

you said something very important... "GOOD"

yes there are 500000 sharks out there... waiting to take your little $50 dollars and give you 10k fake followers tomorrow.. and they all from china, never comment, and all add on your account within 10 minutes... so everyone and their mom can see its fake...

then you pay these sharks $500 and they get you in fake ass online magazines.. another $350 will have you in a "showcase" with a "def jam a&r" which is a bunch of other artists, looking for the same break.. with some a&r who gets a third of the take, just to show up and not care



so step 1 is do your research.. because


a GOOD PR FIRM (actual credited firm, not twitter pr)... will cost more money... but for that more money, you getting their official pull in the game.. see chance the rapper for an extreme case of what you can get with the best


these places might cost your $300 and up a month.. maybe 800 a month... maybe 2000 a month... maybe 5000.... AND UP


but you ain't their only artist, actor, company under them... so they can step to vlad and say interview my little guy and we'll give you an exclusive with rick ross.... they can step to world star and say, give me the big box for my new guy and i'll give you gucci new video a week early

my boy got a pr firm that works for him... this nikka got an article in forbes fukking magazine.. forbes nikka... this nikka ain't sold a verse, let alone a song.. and that's not all... he gets shyt retweeted by stars.. videos getting 1-5k views each time.. ignorant amount of followers...

but the followers come in organically cause they filter them in from their real list, from real articles in good mags and blogs, and from their real blast list with authentic emails and people on them.





now how does that translate into money... cause if you a common man... you see this dude posted in fukking forbes... you at least gonna be think "damn who is this guy to get this type of press with no label?"

common man don't know you can pay money to get in forbes.. these ain't no coli readers who are well versed in the game.. shyt half the people in this thread just learning you can buy into all this shyt

so he goes and checks him out... which brings in more fans...



going to a person on twitter and seeing they do music and got 1453 followers... you already thinking they trash and won't listen

going to that same person twitter and they got 298347 followers and you might say.... well who the fukk is this? let me see what he talking about



that's all you paying for... PR... promotion... promotion of yourself (music)

IF YOUR MUSIC SUCKS, YOU NOT GETTING ANYWHERE!!!! you will have all the looks in the world but nobody likes your music and you are going nowhere.. you wasting your money

but on the flip side... if you have all the great music in the world and nobody hears it..... where you think you going?




so the money comes when you pay to get your shyt out... people follow like sheep to give you that shot... then you knock that shot out the park with great music.. and then the real organic following can begin when those people start talking and sharing your shyt

He gets it brehs

 

[Pop123]

 

[KingsOfKings]

Up.

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

Are these even real artists?

a breh named blacknmild

 

[Flywin Lannister]

I'm saying that most of you people rappin need to find some better shyt to do or start to go outside more. And that's not mean girls logic it's the truth nerd nikkas have no idea how to be "cool" for lack of a better term. Ever seen a nerd nikka with all the latest gear after Christmas in high but the shyt just look odd, why cause he just don't have that "swag" for lack of a better term. It's like a nikka from Africa tryin to make American rap song it's just not gon sound right because he's not apart of that tribe.

Pharrell is a nerd and your bish would
fukk him today.

 

[CapitalforCapital]

Pharrell is a nerd and your bish would
fukk him today.

He has swag he’s an outlier lol

 

[KingsOfKings]

Are these even real artists?

a breh named blacknmild

Actually he's a known DJ in new Orleans. Sorta like a go to.

 

[KENNY DA COOKER]

Nah..it started to bubble in the strip joints and DJs started to f*ck with it

Once it got viral on social media...off course Lyor stepped in to finesse another 360


There are 3 ways to get on radio...either give them what they want ( advertiser placements )
or pay a label to handle that for you upfront or sign that dotted line and get raped

The only artist whose truely independent is Macklemore but he didn't re-up his radio deal
and chose to cater to Hiphop and seek black acceptance over just putting out hits for cacs

MACKLEMORE was NEVER independent