Max Kellerman: Lebron is a better offensive player than Kevin Durant
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GreatestLaker
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Lebron is the better offensive player. Durant is the better shooter, they are about even as scorers, but Lebron's playmaking is what makes him better.
Voice of Reason
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Lebron is still a top 5 finisher at the rim.
Top 5 passer
And top 5 back to the basket player
So yeah he’s better offensively
Top 5 passer
And top 5 back to the basket player
So yeah he’s better offensively
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GreatestLaker
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This is just retarded. Lonzo isn't a great offensive player yet because he has troubling scoring. Lebron clearly doesn't have that problem. Stupid ass comparison.
AlainLocke
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James Harden led the league in scoring last year and the year before that led the league in assists...
Put some respect on his name
I might have underestimated Bron.
Going off of basketball reference's game score, here are all the LeBron and Durant playoff games with a Game Score over 35 since they entered the league:
LeBron: 23 games, including classic huge games in critical moments like Game 5 against the Pistons in 2007, Game 4 against Indiana in 2012, Game 6 against Boston in 2012, Games 5 and 6 against Golden State in 2016, and a half-dozen classic games in 2018, all of which came when the Cavs were behind or tied in the series.
Durant: 2 games. The Game 1 loss to Dallas in 2011 and the Game 3 win in the 2018 Finals. That's it.
Every time LeBron adds something to his game that takes away an old criticism, the haters have to reach for something new to critique.
It's at the point where there's nothing to reach for. LeBron still isn't shooting free throws like he should....and that's the only legitimate criticism of his offensive game left. So they reach wildly to make things up.
Gil Scott-Heroin
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SMH.
And I swear they got incentives for saying “ 8 straight finals” last year when discussing lebronI swear these ESPN people are getting paid extra to push this LeBron narrative....
Max said that with a straight face
Max Kellerman is the most uninformed, casual, homer Stan in all of the media. He knows absolutely nothing about any sport (including boxing) yet he is paid millions to talk about it. 
Max could have deaded the argument by simply asking why does Stephen A himself say that LeBron is the best in the world...we all know LeBron doesn't play defense the way he used to and KD is better on that side of floor...that would have explained his argument...
steph_harden
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lebron is a better offensive player easily when you add in passing (offense includes passing)
if we're talking only scoring, durant is a better shooter but lebron scores more eff from the floor not including FT's (durant .539 efg vs lebron .540 efg)
Kevin Durant Stats | Basketball-Reference.com
LeBron James Stats | Basketball-Reference.com
I mean the stats dont really lie. The efficiency and volume that Bron generates is right up there with KD. But cause he doesnt have an array of offensive moves or a pretty jumpshot like KD people just dont see it that way. Melo's got more moves, Kyrie's got more moves. Are they better offensive players too? Low key Lebron's been a top 3 offensive player in the league for a decade now...but we won't speak on that
These guys hate facts. They prefer goofy narratives, like this unspoken compromise where Bron is still the best player but we get to call KD the best scorer, which means best on offense cause I'm a dumb casual.
No, KD loses there too. Sorry
But you are a dumb casual...
Mantis Toboggan M.D.
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I hate to be the one to do this, but here we go:
he consistently goes out like a chump in big games. The only exception I found was game 5 of the 2012 finals where the starters besides KD shot 8-35 on the game. Take a look at this right here.
Heliflopter Har_en in the 2012 finals vs Miami: 12.4 points per game on a .375/.318/.792 shooting slash.
2013 quarterfinals vs Oklahoma City: 26.4 points on a .391/.341/.803 shooting slash while averaging 4.5 turnovers per game. He went 7-22 with 4 turnovers in game 6.
2014 quarterfinals vs Portland: 26.8 points on a .376/.296/.900 shooting slash. Called to switch off the ball on the final play where Dame got open for the buzzer beater. Was supposed to be his responsibility on the play.
2015 Western conference finals vs Golden State: 2-11 with 12 turnovers in game 5 vs the warriors. Read that again. More turnovers than shot attempts. This was also the same postseason the rockets made their big rally against the clippers with him on the bench.
2016 quarterfinals vs golden state: 26.6 points on a .410/.310/.844 shooting slash with 26 turnovers for an average of 6.5 turnovers per game.
Then there’s his 2017 performance where he got blocked from behind with the game on the line by 40 year old Manu and his game 6 performance, not to mention his vanishing act after halftime in games 6-7 of the western finals this year, including the way the rockets blew a 15 point lead in a game 7 on their own floor. Until he stops going out like this every postseason, what he does in the regular season doesn’t matter because it’s a sign of his game being fundamentally incompatible with the postseason.
Regular season stats in a system which loads up stats on the point man, with the additional advantage that he's gaming the refs at a rate possibly unprecedented in basketball history. There have been notorious floppers before, but none that ever shot fts at the rate Harden does.
But when he gets to the playoffs he sucks. Since Harden became "the man", he's shot 41% from the field and averaged 4.4 turnovers/game in the playoffs. And he chokes at the end every damn year.
2010: Averages 7ppg on 39% shooting in a first-round loss to the Lakers, stumbling to just 2 points on 1-3 shooting in the deciding Game 6.
2012: Chokes terribly in the Finals, averaging 12ppg on 37% shooting and looking like the weak point in the Thunder offense for that series.
2013: Loses in the first round shooting 39% against a Westbrook-less OKC team. Harden goes 7-22 with 4 turnovers in the deciding game with the Thunder guards lighting him up left and right.
2014: Loses in the first round shooting 38% against a Portland team that hadn't won a playoff series since 2000.
2015: In Game 6 of the 2nd round, goes 5-20 with only 2 rebounds and 3 assists while getting lit up left and right by CP3 in what should be the deciding game, only to be bailed out by Josh Smith and company in a massive 4th-quarter comeback while Harden rode the pine. Follows it up by going down to the Warriors in one of the worst deciding games in NBA playoff history, shooting 2-11 while committing a playoff-record 12 turnovers and 5 personal fouls.
2016: Goes down weakly to the Warriors shooting 41% in the 1st round, blown out by 33 in the deciding game.
2017: Loses to a Kawhi-less Spurs in the 2nd round in another WOAT deciding game, going 2-11 with 6 turnovers before fouling out while letting the starting guard combo of Patty Mills and Jonathan Simmons abuse him all night long. Loses by 40 to a team that had Patty and Simmons as the 2nd and 3rd options on offense.
2018: CP3 shows that he can do what Harden can't, helping carry the Rockets to a 1st-round win despite Harden going 8-21 in the deciding game, then carrying them to a 2nd-round win over the Jazz in a series where Harden went 8-22 and 7-22 in the last two games. CP3 stakes Houston to a 3-2 lead in the WCF despite Harden going 5-21 with 6 turnovers in Game 5, but when CP3 goes down the Rockets fold too, with Harden shooting 41% and committing 14 turnovers in the final two games.
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