Mayweather Vs. Duran
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woochild
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I'm not gonna debate this no more. I've come to realize that the majority of the posters here who post about boxing are young dudes who are new to the sport and were prolly brought over as Floyd fans so you nikkas lack depth in your overall knowledge of the sport and it's fighters. Most of ya'll just repeat the same shyt that nikka Floyd says like a bunch of fukking parrots.
If Floyd say a nikka garbage for losing a fight, then ya'll run wit it
If Floyd say a nikka was weight drained, then ya'll run with it
If Floyd say a nikka not making money, then ya'll run with it
If Floyd say etc......, You get where I'm going with this and I'm sure other nikkas here do too.
You can't educate a nikka who is satisfied with their knowledge of something. If you feel Duran's a bum that Floyd can KO in a couple rds like Hearns did then hey.....
this can't be the way a subjective argument is gone about. you can't stop giving the merits of your position and then try to pretend it's everyone else who can't formulate their own opinion when you're failing to make your case in a SUBJECTIVE argument.
my opinion. speed kills. it's simply not a good match up for Duran. in order to think Duran really has a shot, you have to make the huge leap that what he couldn't do to SRL when he decided he wasn't going to mix it up, is something he could do to PBF. and if you make that leap, what makes you believe that cause i get the
face thinking about any plodding brawler catching up to PBF in any meaningful way. Duran would have his moments, but they'd be fleeting.at the end of the day, we've seen what speed does to Duran...one of which ended in embarrassing fashion. we've seen what brawlers do to Mayweather...not a whole lot. besides that, i always thought serious fans of the sweet science knew to pick the boxer over the brawler, all things being remotely equal.
Black_Jesus
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this can't be the way a subjective argument is gone about. you can't stop giving the merits of your position and then try to pretend it's everyone else who can't formulate their own opinion when you're failing to make your case in a SUBJECTIVE argument.
my opinion. speed kills. it's simply not a good match up for Duran. in order to think Duran really has a shot, you have to make the huge leap that what he couldn't do to SRL when he decided he wasn't going to mix it up, is something he could do to PBF. and if you make that leap, what makes you believe that cause i get the
at the end of the day, we've seen what speed does to Duran...one of which ended in embarrassing fashion. we've seen what brawlers do to Mayweather...not a whole lot. besides that, i always thought serious fans of the sweet science knew to pick the boxer over the brawler, all things being remotely equal.
Man fukk all that... All it takes is ONE perfectly placed punch... KO... MATCH OVER
ChocolateGiddyUp
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You got eyes nikka Floyd easily beat a 34 yr old 154 Oscar....fukk outta here calling it a mere split decision
Black_Jesus
Superstar
You got eyes nikka Floyd easily beat a 34 yr old 154 Oscar....fukk outta here calling it a mere split decision
Yea I got eyes... watched and taped the fight..
What you're saying is simply a goddamn lie.. You're a Floyd stan of course you saw it as a one sided victory for Floyd
ChocolateGiddyUp
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HARLEM AL
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Mid to late 30's B hop>>>Young B Hop
Honestly I wouldn't know who wins this but B. Hop has the style to give ANY middle from ANY era problems.
Ahh you know that's a young B hop right?
HARLEM AL
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Like I said he did everything ok. He fought WW and JMW moving up. He hasn't like many step up and dominate. He didn't need to dominate 5 or 6 weight classes. But at least fight in compete 2 or 3 and dominate.jus like he outboxed segundo mercado the 1st time around...
marvin didnt have to be spectacular...his 52 kos say otherwise...67 fights...3 loses 2 draws..
that means 10 em went 2 the cards...n 52 he was puttin boyz to sleep...
Random shyt I learned from reading this thread.....
Duran=Mayorga
Floyd would KO the greatest lightweight ever in a prime mythical match in the early rounds and it would be easy as fukk.
Nobody thinks Castillo gave Floyd problems in the 2ND FIGHT, which was the fight that Floyd WASN'T INJURED in.
Floyd can beat a guy with an all time great jab and who fought effectively from 147 to 175 and who had one of best right hands ever.
Duran is slow
Floyd will some how no matter what the situation is will take away his opponents jab.
SRL is very hittable
Some boxers are invincible and some boxers aren't
Duran=Mayorga
Floyd would KO the greatest lightweight ever in a prime mythical match in the early rounds and it would be easy as fukk.
Nobody thinks Castillo gave Floyd problems in the 2ND FIGHT, which was the fight that Floyd WASN'T INJURED in.
Floyd can beat a guy with an all time great jab and who fought effectively from 147 to 175 and who had one of best right hands ever.
Duran is slow
Floyd will some how no matter what the situation is will take away his opponents jab.
SRL is very hittable
Some boxers are invincible and some boxers aren't
NYC Rebel
...on the otherside of the pond
Random shyt I learned from reading this thread.....
Duran=Mayorga
Floyd would KO the greatest lightweight ever in a prime mythical match in the early rounds and it would be easy as fukk.
Nobody thinks Castillo gave Floyd problems in the 2ND FIGHT, which was the fight that Floyd WASN'T INJURED in.
Floyd can beat a guy with an all time great jab and who fought effectively from 147 to 175 and who had one of best right hands ever.
Duran is slow
Floyd will some how no matter what the situation is will take away his opponents jab.
SRL is very hittable
Some boxers are invincible and some boxers aren't
It amazes me how the only fight where people can point out Floyd's flaws goes back ten years in his career.
Second....no one said Floyd's invincible. No man is.
You posted a punch of "yall run with it" without quoting no one.
iceberg_is_on_fire
Wearing Lions gear when it wasn't cool
We all know that Floyd is one of the smartest boxers ever. We all know that he systematically takes away an opponents best weapons. How many fighters do you know that has a formula to his fight. We all know that once the right hand starts landing, its all over and its usually be round 2-4. What worked for Castillo then isn't going to work now. That was just a chink in the armor that was fixed.
Jesus Is Lord
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Yep and in the same breath TOTALLY ignoring the CHUNKS in the armor of those who they say would beat Floyd. These dudes took losses to lesser opponents, while Floyd took losses to no one, but Floyd is getting criticized for a tough fight with Castillo and that's the gauge if how the others would've beaten him.
So Floyd having trouble with Castillo= Hearns/Duran beating him
But Hearns/Duran losing to fighter not in Floyd's hemisphere means nothing.
Okay, I got it now.
woochild
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so a punchers chance is what you're basing your opinion on? really? the magical punch no one has ever landed on arguably one of the best defenses boxing has ever seen, is the shot you give Duran and the reason you think he could win? that's like saying "all i need is six numbers in this lotto and BANG! I'm a millionaire!".
how about we assume each fighter is at their best and give credence to BOTH of their greatness. in an objective look at it, you can't say speed doesn't win the day. it's done it before. why wouldn't it happen again? That's the question you guys can't seem to answer. you're basing what you want to believe on something that has never happened to Floyd. Others are basing their belief on something that HAS happened to Duran before. which seems more far fetched? which seems more homerish? i mean, c'mon...it's like saying anything bad about floyd is acceptable to you cats even when what you're saying isn't likely, just so long as it's possible. possible does not make it PROBABLE. understand the difference. duran could possibly catch Floyd with a flash KO, but it's not probable. what's more probable is that Floyd's speed and defense will frustrate Duran in the same way SRL's speed frustrated him into quitting. instead of believing what you haven't seen, it seems more logical to lean toward what you have.
Black_Jesus
Superstar
so a punchers chance is what you're basing your opinion on? really? the magical punch no one has ever landed on arguably one of the best defenses boxing has ever seen, is the shot you give Duran and the reason you think he could win? that's like saying "all i need is six numbers in this lotto and BANG! I'm a millionaire!".
how about we assume each fighter is at their best and give credence to BOTH of their greatness. in an objective look at it, you can't say speed doesn't win the day. it's done it before. why wouldn't it happen again? That's the question you guys can't seem to answer. you're basing what you want to believe on something that has never happened to Floyd. Others are basing their belief on something that HAS happened to Duran before. which seems more far fetched? which seems more homerish? i mean, c'mon...it's like saying anything bad about floyd is acceptable to you cats even when what you're saying isn't likely, just so long as it's possible. possible does not make it PROBABLE. understand the difference. duran could possibly catch Floyd with a flash KO, but it's not probable. what's more probable is that Floyd's speed and defense will frustrate Duran in the same way SRL's speed frustrated him into quitting. instead of believing what you haven't seen, itseems more logical to lean toward what you have.
For starters, my comment was in general not particularly towards Duran...
But I'll tell you what I have seen
I've seen him beat Zab Judah who was already coming off a loss to bum ass Baldomir
I seen him struggle vs an over the hill ODL
Seen him manhandle a light weight JMM
I seen him almost get dropped by a washed up Shane Mosley in the 2nd round only to be saved because Mosley was gassed by the third round...On top of that, this fight wouldn't have even happened if it weren't for the earthquake in Haiti throwing Shane and Berto match in the bushes
Seen him KO a defenseless Ortiz
Y'all are some easily impressed ass nikkas... The same nikkas who will diss Roy Jones Jr for fighting a lot of bums during his MW reign will praise Floyd for beating washed up fighters way passed their primes..
nikkas will sit and watch Miguel Cotto cut off the ring and box him in the corner, and connect wit a some good shots.. then have the nerve to say Floyd was letting Cotto hit him on purpose to make the fight exiting
It's too much nonsense to just quote one person though...
I know nobody said Floyd is invincible, but ya'll damn near act like it, especially when you got nikkas saying Floyd beats Hearns easily.
I like Floyd too, that nikka skills is the truth, but some of ya'll take it to another level and think he wins every mythical match up ever just because he has speed and timing like other great fighters didn't have that too.
I'm a big Joe Calzaghe fan, but I'm not gonna sit here and say he beats a prime Michael Spinks at 175 either.
nikkas getting offended like it's some sort of travesty if someone thinks Floyd loses or squeaks by Duran in a close fight. And yes nikkas do have to bring up the Castillo fights since we're using Floyd from lightweight vs Duran at lightweight. We talking prime vs prime right? We not going use Floyd from the Shramba Mitchell fight vs the Duran from the Hagler fight.
An real talk, I have no problem with anybody saying Floyd beats Duran, it's just that it starts getting into the Tyson vs Bruce Lee levels of craziness, when you got nikkas saying Floyd wins by easy KO or that Duran is overrated and would only win a couple rounds.
