MC Eiht: 2Pac Went Backwards By Affiliating Himself with Gangs

[prophecypro]

I mean Eiht is right and that was always the concern.

There's a lot to admire and glamorize about Pac but people tend to lean on heavy with the Hit Em Up/Death Row year and I kinda saw that as his heel year in some ways (even though his music was at its peak and his lyricism)

But too many people in the mission to big him up, lean on all the negative stuff (The shyt he was talking about Faith, Death Row affiliation, taking the slighest offense and every presumed subliminal )and its like look what happened

 

[prophecypro]

Just "knowing" how Pac moved. I think it's safe to say that he was going to try to Unite the Crips and Bloods and turn part of the collective into a Political Party.

I mean he sorta did pre-Death Row with the concept behind the Thug Life movement.

 

[Edub]

LMAO..yeah, use those same arguments with other artists then..like maybe Lil Wayne? Drake? Oh but then its different. 2pac had NO street credibility, thats a fact. He was an artist, as he should be.
The fact nikkas feel the need to paint one as such when they werent says alot of this hip-hop shyt. 2pac was NOT.

In any hood? The fact that you say "WOULD'VE been", proves it didnt happen right? Only in your head.

Do you know how many times he almost got robbed, even in Marin City he got his ass beat back in 1993 or so. Obviously in NY he got robbed. So stop living in fanatasy world. Above the rim time was when he rolled with the extorters - Henchman, Tut & crew. So thats where that "street cred" came from. NOBODY is untouchable, stop taking the image people paint of him NOW as what it was. He was just another famous nikka back then as he should still be now.

People put this different light on him once he died tho. Talented individual, but nothing more nothing less. Smh.

Make the same excuses for an artist you dislike..

No me sayin would've simply means HE COULDNT POSSIBLY GO TO EVERY HOOD IF HE WANTED TO...it doesn't prove that he didn't have love in every hood. And if he didn't get love like that why is there a mural of the nikka in SO MANY HOODS...if u die nikka how many hoods gonna put yo face on a wall...right. And since when is GETTIN robbed the equivalent to gettin no hood love...foh. Any hood nikka know anyone can stand to be robbed in the hood...u think PAC supposed to be Paul Bunyan or some shyt. I tell you what go into certain parts of Bay Area talkin that PAC shyt....nikkas ain't hearin that. Everybody has enemies...but PAC was loved as a real nikka. Not some fraud entertainer y'all tryin to paint foh.

 

[TheNig]

You a dumb nikka

Serious question....

People say this shyt a lot about Pac and how the Feds had it out for him. I just don't see it. Maybe the younger revolutionary Pac but the Death Row Pac... I don't know about that. With that being said, what made him so important that the Feds had it out for him?

I never thought he had that big of an impact before his death. I could be wrong. But for me, he was just another rapper. He hadn't done anything any different than any other rapper at that time.

 

[Will Ross]

LMAO..yeah, use those same arguments with other artists then..like maybe Lil Wayne? Drake? Oh but then its different. 2pac had NO street credibility, thats a fact. He was an artist, as he should be.
The fact nikkas feel the need to paint one as such when they werent says alot of this hip-hop shyt. 2pac was NOT.

In any hood? The fact that you say "WOULD'VE been", proves it didnt happen right? Only in your head.

Do you know how many times he almost got robbed, even in Marin City he got his ass beat back in 1993 or so. Obviously in NY he got robbed. So stop living in fanatasy world. Above the rim time was when he rolled with the extorters - Henchman, Tut & crew. So thats where that "street cred" came from. NOBODY is untouchable, stop taking the image people paint of him NOW as what it was. He was just another famous nikka back then as he should still be now.

People put this different light on him once he died tho. Talented individual, but nothing more nothing less. Smh.

Make the same excuses for an artist you dislike..

No you guys are the one trying to paint him to be something he won't.

 

[DarkmanX]

No me sayin would've simply means HE COULDNT POSSIBLY GO TO EVERY HOOD IF HE WANTED TOO...it doesn't prove that he didn't have love in every hood. And if he didn't get love like that why is there a mural of the nikka in SO MANY HOODS...if u die nikka how many hoods gonna put yo face on a wall...right. And since when is GETTIN robbed the equivalent to gettin no good love...foh. Any hood nikka know anyone can stand to be robbed in the hood...u think PAC supposed to be Paul Bunyan or some shyt. I tell you what go into certain parts of Bay Area talkin that PAC shyt....nikkas ain't hearin that. Everybody has enemies...but PAC was loved as a real nikka. Not some fraud entertainer y'all tryin to paint foh.

You're clearly confused. I rest my case.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Firstly, Thug Life mentality was biggest threat for government.

Lol thug life mentality is a sad maladaptive by-product of decades of structural racism and economic desolation, and only served to marginalize people at the bottom of the socioeconomic totem pole even more, fatten the pockets of private prison developers, create more jobs for cops, lawyers, judges, court clerks, DEA agents, etc. get politicians elected on "tough on crime/urban superpredator" fearmongering, perpetuate the disastrous failure that is the war on drugs, and advance structural racism-supporting narratives in politics in social sciences.

It's not like people see Pac's life and have reason to think thug life means The Hatred U Give Little Infants fukks Everybody as opposed to well, thug life.

 

[DarkmanX]

No you guys are the one trying to paint him to be something he won't.

"..as something he wont" - another european post-death fanatic i assume?

 

[TheNig]

No me sayin would've simply means HE COULDNT POSSIBLY GO TO EVERY HOOD IF HE WANTED TOO...it doesn't prove that he didn't have love in every hood. And if he didn't get love like that why is there a mural of the nikka in SO MANY HOODS...if u die nikka how many hoods gonna put yo face on a wall...right. And since when is GETTIN robbed the equivalent to gettin no hood love...foh. Any hood nikka know anyone can stand to be robbed in the hood...u think PAC supposed to be Paul Bunyan or some shyt. I tell you what go into certain parts of Bay Area talkin that PAC shyt....nikkas ain't hearin that. Everybody has enemies...but PAC was loved as a real nikka. Not some fraud entertainer y'all tryin to paint foh.

Bruh... Pac was an entertainer that got caught up in the street life.

 

[Edub]

Serious question....

People say this shyt a lot about Pac and how the Feds had it out for him. I just don't see it. Maybe the younger revolutionary Pac but the Death Row Pac... I don't know about that. With that being said, what made him so important that the Feds had it out for him?

I never thought he had that big of an impact before his death. I could be wrong. But for me, he was just another rapper. He hadn't done anything any different than any other rapper at that time.

Well I don't honestly know if his death was so much associated with the Feds...but he was targeted because his aunt is a wanted escapee for the murder of two nypd officers...his actual stepfather is locked up in solitary max for breaking her out, murder and a bunch of other shyt and they were all heavily associated with the black panthers and African liberation(fed watched groups). Now, did that make PAC a target by itself, probably not...but PAC was targeted by police in Oakland/SF when strictly4mynikkaz had just released....he was the FIRST HIP HOP COP VICTIM. Did his name of Shakur help target him some say yes some say no. I dunno...but if u follow his run ins with law and nikkas workin for the government secretly...I mean why else. There were other popular black figures at the time who were able to rise and where left alone...but PAC was clearly harrassed. His music content didn't help his cause either. But I believe his own foolishness sealed his fate. But he was helped in becoming the foolish person that he ended up being before his death.

 

[Edub]

Bruh... Pac was an entertainer that got caught up in the street life.

I know...

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Alot of these cats nowadays are affiliating for street credibility that they lack.

Pac already had street credibility in abundance. I think for him it was moreso about aligning himself with something powerful that could match his fire. Dude legit was trying to takeover the rap game and streets to some degree and a feared guy like Suge could easily help that cause. Suge and his goons were like linemen to Pac's running back.

He probably just wanted to feed them the same loyalty and protection they gave him after bouncing back from being setup and shot. But there was no escaping the bullshyt that came with it.

Lol@a rapper or anybody being able to "take over the streets."

 

[Edub]

You're clearly confused. I rest my case.

You had no case bytch...you tryin to salt pac, and made some off target ass point about me using the word would've ...foh

 

[TheNig]

Well I don't honestly know if his death was so much associated with the Feds...but he was targeted because his aunt is a wanted escapee for the murder of two nypd officers...his actual stepfather is locked up in solitary max for breaking her out, murder and a bunch of other shyt and they were all heavily associated with the black panthers and African liberation(fed watched groups). Now, did that make PAC a target by itself, probably not...but PAC was targeted by police in Oakland/SF when strictly4mynikkaz had just released....he was the FIRST HIP HOP COP VICTIM. Did his name of Shakur help target him some say yes some say no. I dunno...but if u follow his run ins with law and nikkas workin for the government secretly...I mean why else. There were other popular black figures at the time who were able to rise and where left alone...but PAC was clearly harrassed. His music content didn't help his cause either. But I believe his own foolishness sealed his fate. But he was helped in becoming the foolish person that he ended up being before his death.

Which is why I specifically pointed out pre-Death Row Pac and Death Row Pac.

Before Death Row he seemed to be more of a target. I can't say the Feds gave enough of a fukk about him during the Death Row days.

 

[jackson35]

all of u missed the point. none of these affiliations help pac to where he should be as a man and as a artist. pac waspart of the zulu nation and was close to the nation of Islam. those so called gangs were agents for the goverment that were keeping tabs on pac and reporting back to the cracker on the lastest development. he completely lost it when he stomped homeboy out in Vegas over a chain. at the end of the day, pac is no longer here with us is because as black men, we fail to protect that brother from the nonsense that was designed to stop his growth as a serious black man