MC Shan Goes Off On Birdman Claiming East Coast Run In Hip Hop Is Over For Good

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You're wrong

@Art Barr
@FreshAIG

No. This is quantifiable and not a matter of opinion

That’s why you need to tag someone into the ring for you to try to help but it won’t work


LL Cool J didn’t influence Eazy-E’s rapping vocal tone. MC Shan did

LL Cool J entirely lifted MC Shan’s style of fashion. Nobody copied LL Cool J’s

End of discussion

 

[TripleAgent]

No. This is quantifiable and not a matter of opinion

That’s why you need to tag someone into the ring for you to try to help but it won’t work


LL Cool J didn’t influence Eazy-E’s rapping vocal tone. MC Shan did

End of discussion

They're two of the handful of posters that can go toe to toe with me on Hip-Hop history. I'm sure I'm right, but if not, they'll let me know.

If Eazy's alleged influence is all you have in Shan's favor, good luck with that. That's NOTHING compared to LL's influence on the game.

 

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They're two of the handful of posters that can go toe to toe with me on Hip-Hop history. I'm sure I'm right, but if not, they'll let me know.

If Eazy's alleged influence is all you have in Shan's favor, good luck with that. That's NOTHING compared to LL's influence on the game.

LL’s legacy is bigger, that’s not my point. It doesn’t make him the original prototype for the superstar rapper, MC Shan is that

LL borrowed from that


Nobody borrowed from LL

Maybe 50 in the gym regiment

 

[TripleAgent]

LL’s legacy is bigger, that’s not my point. It doesn’t make him the original prototype for the superstar rapper, MC Shan is that

LL borrowed from that


Nobody borrowed from LL

Maybe 50 in the gym regiment

How when LL came out first? Did you not read my posts? LL was fukking with Rick Rubin in '84. 1984! Shan had one single in '85 that did nothing, all his heat was in '86, LL had a hit album out the year prior.

 

[spliz]

the videos are so different

U ever seen a Smack DVD nikka? lol.

 

[Yehuda]

Breh I'm not one of these "Nas has to look out for every single individual that ever came out of Queensbridge" cats but he really should at least help Shan with dental implants.

 

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How when LL came out first? Did you not read my posts? LL was fukking with Rick Rubin in '84. 1984! Shan had one single in '85 that did nothing, all his heat was in '86, LL had a hit album out the year prior.

And even then Eazy-E copied Shan’s voice, not LL’s, so that closes that subject on who was more influential right there. Shan’s influence lended to the signature sound of a legend

But when did he begin to rock rhe Kangol breh, the Kangol is the deciding factor in this case


If the Kangol was a lift, you must acquit

 

[TripleAgent]

And even then Eazy-E copied Shan’s voice, not LL’s, so that closes that subject on who was more influential right there. Shan’s influence lended to the signature sound of a legend

But when did he begin to rock rhe Kangol breh, the Kangol is the deciding factor in this case


If the Kangol was a lift, you must acquit

You do realize Eazy just sounded like that, right? Watch his interviews. Personally, I don't think he got his vocal style from anyone. He had one of the most unique voices in rap ever. He talked just like that.

The pic I posted with L wearing a Kangol was the back cover to Radio, 1985. A year before Shan was a factor. AGAIN, standard B-Boy appareal for the era. Shan was on his first single (that didn't stick) when LL had a hit ALBUM out getting play ad touring the US and beyond. Don't see how Shan influenced LL and not the other way around. There's a decent chance he hadn't heard of Shan yet.

 

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You do realize Eazy just sounded like that, right? Watch his interviews. Personally, I don't think he got his vocal style from anyone. He had one of the most unique voices in rap ever. He talked just like that.

The pic I posted with L wearing a Kangol was the back cover to Radio, 1985. A year before Shan was a factor. AGAIN, standard B-Boy appareal for the era. Shan was on his first single (that didn't stick) when LL had a hit ALBUM out getting play ad touring the US and beyond. Don't see how Shan influenced LL and not the other way around. There's a decent chance he hadn't heard of Shan yet.

No he absolutely did not and this is another point you’re entirely wrong

He had an entirely different voice in real life compared to performances - like Michael Jackson

What you think and what you know can not be conflated with facts, truth. Eazy-E didn’t know what he was doing in the booth when CIA canceled their session, they had studio time booked and they told him to try to sound like MC Shan. This is noted, documented and in-print from those there

We can talk about the effect of Def Jam machine and Rick Rubin song factory all day, it doesn’t make LL anywhere close to the original prototype that MC Shan was

 

[TripleAgent]

No he absolutely did not and this is another point you’re entirely wrong

He had an entirely different voice in real life compared to performances - like Michael Jackson

What you think and what you know can not be conflated with facts, truth. Eazy-E didn’t know what he was doing in the booth when CIA canceled their session, they had studio time booked and they told him to try to sound like MC Shan. This is noted, documented and in-print from those there

We can talk about the effect of Def Jam machine and Rick Rubin song factory all day, it doesn’t make LL anywhere close to the original prototype that MC Shan was

I'll take your word about Eazy, mainly because I don't care, though I'd love to see proof.

So...we're supposed to believe LL grinds, gets his demo notices in 1984, comes out with two hit singles, then hit album in 1985, THEN decides to copy a guy who isn't doing half of what he is the next year? Come on, b

 

[zayk35]

And with this clown ass mindstate is the reason why East Coast is NOT running the music scene now

Yep he was def part of those east coast ppl who shytted on everything outside of NYC back in the days. He calling them dumb and they getting more play and $$$ in one year than he had his entire existence.....fukking crackhead

 

[I'm Blackman]

fukk mc shan.

 

[Wild self]

When the South took the reins rap got reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeal borderline autistic. Not even trying to disrespect, just being honest. A bunch of Chapelle-sketch worthy ass rappers took over and influenced the game, . Nobody devalued the game in terms of actual skill/seriousness like the South. Imo NWA ruined this whole entire shyt, been saying that on here forever…but at least they were serious, lol…nigs rap/act like parodies now

Gucci Mane condoned tricking and simping. That is a crime against humanity AND masculinity.

It's the south's values that people really hated. They brought in the stripper culture to the limelight and regressed lyricism as an optional part of their music.

 

[Art Barr]

no.

You don’t get what even said. LL Cool J is not a prototype. You’re literally talking about someone who lifted his style from the prototype we’re talking about. Stop it.

His whole style and image was lifted from MC Shan

Eazy-E voice was lifted from MC Shan

Nobody lifted LL Cool J’s voice


this has to he explained to you. Why?

Stop.

Shan was never the boy king like ll cool j.
Where shan lives a complete lie.
in his head as far as his impact.
or permeation in the market place.

Shan was and still is fodder.


The rap games fascination with losers and sheltered homebodies. who never really rhymed nowhere.
Plus never excelled nowhere as emcee is astonishing.

Why are people listening to this coke head and Pendergast.

I did not even press play.

just because losers got an internet connection. Does not mean you supposed to keep up a national geographic grocier rag report on their every fukk'n move.

i swear to gawd.


Why are y'all fascinated with nikkaz who never rhymed well nowhere.

Why!?!!!!




Art Barr

 

[Art Barr]

*fukk mc shan and birdman

Pause.


Fixed.



Art Barr