McDonald's rolls out self-service kiosks: push for $15 min wage brehs

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Self-servicing is cost effective, and McDonald's being a corporation, it was only a matter of time before this happened.

People really need to consider a STEM career at this point in time.

STEM gonna get automated, too, and Trump hates college education on top of that. :skip:

But with automation, should prices be significantly lower? :jbhmm:
 

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Minimum wage should be raised to a more liveable level agreed. But I would rather push to know how to program that kiosk and any other technology than push for the government to give me $15 a hour.

But basic business tells you if you can program a machine to do what a human would have done and reduce cost without negatively impacting the customer experience and willingness to pay you can make more money. So why not..

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I can see the OP now at McDonalds like...

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Yh I used these in the Middle East over a year ago. I guess they were trying them out before mass roll-out.

Years of research goes into making things like this feasible. Like everyone said, they must have had this in the pipeline for years and have just found a convenient scapegoat in the form of minimum wage.
 

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This is why the working-class needs to run society. Labor-saving technologies shouldn't be a bad development where people get tossed aside and their ability to survive is greatly reduced. Labor-saving technologies should be widely dispersed and harnessed so working hours across the board are reduced and full employment can be provided for.
I'm struggling to find an argument against this.

Ultimately profits will have to be redistributed more equitably. Things are def headed down an unsustainable path.
 

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Yh I used these in the Middle East over a year ago. I guess they were trying them out before mass roll-out.

Years of research goes into making things like this feasible. Like everyone said, they must have had this in the pipeline for years and have just found a convenient scapegoat in the form of minimum wage.
They don't need the scapegoat. This is no different than those self-serve soda machines. It's just the next logical step.

One way this could benefit workers is by increasing throughput. Employees still have to make the food (for now). If these increase the # of orders that can be processed, that will enable more workers to be hired and more business to be done. There's a Chickfila here.... lines through it are crazy. If ordering is a bottleneck, self-serve kiosks could enable workers to process them more efficiently which would benefit everybody.
 

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I'm struggling to find an argument against this.

Ultimately profits will have to be redistributed more equitably. Things are def headed down an unsustainable path.

The concept of profits as we know it now will be unsustainable. Universal Basic Income in itself will be a stop gap solution with a limited shelf-life so to speak
 
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What do you think will happen if working class people start flooding the STEM fields? :jbhmm:

Good question. What exactly is your definition of working class? occupation and salarly? If you're referring to manually labors and skilled industrial workers we are on the same page.

Caveat: for the skilled industrial workers and skilled manually laborers who can't get there jobs replaced by a robot and who may have a well paying job there may be no advantage to switching. That's probably under 5% of the group though. Now for the other 95% huge advantage And you ask what would happen to the stem field...well first there is a huge shortage of people in stem. The reason being the barrier to entry is set very high. The academic rigor one must complete to enter the field is High. For many that barrier is passing hard biology, chemistry, coding and math courses so many people won't make it anyway.

But if they all do hypothetically, then they will Fill the shortage of stem qualified people we have. :myman:
 

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Technology Tax. :troll:

I've seen these things roll out already. 99% of the time people still go to register. They even have paid attendants that demonstrate it for you, but they still haven't caught on.
 

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Technology Tax. :troll:

I've seen these things roll out already. 99% of the time people still go to register. They even have paid attendants that demonstrate it for you, but they still haven't caught on.

Software Design 101:
Even when you code it to be idiot proof they'll just end up making a better idiot
 

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They don't need the scapegoat. This is no different than those self-serve soda machines. It's just the next logical step..

That's what I'm saying. Companies are always looking for ways to become more efficient. This was already in the pipeline but some ppl are linking it to the min wage.


It’s not just McDonald’s that has embraced job-replacing technology. Numerous restaurant chains (both quick service and full service) have looked to computer tablets as a solution for rising labor costs that won’t adversely impact the customer’s experience. Eatsa, a fully-automated restaurant concept, now has five locations—all in cities or states that have embraced a $15 minimum wage

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Good question. What exactly is your definition of working class? occupation and salarly? If you're referring to manually labors and skilled industrial workers we are on the same page.

Caveat: for the skilled industrial workers and skilled manually laborers who can't get there jobs replaced by a robot and who may have a well paying job there may be no advantage to switching. That's probably under 5% of the group though. Now for the other 95% huge advantage And you ask what would happen to the stem field...well first there is a huge shortage of people in stem. The reason being the barrier to entry is set very high. The academic rigor one must complete to enter the field is High. For many that barrier is passing hard biology, chemistry, coding and math courses so many people won't make it anyway.

But if they all do hypothetically, then they will Fill the shortage of stem qualified people we have. :myman:

I see superseded wages and people moving towards entrepreneurship. People would forget getting STEM altogether because too much, and getting paid too little in the age of automation.
 
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