Media Perception: J.Cole vs. Kendrick Lamar

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*If you think I talk about Kendrick too much, why are you here? Just hit that 'ignore' button* :stopitslime:

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I think that we can all agree that J.Cole and Kendrick are viewed as the new school faces of conscious rap. However, I do think that when it comes to the media (white media especially), J.Cole is slightly overlooked and his music is judged harder than Kendrick's.

Why is this, I thought. And then it kinda hit me:

You see, unlike many rappers, J.Cole actually graduated college. And unlike most people, he actually graduated with HONORS. There's nothing about J.Cole that can make cacs feel inherently superior to him and so he's ignored or slightly brought down the size.

With Kendrick, it's different. While he is seemingly smart (the imagery in many of his songs are on point) and non-threatening, Kendrick is still hood - openly admitting to feeling awkward and insecure around white people. When he is rapping about drugs, uncouth friends and relatives, and the hardships of growing up in the ghetto, cacs get a perverse pleasure from that shyt. It makes them feel better about themselves. And so they place Kendrick on a pedestal and overrate everything single thing he does without (I suspect) even bothering to truly listen to the music.

I was really surprised when many people described TBAP as 'unapologetically black' while touting positive mainstream reviews of the album without a hint of irony.

If an album is unapologetically black and rages against the machine, shouldn't it make white people uncomfortable? Has anyone stopped to think why cacs are supporting music that supposedly low-key bashes them?

Of course, people here rarely see the forest for the trees.
 
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I would honestly add Big Krit in the same league as J. Cole and Kendrick. With that said, I think it has more to do with J. Cole's personality. J. Cole, though half white has been speaking out against cacs since his first mixtape.

"I'm a provide for my seed I'm the soil
I teach 'em bout' loyalty
I teach 'em that his skin black like oil that's for royalty
I show 'em all the things that my pops was neva showin' me"

"Even white girls trying to be my princess, but I only fukk with sistas like incest"

"I hate the winter time because the nights come quicker
The light make them whites think Im a nice young nikka
But at night they think twice and walk a little faster
Its funny, 100 years ago I woulda called this nikka master"
 

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*If you think I talk about Kendrick too much, why are you here? Just hit that 'ignore' button* :stopitslime:

For the rest you, continue on...

I think that we can all agree that J.Cole and Kendrick are viewed as the new school faces of conscious rap. However, I do think that when it comes to the media (white media especially), J.Cole is slightly overlooked and his music is judged harder than Kendrick's.

Why is this, I thought. And then it kinda hit me:

You see, unlike many rappers, J.Cole actually graduated college. And unlike most people, he actually graduated with HONORS. There's nothing about J.Cole that can make cacs feel inherently superior to him and so he's ignored or slightly brought down the size.

With Kendrick, it's different. While he is seemingly smart (the imagery in many of his songs are on point) and non-threatening, Kendrick is still hood - openly admitting to feeling awkward and insecure around white people. When he is rapping about drugs, uncouth friends and relatives, and the hardships of growing up in the ghetto, cacs get a perverse pleasure from that shyt. It makes them feel better about themselves. And so they place Kendrick on a pedestal and overrate everything single thing he does without (I suspect) even bothering to truly listen to the music.

I was really surprised when many people described TBAP as 'unapologetically black' while touting positive mainstream reviews of the album without a hint of irony.

If an album is unapologetically black and rages against the machine, shouldn't it make white people uncomfortable? Has anyone stopped to think why cacs are supporting music that supposedly low-key bashes them?

Of course, people here rarely see the forest for the trees.

Do you really think they are checking all that hard or just listening to the music? One is just outperforming the other.
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Kendrick's advantage is that he started off with a bang..if GKMC was trash, way less people would've fukked with him now..and the Dre affiliation def helps but it's not the reason he gets more love. Kendrick just makes more interesting music than Cole imo.

Cole played it safe for his first 2 albums then dropped his first great project last year.

I was lookin at Amazon..FHD has 600 reviews with an average of 4.8 stars..slightly better rated than Kendrick's first album.
 

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*If you think I talk about Kendrick too much, why are you here? Just hit that 'ignore' button* :stopitslime:

For the rest you, continue on...

I think that we can all agree that J.Cole and Kendrick are viewed as the new school faces of conscious rap. However, I do think that when it comes to the media (white media especially), J.Cole is slightly overlooked and his music is judged harder than Kendrick's.

Why is this, I thought. And then it kinda hit me:

You see, unlike many rappers, J.Cole actually graduated college. And unlike most people, he actually graduated with HONORS. There's nothing about J.Cole that can make cacs feel inherently superior to him and so he's ignored or slightly brought down the size.

With Kendrick, it's different. While he is seemingly smart (the imagery in many of his songs are on point) and non-threatening, Kendrick is still hood - openly admitting to feeling awkward and insecure around white people. When he is rapping about drugs, uncouth friends and relatives, and the hardships of growing up in the ghetto, cacs get a perverse pleasure from that shyt. It makes them feel better about themselves. And so they place Kendrick on a pedestal and overrate everything single thing he does without (I suspect) even bothering to truly listen to the music.

I was really surprised when many people described TBAP as 'unapologetically black' while touting positive mainstream reviews of the album without a hint of irony.

If an album is unapologetically black and rages against the machine, shouldn't it make white people uncomfortable? Has anyone stopped to think why cacs are supporting music that supposedly low-key bashes them?

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f course, people here rarely see the forest for the trees.
White people were bumping NWA albums.... fukk you talking about?:stacwtf:
 

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Lol that is a dumbass reason why Cole is less popular than Kendrick. Do you really think anyone knows or cares that Cole graduated college? It seems like you have a preconceived notion and are trying to find reasons to justify it. The hallmark traits of someone who is delusional.
 

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Lol that is a dumbass reason why Cole is less popular than Kendrick. Do you really think anyone knows or cares that Cole graduated college? It seems like you have a preconceived notion and are trying to find reasons to justify it. The hallmark traits of someone who is delusional.

Kendrick is a c00n yet white people are complaining that his album is too black. :mjlol:

:comeon:

:mjlol:
 
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