Meet the PAWG producing beats for your favorite rappers

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Hank Shockley was chopping up all genres creating magic and they sued the man to Bolivia and destroyed an art form. This woman is making beats with a super Simon and voila! modern hip hop.
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I mean, ya'll know who KBeazy is right?

Straight up a large amount, maybe even most, modern music is made by 14-18 year old white/asian/hispanic/middle eastern/indian suburb kids. Ain't because of talent, it's because of accessibility and abundance/ease of tutorials now mixed with clout-chasing.



People like this are responsible for a lot of the music you've heard since 2017.

The "type beat" generation and the "type beat" era where everybody copying each other and the artists would rather buy the copies rather than the original sounds because it's way cheaper.

Go on youtube and just search "<your favorite artist> type beat tutorial" and you'll see what I mean.

You want to know why there are so many artists that have beats like Playboi Carti?

Go to the profiles and see what they look like.

Basically it's a simple formula:
1. Listen to your favorite artist.
2. Go into youtube: search for "<favorite artist> type beat tutorial".
3. Go download sounds and basically copy and paste into your DAW.
4. Sell beats for $30 on beatstars with "<favorite artist> type beat" tag.

That's why when you check the credits they have a different producer on each track on the same album.
 
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not only that, them Scandinavian governments subsidize musicians over there. Even death metal bands can get government grants. and then people like Max Martin and other Swede producers can come here and dominate the pop charts because they've been nurtured to do so. Typical Americans cant compete with that. They also have better school programs that can lead you into the careers too. Here in America, you have a Music Tech class in highschool barely any of the kids know about. Then some other Hidden Music Tech classes in college no one knows about that at some schools you gotta audition music standards as a musican to get into. Then some of the Music Production schools here have BAD reputations when it comes to students. Every thing is cliquey.

I got Fruity Loops right now and been trained in music most of my life. I kinda wanna say fukk it and try.
If she can get paid with probably no music training, you are already ahead by leaps and bounds. Do it!
 

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Facts.

On top of that: I'm saying straight up - wait until folks from China get involved in beatmaking.

50% of Chinese musicians have absolute/perfect pitch compared to the rest of the Western world at 1/10,000 (0.01%). :mindblown:

Absolute pitch is what Mariah Carey, Michael Jackson, etc. have, insanely rare gift, but not so much in China.

The other 50% have incredible relative pitch (less rare but singers like Prince were excellent with it) because Mandarin is a tonal language.

It's like they basically must communicate in pitch from when they were born in order to survive. Even if the American/European kids had formal musical training, they don't have the need to acquire absolute pitch like that so their brain never learns it. Pitch is a necessary part of life in Chinese (and some African) languages.


I was making music all up until last year myself, the scene definitely is getting watered down.

You want to know where all the craftsmanship has been happening? K-Pop.

All I'm saying is, wait until China gets involved even if it's on the behind-the-scenes, beatmaker level - those musicians are going to blow people away.

People are very fortunate their government don't want them to do "Western" things, because man, those ears :wow:

I found some of your post interesting, but I have to disagree about the kpop part. I don't feel production wise kpop is doing that much compared to other parts of the world. A lot of the stuff I hear got lazy production and not doing anything different than western producers. Also wouldn't suprise me if Asian markets make the leap because them and other regions have been doing stuff better than westerners when it comes to film.
 

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Wack ass rappers from youtube rapping over "Nightmare on Elm Street" inspired beats that all sound the same.
Yup.

Truth of the matter really is, according to objective music theory there are not many ways to make that kind of sound. Once you know the formula, it's basically easy. Making those kinds of beats makes it difficult to get creative because if you veer from it you don't get the effect anymore.

Same goes for drums/808s, only so many places you can play notes to get the vibe you want:


60k views on that tutorial and remember that count ain't from the average person. That's 60k views specifically from producers. You know how many potential beats people probably made from that alone?

Now think about the tutorials with millions of views.

We're just now seeing it because there are a shytload of people with computers and FL Studio (Fruity Loops) is pretty much right there for people to download/buy.

What are they going to do once they got that program? Hit youtube for tutorials.

 
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Yea, I honestly don't care as long as it sound good. It's not like they are artists and most of them get signed to slave deals on black boutique labels :yeshrug:
I was suprised to find out my favorite song on Culture 3 was produced by a random cac teenager in Poland
 

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I mean, ya'll know who KBeazy is right?

Straight up a large amount, maybe even most, modern music is made by 14-18 year old white/asian/hispanic/middle eastern/indian suburb kids.



People like this are responsible for a lot of the music you've heard since 2017.

The "type beat" generation and the "type beat" era where everybody copying each other and the artists would rather buy the copies rather than the original sounds because it's way cheaper.

Go on youtube and just search "<your favorite artist> type beat tutorial" and you'll see what I mean.

You want to know why there are so many artists that have beats like Playboi Carti?

Go to the profiles and see what they look like.

Basically it's a simple formula:
1. Listen to your favorite artist.
2. Go into youtube: search for "<favorite artist> type beat tutorial".
3. Go download sounds and basically copy and paste into your DAW.
4. Sell beats for $30 on beatstars with "<favorite artist> type beat" tag.

That's why when you check the credits they have a different producer on each track on the same album.


Yep. Between the "type beat" producers, and people making drum and sound packs readily available, it's a whole lot easier to just get a generic beat.

And at the upper levels of music, it's part of why you're seeing more tracks with multiple producers now. Part of it is people actually getting credits now, but another part of it is tracks basically going through the carwash sometimes before it even sees vocals, or makes it to a final product.
 

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Yep. Between the "type beat" producers, and people making drum and sound packs readily available, it's a whole lot easier to just get a generic beat.

And at the upper levels of music, it's part of why you're seeing more tracks with multiple producers now. Part of it is people actually getting credits now, but another part of it is tracks basically going through the carwash sometimes before it even sees vocals, or makes it to a final product.
Yup. Funny thing is artists will choose beats at complete random (maybe because they high af too) so even some generic ass shyt is fly to them.

I remember I was watching a stream with Kenny Beats and dude said when he was making a beat for Da Baby he started with some real generic shyt that took 5 minutes to set the foundation on and while he was thinking of what to put next Da Baby was like "cool".

Kenny Beats was like "Huh? That's it?" and that became the song on dude's album.

Generic type beat = next potential big song once the artist puts their vocals on it.
 
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I truly understand it, as a musician myself. When you have ideas that you're really attached to in your DAW, you definitely want to make beats in the same vein. FL makes it easy to click and drag and whatnot, but with Ableton I've really become much more of an actual producer. I couldn't make original beats well at all for most of my time producing, but sampling was the thing for so long and it didn't matter. It's why it feels so much better now that I can actually can create and match the feel I created when I sampled. I think a lot of it is that a lot of these producers didn't really sample and experiment with different records. When you go from that to original beats, you kind of are more open to experimenting with patterns and melodies.

I won't lie, I have learned how to make some drill beats, a couple trap beats here and there just by watching tutorials. It's a great tool for sure. I can't rock with getting packs of other people's melodies though, especially since I can make my own. You can literally just listen to older songs and find inspiration to make your own shyt.
 
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