That's nice and all res but penn state covered up a molester and fostered a culture that allowed him to prey on boys.
So there.
So there.
Meet your NCAA president, and world's biggest hypocrite, Mark Emmert
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I'm not quite sure you can even imagine the anger I feel toward those five individuals (and all else who failed, which is far reaching beyond PSU) for putting us all in this position. There's nothing I can say that hasn't been said and I don't need to pile on simply because you aren't satisfied with my response. And I'm not even talking about some football shyt anymore. I have PSU on my resume, this shyt affects me. I don't care what it looks like to you to be perfectly honest because this shyt actually affects my life, whereas it only serves to give you a platform to express some moral disgust and judge folks
Who got it worse the players, students, people associated with PSU or the victims of childhood sexual abuse? At a certain point rules and even logic have to take a backseat to what is right. These kids (now adults) have to live with what happened to them for the rest of their lives and you wanna talk about how the NCAA is abusing power?
We are talking about child abuse not some coach or player banging a side piece or drinking too much. Players get suspended or even dismissed for breaking the law all the time but yet a program that was at the center of a huge child abuse scandal shouldn't have anything happen to it?
The NCAA's position is not only to prevent competitive advantage. It's main job is to protect the NCAA. You think having a program operate as a front for a child rapist is good for the NCAA? If a Walmart is discovered to be a front for child trafficking you think corperate is gonna sit on their hands because "it isn't their business" or because "courts handle criminality"?
Joe Pa covered for a fukkin child rapist in order to protect his legacy and his program. Everyone involved did nothing because either they worshipped Joe or wanted to protect the program. It's only right that the program that so many people put over the well-being of kids suffers the consequences and that Joe loses the wins that he accrued while he knew that kids were being abused and did nothing to stop it.
Football players are free to leave. Students are free to leave. Teachers and coaches are free to leave. Like Desmond said everybody has a choice but the damn victims!
Child abuse outranks abuse of power and involving your self in something that isn't your business and hypocrisy and any other pejorative you wanna throw out there.
How is resurrections posts stretching out that long ? Is it because I'm on a iPhone ?
And I'm sorry but I feel more outrage over punishing poor kids for taking Gifts then for punishing a program that covered for a child molester who actually did it on the campus and they still allowed him access . That's despicable
And I'm sorry but I feel more outrage over punishing poor kids for taking Gifts then for punishing a program that covered for a child molester who actually did it on the campus and they still allowed him access . That's despicable
Who got it worse the players, students, people associated with PSU or the victims of childhood sexual abuse? At a certain point rules and even logic have to take a backseat to what is right. These kids (now adults) have to live with what happened to them for the rest of their lives and you wanna talk about how the NCAA is abusing power?
We are talking about child abuse not some coach or player banging a side piece or drinking too much. Players get suspended or even dismissed for breaking the law all the time but yet a program that was at the center of a huge child abuse scandal shouldn't have anything happen to it?
The NCAA's position is not only to prevent competitive advantage. It's main job is to protect the NCAA. You think having a program operate as a front for a child rapist is good for the NCAA? If a Walmart is discovered to be a front for child trafficking you think corperate is gonna sit on their hands because "it isn't their business" or because "courts handle criminality"?
Joe Pa covered for a fukkin child rapist in order to protect his legacy and his program. Everyone involved did nothing because either they worshipped Joe or wanted to protect the program. It's only right that the program that so many people put over the well-being of kids suffers the consequences and that Joe loses the wins that he accrued while he knew that kids were being abused and did nothing to stop it.
Football players are free to leave. Students are free to leave. Teachers and coaches are free to leave. Like Desmond said everybody has a choice but the damn victims!
Child abuse outranks abuse of power and involving your self in something that isn't your business and hypocrisy and any other pejorative you wanna throw out there.
Couldn't have said it better...
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Who got it worse the players, students, people associated with PSU or the victims of childhood sexual abuse? At a certain point rules and even logic have to take a backseat to what is right. These kids (now adults) have to live with what happened to them for the rest of their lives and you wanna talk about how the NCAA is abusing power?
We are talking about child abuse not some coach or player banging a side piece or drinking too much. Players get suspended or even dismissed for breaking the law all the time but yet a program that was at the center of a huge child abuse scandal shouldn't have anything happen to it?
The NCAA's position is not only to prevent competitive advantage. It's main job is to protect the NCAA. You think having a program operate as a front for a child rapist is good for the NCAA? If a Walmart is discovered to be a front for child trafficking you think corperate is gonna sit on their hands because "it isn't their business" or because "courts handle criminality"?
Joe Pa covered for a fukkin child rapist in order to protect his legacy and his program. Everyone involved did nothing because either they worshipped Joe or wanted to protect the program. It's only right that the program that so many people put over the well-being of kids suffers the consequences and that Joe loses the wins that he accrued while he knew that kids were being abused and did nothing to stop it.
Football players are free to leave. Students are free to leave. Teachers and coaches are free to leave. Like Desmond said everybody has a choice but the damn victims!
Child abuse outranks abuse of power and involving your self in something that isn't your business and hypocrisy and any other pejorative you wanna throw out there.
No shyt. Nobody in their right mind prioritizes other things over child abuse. But the reality is other things have occurred as a fall out of this that deserve conversation. I feel sick to my stomach for the victims as any and all should, but I'm not going to act like I literally am not allowed to bring up ANY other subject just because I'm a PSU supporter so all I'm allowed to do is weep and wear sackcloth when this is an 8 month old story to begin with. Suppressing PSU supporters' voices from talking about anything other than feeling ashamed of themselves accomplishes nothing. Media has been talking about the NCAA for days, but I'm not allowed? I can't possibly be heartbroken for the victims AND point out that a total hypocrite acted out of pocket by smashing a program into oblivion? Do I need to disclaimer each post about PSU with (*I hate Joe Paterno and am deathly ill for child abuse victims) ? Come on bro, can we just assume from now on that we all take that point of view as a default but can still talk about things that have happened since then?
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What exactly does talking about abuse or power or how it was none of the NCAA business accomplish? It's basically the equivalent of members of ol' boy in Colorado's family trying to make a big deal about how the police treated him or what rights he might have been denied. I could see if the NCAA took away PSU's acredidation but punishing the program that was used as the cover for child abuse is not wrong and there is no real rebuttal outside of people protecting thier own interests or trying to show how smart they are by playing the contrarian.
No you don't.
Nor does any of these students who are "outraged". None of you REALLY care about the victims....it just sounds like the right thing to say.B/c if you and all of them really cared this would be a perfectly acceptable punishment.
Furthermore, look...what did you expect? This happened on campus...in the stadium facilities....and Pedo-rno knew about it....did nothing....but continued to pretend he was a saint. Ok, so he's dead now....does that mean he should get off clean?
Personally, I think the FBI and NCAA knows MORE details than what was released to the public. This punishment may be harsh to PSU supporters, but I'm sure the publuc wasnt told 100% of the entire situation. Sandusky didnt just becoem a pedo in 98 all of a sudden.
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No you don't.
B/c if you and all of them really cared this would be a perfectly acceptable punishment.
Furthermore, look...what did you expect? This happened on campus...in the stadium facilities....and Pedo-rno knew about it....did nothing....but continued to pretend he was a saint. Ok, so he's dead now....does that mean he should get off clean?
Personally, I think the FBI and NCAA knows MORE details than what was released to the public. This punishment may be harsh to PSU supporters, but I'm sure the publuc wasnt told 100% of the entire situation. Sandusky didnt just becoem a pedo in 98 all of a sudden.
I agree. I do get the sense of "let me get the formalities of saying I care for the students out of the way before I focus on who I REALLY want to be mad at for attacking PSU" type reaction.
No you don't.
B/c if you and all of them really cared this would be a perfectly acceptable punishment.
Furthermore, look...what did you expect? This happened on campus...in the stadium facilities....and Pedo-rno knew about it....did nothing....but continued to pretend he was a saint. Ok, so he's dead now....does that mean he should get off clean?
Personally, I think the FBI and NCAA knows MORE details than what was released to the public. This punishment may be harsh to PSU supporters, but I'm sure the publuc wasnt told 100% of the entire situation. Sandusky didnt just becoem a pedo in 98 all of a sudden.
Exactly.... they say they care...but honestly don't. OK so what if the NCAA abused its power? I'm supposed to be more mad at that than the power structure that covered up for a peso so that the school's football program and image wasn't tainted?
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thats the feeling I get from most PSU supporters, students, and alums too. One dude went out and said this is their 9/11No you don't.
B/c if you and all of them really cared this would be a perfectly acceptable punishment.
Furthermore, look...what did you expect? This happened on campus...in the stadium facilities....and Pedo-rno knew about it....did nothing....but continued to pretend he was a saint. Ok, so he's dead now....does that mean he should get off clean?
Personally, I think the FBI and NCAA knows MORE details than what was released to the public. This punishment may be harsh to PSU supporters, but I'm sure the publuc wasnt told 100% of the entire situation. Sandusky didnt just becoem a pedo in 98 all of a sudden.
I do agree the NCAA overstepped their boundaries, but if there was a case when they should.... um... this one.
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You guys are damn sick that you've got a 1000 reply thread talking about this, but it's okay to assume that all y'all care so much about the victims because, hey, who wouldn't? But when one PSU supporter on the board wants to talk about it, regardless of the fact that there is a 1000 reply thread with the rest of yall talking about, he must not give a damn because he made the mistake of being born in central PA and loving PSU growing up. And I happen to be saying the exact same thing that national pundits who aren't involved with PSU at all are saying. The hell is wrong with you people? (yeah I said you people)
I didn't read your gigantic thread, but I know it ain't 1000 replies of people weeping over victims. This moral grandstanding has to end.
I didn't read your gigantic thread, but I know it ain't 1000 replies of people weeping over victims. This moral grandstanding has to end.