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It was not White people that set up those arrange marriages. It was Black families that set up those arranged marriages. It usually happened when the girl's family found out that she was sexually active with a boy. The girl's family usually forced the marriage, because everybody knew what was going to eventually happen if the kids kept having sex.

This goes to a bigger issue though. Just 40 years ago the Black community frowned upon women walking around pregnant if she was not married. Then that shacking up shyt started and that opened pandora's box on women heading single family households. It has been an all around disaster and created an permanent underclass of women and children in our society that can never leave the lower end of the socioeconomic ladder. It is sad.
The laws played a massive role. It was illegal in this country to live together without being married in many states. It's a lot easier to be a single mother living off the system with aid than it is to be living with a nickel and dime man and you are nickel and diming as well. Now things have changed for many BM due to warehouse jobs which means BM earns a livable wage so maybe there is room for change but why would BW want to do this? Go to LSA, do you really think they want to do this? Think about this, when you were posting ADOS shyt, you had about 6-8 women dapping you religiously? Correct? Now, you post this, and the only one to dap you is @HarlemHottie, a married woman who has the life 99% of them WANT. Come on son, be realistic. You sound like me with the pro-black shyt back in the days. No one wants to do it on one side. Some people rather burn it down than fix it. Many in fact.

I am no longer pro-black. I am pro-Black professionals and my nikkas and sistas who want to build a legacy but Black folks are done dawg. They done. You can ADOS this and ADOS that but many have quit on us. It is what it is. I learned that the right thing is the wrong answer for many people. The Color Purple mindset and the BM is the devil mindset is locked and loaded in BW to the point, they see us as ones with limited use. Like a fukking battery. It is what it is.

BW don't need a man in 2021 for survival. They needed one in 1940 for survival. BW might not thrive in 2021 but they will survive. BM are the ones who are barely surviving. This ain't their problem bro, this is our problem.
 
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Im confused on what point you're trying to make.

Quitting porn, stopping simping, eating right, working on a skill or trade are things any able bodied man can do.

Simply being in shape and dressing right alone will put you in the sexual top 20 percent in most circles.

Self discipline
The point I'm trying to make is that the standard will always rise as women's financial independence leaves no incentive for a limit on emphasizing superficial qualities.

The last sentence is an oversimplification. Simply blaming men isn't the answer anymore.
 

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Societal changes have made men less viable as long term partners :manny:

Bad economy means more men are broke and thus unattractive :manny:


Also guys have less masculine energy thanks to the changing world (more office jobs, more urbanization, technology, changing cultural norms), and thus are unattractive :manny:
Facts. This is why shy men should work out and/or take up a fighting sport. No excuse for all these feminine men running around out here
 
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So just FWB status eternally. so you plan to do this until death, assuming after a certain point men will find you as a suitable option opposed to a woman younger than you?

I don’t consider a boyfriend the same as a friends with benefit. There is a deeper level of commitment in a relationship, there’s love, more romance, exclusivity and a bit more integration into each other’s lives, versus an fwb. So no neither me or my boyfriend consider our relationship to be an eternal fwb status.

And Suitable option? For what? I’ve said I don’t value marriage and am indifferent to getting married because I’m fine with my life as is. What am i waiting to be considered a suitable option for? You’ll have to clarify what you mean.

as an FYI, I don’t have an issue with men choosing not to get married because they can’t find a woman that they deem marriageable based on their own criteria/standards. I imagine there are many women who feel the same. Hence this article. I think like minded men and women who value marriage are definitely out there—they will continue to get married, as they should.

those who don’t desire it, for whatever the reason, will not, and probably should not because they are probably more likely to walk away/not take it as seriously as those who do value marriage.
 

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I don’t believe that part in the last paragraph bout dudes getting their ass whooped into marriage :comeon:
Because it's an exaggeration without context. If you knocked the woman up yeah that marriage might get expedited to make her "honorable" but men wasn't getting jumped into marriage cause they courted somebody for 6 months.
 

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I don’t consider a boyfriend the same as a friends with benefit. There is a deeper level of commitment in a relationship, there’s love, more romance, exclusivity and a bit more integration into each other’s lives, versus an fwb. So no neither me or my boyfriend consider our relationship to be an eternal fwb status.

And Suitable option? For what? I’ve said I don’t value marriage and am indifferent to getting married because I’m fine with my life as is. What am i waiting to be considered a suitable option for? You’ll have to clarify what you mean.

as an FYI, I don’t have an issue with men choosing not to get married because they can’t find a woman that they deem marriageable based on their own criteria/standards. I imagine there are many women who feel the same. Hence this article. I think like minded men and women who value marriage are definitely out there—they will continue to get married, as they should.

those who don’t desire it, for whatever the reason, will not, and probably should not because they are probably more likely to walk away/not take it as seriously as those who do value marriage.
Caramel, would you be open to an arranged marriage. I know you can easily get a man so that's not my question, my question is would you be open to this?
 

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The point I'm trying to make is that the standard will always rise as women's financial independence leaves no incentive for a limit on emphasizing superficial qualities.

The last sentence is an oversimplification. Simply blaming men isn't the answer anymore.

Women follow what men do. No matter what their education status, income, or looks. Men who are on their game healthwise, have decent jobs, and understand masculinity (important) dont have problems with women who aren't birds.

There are exceptions to every rule, but generally Women don't date down, don't want to be leaders, will follow successful men that at least somewhat fit their physical preferences, and practice hyperglycemia. None of that has changed or ever will change since the stone age.

Instead of complaining, men who spend more time whining and focusing on women need to look at what the top men in their social circle are doing and take notes. Guarantee most of it is simple shyt that alot of brehs aren't doing.
 

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You are a c*nt, through and through. You were no raised right and your story reflects poorly on your father.



You brought an anecdote to the story, one that continues you trend of throwing shade on black men and serves as an example of you trying to stand in the way of support a black man was receiving.

You behaved as though you were some person who profited from a lack of support after turning 18. When pressed, you brought up the government programs that were available to you at the time.

Here is a question for you, if the government initiatives get cut, who is going to provide the next set of people coming up with support?

Moreover, how am I wrong when I haven't drawn a comparison between the success of people who stay at home and the success of people who move out young?

Although you are dishonest conclusions, which is about what I would expect from you. There are other variables: support someone received when moving out, support someone received when purchasing their first home.
Once again, when somebody brings facts that you don’t like to the table, you become unhinged, angry and just straight up bytchy.

Grow up. Your whole shytty hypothesis is stupid.
1.) The idea I’m trying to take support away from young blk males, is a sorry way to virtue signal to other dikkless lames that Booksnrain “allegedly” doesn’t like blk men.
:mjlol:In reality, you and the reject squad don’t like me b/c you oversensitively interpret any critique I have as hate. Meanwhile in this thread I’ve honestly critiqued both young blk males AND females (hell the chicks staying at home trying to push off babies on granny was most prevalent in my head), then followed up with personal anecdotes about training I received growing up that is largely absent from generations today.

These changes to our education system not properly training students, along with a shytty economy and delayed adolescence are interconnected factors that serve as origins and effects of what we have going on today.

Then when your slow ass thought you were doing something injecting absolute drivel into a discussion between me and other posters who agreed, it alll went downhill from there. Then when I pulled up actual studies demonstrating that prolonged periods of staying at home with parents does NOT in fact lead to better outcomes….by that point you were foaming at the mouth, utterly irrational, bringing up irrelevant posts, bytching, whining…the works.

You just don’t have the necessary skills needed to engage in these discussions without losing your shyt. So I’m putting you on ignore for your own good. You’ve completely lost it in here.
Read more. bytch less. Stop thinking I’m the enemy for being honest b/c at this point I’m embarrassed for you.

BTW thanks for the rep from those following this thread as we make sense of this crazy world. I won’t waste any more time going back and forth There’s another really interesting study on black emergent adults. I’ll see if I can find it.
 

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Its crazy because if anything poor ppl should be cohabitation more
They could be… just because one is unmarried doesn’t mean they aren’t in a relationship or dating or cohabitating. Personally I don’t see why people who cohabitate don’t just get married—that makes more sense to me. If we’re going to be living together, sharing bills and expenses and having kids together, why not get married as it offers more protection and respect for that situation.

based on income, I am upper middle, and for me cohabitating doesn’t seem worth it. Besides saving us both money, i think it can be messy and makes little sense—might as well get married which offers more protection and benefits.


I do think poor people more than anyone benefit from marriage because they can share expenses, save, provide stability to children (should they have any). Additionally based on all the obstacles your likely to go through as a poor person in this country, having a partner that has your back, may help—idk. On the other hand I completely understand why someone who can barely provide for themselves would find it difficult to even consider helping provide for a family. It’s a tough situation.
 

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I don’t consider a boyfriend the same as a friends with benefit. There is a deeper level of commitment in a relationship, there’s love, more romance, exclusivity and a bit more integration into each other’s lives, versus an fwb. So no neither me or my boyfriend consider our relationship to be an eternal fwb status.

And Suitable option? For what? I’ve said I don’t value marriage and am indifferent to getting married because I’m fine with my life as is. What am i waiting to be considered a suitable option for? You’ll have to clarify what you mean.

as an FYI, I don’t have an issue with men choosing not to get married because they can’t find a woman that they deem marriageable based on their own criteria/standards. I imagine there are many women who feel the same. Hence this article. I think like minded men and women who value marriage are definitely out there—they will continue to get married, as they should.

those who don’t desire it, for whatever the reason, will not, and probably should not because they are probably more likely to walk away/not take it as seriously as those who do value marriage.
There is a diff in yout pov lol. Only thing keeping the BF/GF nonsense a float is prostitution being illegal
 
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