“Men Need To Be Emotionially Vulnerable w/ Women Even If Women Use It To Attack Them Later! Men ARE PUSSIE & Weak, You’re Not Owed Kindness!”

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You gotta choose the right one. Cats are always telling women to choose better, but its as much of a factor for us as it is them.

But even when you choose a good woman, you gotta remember that you are still a man. Women look for a certain level of emotional evenness from men and that's never going to change. We're never gonna express like them, and that's ok. Your woman should want you to open up and you should be willing to be vulnerable in that safe space she tries to create for you. But she should also understand that you not gonna do it like her. And as a man, you also gotta be willing to communicate clearly what you need and not just bottle shyt up.

More Black men need to practice some light stoicism. It can help brehs be disciplined and learn what can/should be shared and how. Too many emotionally unregulated cats walking around, thinking they emotionally even keeled when really they irrational and emotional af, just not with tears but with anger.
 

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Men and women are not the same. Ive been telling thecolis members that they need to work on their emotional intelligence as black men. But mens job is to have emotional intelligence/knowledge of self in order to be self governing. And so that we can be solutions based and find answers to our problems.



Its not so we can be blithering messes of a man,confessing our problems,and putting our emotional burdens on our women. Our jobs are to be your cpunselors and psychiatrist when you are emotional wrecks. You are the waves,we are the unmoving,righteously unnaffected rocks in the ocean:respect:

If you're reacting to this it's because nobody has broken down practically HOW men are supposed to be vulnerable.

Being vulnerable as a man means explaining what's bothering you and then saying what you're going to do about it.

Women will complain about a problem ad nauseum because feminine emotional vulnerability means talking about the issue over and over again until it no longer bothers them. They are disgusted by a man who expresses emotional vulnerability the way a woman does.

A masculine expression looks like "yeah my dog died. I'm sad about it cause he's been with me for years and through my struggles. Life won't be the same without him but it is what it is. I'm heading out later to bury him and say goodbye so I'm going to bed early. Gonna be a long drive to get there"

A feminine expression involves tears and "what am I going to do? This is so awful" and variations on that sentiment.

Bingo.

At the same time, if your woman hears these expressions and doesn't at least try to offer some support or help you in some way, she should be in the bushes.

Dudes who are walking financial sponsors and therapists for their girls who then can't even get some support when expressing these things...those dudes are clowns.
 

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The women that do shyt like that ain't built for a man with emotional intelligence. A man with emotional intelligence will tell them "You've used things I've told you in confidence against me when I've never done that to you. Why do you think I should trust you when you've given me reasons not to? Why do you think it's acceptable to behave that way to someone you say you value?"

I've been in that situation and called them out. Other women don't check them, but their parents do and their man(if he has emotional intelligence) will. I think it's part of the reason why some women purposefully choose men who aren't eloquent enough to express how fukked up their behavior is. They can sense when a man isn't food and they'll either keep their distance or be more drawn to him because he gives her the boundaries that other men in her life didn't. He values himself and gives her the sense that if he's walking away, it's because of indefensible behavior on her part.
It's the same reason women simultaneously desire men of s certain caliber but don't always date them. Some of them know those men have higher standards and won't put up with quarrelsome, manipulative behavior
 

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If you're reacting to this it's because nobody has broken down practically HOW men are supposed to be vulnerable.

Being vulnerable as a man means explaining what's bothering you and then saying what you're going to do about it.

Women will complain about a problem ad nauseum because feminine emotional vulnerability means talking about the issue over and over again until it no longer bothers them. They are disgusted by a man who expresses emotional vulnerability the way a woman does.

A masculine expression looks like "yeah my dog died. I'm sad about it cause he's been with me for years and through my struggles. Life won't be the same without him but it is what it is. I'm heading out later to bury him and say goodbye so I'm going to bed early. Gonna be a long drive to get there"

A feminine expression involves tears and "what am I going to do? This is so awful" and variations on that sentiment.
Respectfully diasagree…. “It is what it is” as a man, there is no way you can go entirely through life with no feelings shyt will consume you… wanna know how I know? cuz I used to be JUST like that….. and my father used to be like that…. And my grandfather too… and it did nothing but send them to an early grave.

SO WHILE I DO AGREE, men have to be much more practical, even keeled, short to the point and show less emotion… and true most women don’t wanna see a nikka constantly getting sensitive in front of them….acting like don’t shyt bother you is an easy way to eventually blow up or internally stress yourself to an early death….

That doesn’t mean you should have pity parties, or cry in front of your woman all the time but acting like nothing phases you is not always the answer neither
 

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Respectfully diasagree…. “It is what it is” as a man, there is no way you can go entirely through life with no feelings shyt will consume you… wanna know how I know? cuz I used to be JUST like that….. and my father used to be like that…. And my grandfather too… and it did nothing but send them to an early grave.

SO WHILE I DO AGREE, men have to be much more practical, even keeled, short to the point and show less emotion… and true most women don’t wanna see a nikka constantly getting sensitive in front of them….acting like don’t shyt bother you is an easy way to eventually blow up or internally stress yourself to an early death….

That doesn’t mean you should have pity parties, or cry in front of your woman all the time but acting like nothing phases you is not always the answer neither
I think you missed the essence of my post. I'm not saying don't act like it doesn't bother you, I'm saying they want to know that something bothers you AND you're going to do something about it.

Masculinity is closely associated with action, independence, and risk. When women see men being indecisive, requiring others to tell them what to do or guide them, and playing it safe to the point where they don't try anything different or new, they lose interest.

It's a simple formula:
X happened+Y is how it made me feel+I will do Z= the solution for resolving those feelings. Women recognize men as solution oriented to the point where it's a common irritant in communication. A woman will pose a problem to a listening man. The man will react by offering a solution. She will get angry because she didn't ask you for a solution, she wanted you to just listen to what she's saying.

But for a lot of us, we don't want to just have misery dumped on us. It makes us feel powerless and it's an irritating feeling to just have someone tell you all these problems and issues and then leave you with a feeling of "There's nothing I can do to help". Women hate feeling that way too ironically, but they can stomach it when it's another woman dumping her trauma and stress on her. They can't tolerate it when it's a man doing that. They want you to give into the masculine impulse to solve YOUR problems, but not theirs. So you're not going to sit there for 30 min going on and on about what's bothering you, you're going to state it all in less than 5 minutes. If she offers a hug or to make you a meal or something else that lifts your mood, she's expecting you to accept that because to her it shows vulnerability in willing to accept help. She's not offering to solve your problem, she's offering to make it more bearable. If you let her help ease the pain it's vulnerability. If you refuse it's stubbornness and toxic masculinity.
 
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Men and women are not the same. Ive been telling thecolis members that they need to work on their emotional intelligence as black men. But mens job is to have emotional intelligence/knowledge of self in order to be self governing. And so that we can be solutions based and find answers to our problems.



Its not so we can be blithering messes of a man,confessing our problems,and putting our emotional burdens on our women. Our jobs are to be your cpunselors and psychiatrist when you are emotional wrecks. You are the waves,we are the unmoving,righteously unnaffected rocks in the ocean
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A therapist said exactly the same thing and advised a woman against dating a man who shows up differently.

 
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