Metta World Peace: Kobe Bryant's Career Plans Pushed Dwight Howard Out of LA

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Pau was getting serious MVP nods after a month of playing great? Stop. I clearly remember what went down but let's not exaggerate. Pau was playing great and Kobe did come back on some bull, but let's not act like you can get serious MVP nods after a month.
 

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its :manny: :heh:a more efficient kobe with a whole lotta help brought us 5 ships so all we can do now is sit back and watch how this shyt is going to end. :pachaha:

Fixed. So the fate of the franchise going forward is not important? :wtf: Being a key cog in 5 championship teams excuses a nikka putting himself over the team that you root for and possibly hurting the chances of the team to win more going forward? :dwillhuh:
 

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Pau was getting serious MVP nods after a month of playing great? Stop. I clearly remember what went down but let's not exaggerate. Pau was playing great and Kobe did come back on some bull, but let's not act like you can get serious MVP nods after a month.

Pau was playing MVP caliber ball VERY early in the season. The only people saying he was the best player on the Lakers were the usual trolls. Pau's level of play dropped off as the season went on because he was just gassed.

Pau's hamstring problems were because he (along with Kobe) had been playing more basketball than any other player in the league over a three year span.
 

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well..show me a link where Pau Gasol was a legit mvp canidate and/or where there was chatter of him being better than Kobe. That shyts laughable. And im still trying to figure out what "span" youre referring to where Kobe all of a suddent started taking 25-30 shots a game.

Kobe Bryant 2010-11 Game Log | Basketball-Reference.com

In fact the stats show he actually shot MORE towards the beginning of the season with the latter part of the season being a mix of a few high FGA games mixed in with alot games under 20 FGA. There is no consistent span that season where Kobe repeatedly took a large volume of shots. In fact, Kobe shot less than 20 FGA for more than half of the season.
That is what im talkin about . Havent you been following :mindblown: ?? i said "at the beginning of the season". We started 8-0 that year. A lot of those games were blowout. But Kobe would start takin a lot of shots and miss quite a few of them. Teams got back in those games and Phil was forced to put Gasol back in. His Hamstring gave up on him not too long after that too.
the 25-30 shots a game is an exaggeration on my part to illustrate how many shots kobe was takin in a 30-33 minute span. Dude fukked up the whole offense.

look at Gasol's game log Pau Gasol 2010-11 Game Log | Basketball-Reference.com and how kobe's assertiveness forced him fall wayyyyy back (:heh: ).




Pau was playing MVP caliber ball VERY early in the season. The only people saying he was the best player on the Lakers were the usual trolls. Pau's level of play dropped off as the season went on because he was just gassed.

Pau's hamstring problems were because he (along with Kobe) had been playing more basketball than any other player in the league over a three year span.


You only telling partial truths brehs. THe only reason gasol wore out is because he had to play a lot of minutes for us to win even though we had leads in a lot of these games. Kobe my nicca but you have to admit he sabotaged that whole year with his antics:manny: The chemistry was fukked for the remainder of the season.
 

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You only telling partial truths brehs. The only reason gasol wore out is because he had to play a lot of minutes for us to win even though we had leads in a lot of these games. Kobe my nicca but you have to admit he sabotaged that whole year with his antics:manny: The chemistry was fukked for the remainder of the season.


I'm not telling partial truths, we just coming to completely different conclusions.

Yes Pau was playing MVP caliber ball at the start of the season, but Kobe was playing during that stretch also and was still talking a large number of shots.

Chemistry had dikk to do with the Lakers "Struggling" that season. Our core was gassed and that showed in the playoffs. They had played more basketball than any other core group of players in the league because of three straight trips to the finals, the Olympics and international play. They'd go on long winning streaks then go on long losing streaks and even then they won 57 games.
 

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Well the consensus says Dwight Howard is a weak as clown.

I concur.
Consensus of butthurt laker fans, then yes.
At this point, I'd take Stan Van Gundy's word over anyone elses. He has all the reason in the world to hate, and even he said "Dwight was clearly injured" since the actual doctor reports wasn't good enough for you guys.
His "down year" he averaged about 18pt./13rbs. on a terrible team that has Dantoni as coach
For you or anyone to think that is the best we'll see from Howard? Like :what:
Nah, reality is :umad: There isn't a better center in the league. There was centers who were on better teams with better coaches in better positions in the league. But heads up, nobody fukkin with Dwight and you we all know this.
I think Laker fans deep down inside knew all along Howard wouldn't stay. You could tell by some of his comments during the season
Just how shyt played out, you knew he was gone. Now he's hated? :bryan:

Enjoy that lottery spot Laker fans...
 

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No I'm not saying that. Kobe is a 5 time champ. That's what he's worth to me. That's what his career should be based on. But this is a new era

These teams are stacking up. Stars are joining other stars to make super teams. While the big 3 in Boston was trades, they spoke before and planned that and asked for it. Rodman (4 or 5 time champ, first ballot HOF, greatest rebounder ever) did join up with Jordan. Drexler and Barkley joined up with the Dream. Not to mention the spurs don't leave in free agency. It's not even a flirtation with other teams. Shaq asked to be traded away from Kobe. Bynum didn't give two shyts about staying with Kobe. But pippen never left Jordan.

Now look as more people join up. People like melo demanded to go to ny with amare. Lebron and bosh. Etc etc etc

The way Kobe is and always has been rubs people the wrong way. He's arrogant and we all know it. He rides your ass like he's the coach and we all see it. He's tough as hell on his teammates. shyt he even tough on opposing players in all star games like what he did to lebron the past two years. nikka even shytted on Phil when he left the first time.

Dude is cut throat and the whole league knows it. They respect his game and respect his rings but other players don't want to deal with him for 82 games a year. Maybe a role player. But if you a star, like nelly said.....

You want to go to place that your stats WILL go down and when something goes wrong, they looking at you off top while Kobe gets no blame AND shyts on you in public and private.
His way has netted rings for his teammates though. you think k his teammates want to trade those rings and prestige of being called champion so they can have bffs?
 

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Like I said b4, Dwight is too soft to snatch the team away from Kobe. The tone of the season was set once Kobe said "this is my team" at training camp last year and Dwight came back with some weak "this is our team" shyt :heh:
The bytchass Kobe I mean Laker fan base made it damn near impossible for Howard to "snatch" the team. Kobe wasn't going to sacrifice any for Howard, and you fans justify ad excuse anything Kobe does. Howard may have bytchass tendencies himself, but it's amazing that Lakers fans refuse to hold Kobe accountable for anything. You can't even question Kobe without being attacked.

Did anybody hear Bynum's recent comments? He took a shot at Kobe too on some slick shyt. People need to face it, Kobe is a hard cat to play with and a lot of players seemingly aren't too fond of it.
 

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The bytchass Kobe I mean Laker fan base made it damn near impossible for Howard to "snatch" the team. Kobe wasn't going to sacrifice any for Howard, and you fans justify ad excuse anything Kobe does. Howard may have bytchass tendencies himself, but it's amazing that Lakers fans refuse to hold Kobe accountable for anything. You can't even question Kobe without being attacked.

Did anybody hear Bynum's recent comments? He took a shot at Kobe too on some slick shyt. People need to face it, Kobe is a hard cat to play with and a lot of players seemingly aren't too fond of it.

What i implied is that Dwight should have called out Kobe publicly and dictate the narrative. He sat back like a bytch and let people blame him for the terrible perimeter defense(which was LAL biggest problem last yr)
go read my comments :stopitslime: :ufdup:
 

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What i implied is that Dwight should have called out Kobe publicly and dictate the narrative. He sat back like a bytch and let people blame him for the terrible perimeter defense(which was LAL biggest problem last yr)
go read my comments :stopitslime: :ufdup:
My post wasn't just about what you personally have or haven't said. I understood what you said. My point is that Lakers fans made it impossible for Howard to publicly call Kobe out because they literally treat Kobe like he's their god. Lakers fans justify everything Kobe does and they refuse to hold him accountable for anything. Dwight obviously saw this, and anybody paying attention can see it too.
 

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Why is it hard for people to understand that Dwight Left because he wanted to play with a better team and a better player at this point in harden

Harden has the play making and pocket pass ability to get Dwight points. Kobe doesn't.

If winning is the main objective, leaving for Houston was a no brainer at this point.
 
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