Metta World Peace: Kobe Bryant's Career Plans Pushed Dwight Howard Out of LA
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Harden will never be better than Kobe at anything
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Kobe Averaged more assists last season than Harden did.
Kobe AND Nash did everything they could to get Dwight easy buckets. The problem was he didn't want it. Dwight wanted the ball fed to him in the post so he could try and show off his wack post game. He's most effective in the pick and roll but Dwight was out there setting the most pathetic screens I've ever seen.
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Kobe will be the reason why the lakers won't win any titles anytime soon
Yup, played like a bytch even though he was put in sets with nash that really catered to his game. Maybe McHale will be able to convince him.
Kobe Averaged more assists last season than Harden did.
Kobe AND Nash did everything they could to get Dwight easy buckets. The problem was he didn't want it. Dwight wanted the ball fed to him in the post so he could try and show off his wack post game. He's most effective in the pick and roll but Dwight was out there setting the most pathetic screens I've ever seen.
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Who's the reason the Bulls havent won shyt without Michael Jordan?
Front office moves have been more bad than good and not being able to draw key free agents when they had ample cap space twice
What's the reason you're a lakers dikkrider from cleveland,Ohio?
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Rodman didn't team up with Jordan on his own volition though. He was traded because the Spurs were tired of his shyt.
Pippen didn't leave MJ because he was perfectly happy with being #2. That's something Dwight didn't want to do regardless of how long Kobe was going to play. It's why Shaq left as well because he was pushed out by management as they saw Kobe as the new #1.
You mention Pippen but fail to acknowledge that Gasol has been Kobe's #2 since 2007 and has championed for him over and over and over again. Kobe is the only reason Gasol is still on the Lakers. Otherwise Mitch would've dumped him when Pau started becoming less efficient and effective.
Barkley teamed up with the Rockets because he wanted one last shot at a championship. Same thing with the Celtics. These weren't guys in their primes looking to make a dynasty. They were trying to finish off their careers having accomplished something they hadn't.
They joined up partly because they saw the Lakers and Celtics with very talented teams assemble and were tired of getting their asses kicked. Bron and Dwight got stopped by the Celtics and Magic for 3 straight years. Melo couldn't get past the WCF in the Western conference. DWill got shytted on the Kobe and the Lakers 3 years in a row.
Their blueprint started with the Lakers and Celtics.
The difference is that Kobe for better and worse, put the onus on Mitch and ownership to make it happen instead of getting involved in trying to openly recruit players through the media and whatnot. After the Bynum incident he's pretty much stayed out of management talks except to say that he believes in Mitch or that he'd like the team to stay together.
Of course, like I said, he's from a different era. He's not going to pander to others' egos. The new players will.
Just how do you know your stats will go down? Pau Gasol was never more efficient than with the Lakers. In fact, he was never mentioned in the top PF category until he teamed up with Kobe. Lamar didn't see significant drops. He was more efficient. The semi-star players that saw their stats go down were Metta and Nash. They were #1's on their previous teams and moved to different roles. And the role players? Farmar, Ariza, Fisher, Vujacic, Barnes, Brown, Walton, Parker, etc, etc, were all better on the Lakers.
You can't have it both ways tho. You can't say people are happy being number 2 to Jordan and then question why nobody is happy being number 2 to Kobe. Gasol averaged 20 before the trade. Averages 18 most seasons on the lakers. And 13 last season. Hes an all time great??? who in the fukk thinks that?? at no point and time are those numbers great. shyt bynum had stats like those. He aint great now. Let alone all time. Like dude said, Phil Jackson even said dude sabotaged the offense.
Rodman, like most dudes you named, was asked before the trade if he wanted to come. When dealing with stars, most are approached by the team before. Nobody trading for people who don't wanna be there
Celtics won in 2008. So 5 years ago they was past their prime?? They invented big 3. Cause they were all the stars and leaders of their teams. The league damn sure didn't think they was past their prime then.
Everything else you said was on point. I give you that. But my main point is people talking bout that 50 mil. Like all the sudden, the league gonna change its mind and suddenly lebron melo and whoever else is gonna wanna play there. Being 2nd man. Averaging 12 shots a game. Ain't happening
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Oh and pippen wasn't happy. He still hates on Michael with the sideways talk. Remember him throwing chairs when they wouldn't let him be the man even after Jordan. His whole career is summed up as "you ain't shyt without mj" I wouldn't say he was happy. He just knew better than to leave cause he was getting rings. It speaks volumes when STARS know you're a top 5 player EVER and they still won't play with you. Not gasol. Super fukking stars. Max contract guys. That's who the lakers THINK they gonna get next year.
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Ask shaq....
Front office moves have been more bad than good and not being able to draw key free agents when they had ample cap space twice
What's the reason you're a lakers dikkrider from cleveland,Ohio?
I'ma Lakers fan for over 18 years though....and ride or die with my team and it's players
What's the reason you dikkride LeBron James from Ohio, who played for the RIVAL Cleveland Cavs and now plays for the RIVAL Miami Heat (he even ended your team's playoff run) over Chicago's own Derrick Rose who plays for and has only played for the Chicago Bulls?
You disgust me
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So, when have the Lakers had salary cap space to sign "Super fukking Stars"?
The last time was in 1996 and we signed Shaquille O'Neal
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What's the reason you dikkride LeBron James from Ohio, who played for the RIVAL Cleveland Cavs and now plays for the RIVAL Miami Heat (he even ended your team's playoff run) over Chicago's own Derrick Rose who plays for and has only played for the Chicago Bulls?
You disgust me
I dikkride no man.I'm a lebron FAN The same way people all over the world were fans of MJ back in the day cuz lebron is the best player in the nba
a guy from ohio who's a laker stan and overcompensates by making laker related threads daily is disgusted 
the irony
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Shaquille O'Neal says he never had 'real dislike' for Kobe Bryant - Los Angeles Times - April 3rd, 2013:
Before Shaquille O'Neal's jersey retirement ceremony during halftime of Tuesday night's game at Staples Center, the former Laker superstar talked about the team's current one.
"There's two different types of dislike: there's an athletic dislike and a real dislike. We never had a real dislike," O'Neal said of Kobe Bryant. "Every time I see his lovely wife and his beautiful children, I always go to his children and say, 'Hello babies, I'm uncle Shaq."
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"We haven't played since 2004 -- nine, 10 years later -- and you're still talking about the so-called beef we had? ... I know you all have brothers and sisters, I know you all have disagreements and arguments, but you still love them," O'Neal said. "He's my teammate, he's my brother. I'm proud to call him both."
O'Neal and Bryant won championships together in 2000, 2001 and 2002 -- but they couldn't get along. Bryant questioned O'Neal's work ethic and thought he didn't keep himself in good enough shape. O'Neal thought Bryant was selfish.
When their discord reached a fever pitch in 2004, Lakers owner Jerry Buss had a decision to make. He chose Bryant, and traded O'Neal to the Miami Heat.
O'Neal said he wants his and Bryant's shared legacy to be their success, not their struggles.
"I actually get tired of talking about it," O'Neal said. "I wish you guys would just say that we were the most dominant one-two punch ever created. That's what I would like to read because that's what I know we were."
O'Neal said that he wouldn't change a thing from their playing days, but he did acknowledge that their bickering might have greatly cost the Lakers.
When asked if they would have won more championships had they remained together, O'Neal didn't hesitate in his response.
"Of course," he said.
