Michigan mother jailed for refusing to vaccinate her son

[Mowgli]

You're the one being emotional. Your entire argument is premised on "concerned mother" and "if you had kids." You're dismissing statistics and all facts that show otherwise to appease your own emotions.

They are your kids. You get to make those decisions. When you want to bring your kids around other people's kids you need to take those other parents and their children into consideration which you clearly are not. Personal responsibility is a two way street,

Im not dismissing anything.

Im understanding why a mother wouldnt want to give her kid vaccines, as a parent.

Despite improvements in safety kids are still having effects. The stats for some parents clearly arent good enough to take that risk.


"Wuh well those parents are dumb"

Got it little buddy

 

[wickedsm]

The argument you can make is these kids got fukked up and i dont want my kids to get fukt up therefore i will not. Not against shots but i understand why a mother would be. Someone who doesnt understand probably diesnt have kids or takes a drs word like it came from God

Meanwhile 200k americans dead a year from bad dr advice i understand a mothers concern

Why did she lie to the judge and her ex-husband?
Why lie in court and agree to something you know you have no intention of following through on the agreement?

Clearly this has been an ongoing issue or she never would have been held in contempt.

If she is seriously just a mother with great concern of the potential danger of vaccines why not fight it from jump in court?
Why agree to it?

Because she didn't want to lose primary custody, that's why.

Well now she's locked up and has at least lost custody temporarily and the fact that she can't be trusted to follow through on custody and court agreements doesn't bode well for her future custody cases.

All this and I'm sure the dad has already brought him to get vaccinations started.

 

[Pressure]

Im not dismissing anything.

Im understanding why a mother wouldnt want to give her kid vaccines, as a parent.

Despite improvements in safety kids are still having effects. The stats for some parents clearly arent good enough to take that risk.


"Wuh well those parents are dumb"

Got it little buddy

The long term complications from measles are a greater risk than the complications of the vaccine.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

She's in jail because she violated a court order, not because she didn't vaccinate her kid.

Why y'all still arguing about something that has NOTHING to do with why she's behind bars?????

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[Pressure]

She's in jail because she violated a court order, not because she didn't vaccinate her kid.

Why y'all still arguing about something that has NOTHING to do with why she's behind bars?????

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Because that's what we do in HL.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Because that's what we do in HL.

 

[Serious]

Most disingenuous talking points:

Story at-a-glance

• CDC reports that no one in the US has died of measles in the last 12 years. Meanwhile, 98 measles vaccine related deaths were reported to the US government since 2003.
• During that time period, 694 measles vaccine-related disabilities were reported to the Vaccine Adverse Reporting System (VAERS).
• Child mortality due to measles is 200 to 400 times greater in malnourished children in less developed countries than those in developed ones; as nutrition improves, complications and deaths radically diminish.

Have fun I've been going at it with these same posters for like 10 years now....



You should see what they think of HIV / Aids next.
I promise the fukkery will be unmatched....

 

[Pressure]

You didn't know. We make our point early on then do the remake the same points over and over again merry-go-round. It really helps kill time.

 

[Mowgli]

Why did she lie to the judge and her ex-husband?
Why lie in court and agree to something you know you have no intention of following through on the agreement?

Clearly this has been an ongoing issue or she never would have been held in contempt.

If she is seriously just a mother with great concern of the potential danger of vaccines why not fight it from jump in court?
Why agree to it?

Because she didn't want to lose primary custody, that's why.

Well now she's locked up and has at least lost custody temporarily and the fact that she can't be trusted to follow through on custody and court agreements doesn't bode well for her future custody cases.

All this and I'm sure the dad has already brought him to get vaccinations started.

Well my wife agreed to blow me 5 days a week before we got married but in life, things change. I cant say why she changed her mind but clearly, to her they were valid.

The long term complications from measles are a greater risk than the complications of the vaccine.

Yea youre right there.

But tyenchances of having a bad reaction are greater then the chance of getting the measles

She's in jail because she violated a court order, not because she didn't vaccinate her kid.

Why y'all still arguing about something that has NOTHING to do with why she's behind bars?????

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Its an opportunity for the ktl intelligencia to assert their position on parents that dont want to vaccine their kids

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

You didn't know. We make our point early on then do the remake the same points over and over again merry-go-round. It really helps kill time.

I learned my lesson a while back while doing this with fluoride and 9/11 a couple years back.

I figured things had changed in here since back then.

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[Serious]

I learned my lesson a while back while doing this with fluoride and 9/11 a couple years back.

I figured things had changed in here since back then.

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The more shyt changes, the more shyt stays the same.....

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Its an opportunity for the ktl intelligencia to assert their position on parents that dont want to vaccine their kids

As far as what YOU do with YOUR child.......



If I had kids, I'd have them vaccinated for the same reason I'd tell them to wear a condom before engaging in intercourse or wait a while to go swimming after eating.

That's just me, though.

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[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

The more shyt changes, the more shyt stays the same.....

The 'Ignore' function is underutilized.

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[wickedsm]

Well my wife agreed to blow me 5 days a week before we got married but in life, things change. I cant say why she changed her mind but clearly, to her they were valid.

Yea youre right there.

But tyenchances of having a bad reaction are greater then the chance of getting the measles

Its an opportunity for the ktl intelligencia to assert their position on parents that dont want to vaccine their kids

Answer my question

Why. Did. She. lie. To, the. Judge?

She didn't change her mind, it was already an issue for her, that's why it was in their custody agreement.

Whatever your wife agreed to she's not biologically and legally half yours,
I'm also fairly certain she didn't agree to suck you off 5 days a week as part of an actual court approved settlement.

She had no intention of following through, she didn't and now she's locked up.

 

[Pressure]

But tyenchances of having a bad reaction are greater then the chance of getting the measles

Two things:

1.)The chances of catching the measles are low because the vast majority of people Vaccinate.


Number of measles cases by year since 2010
Year Cases
2010 63
2011 220
2012 55
2013 187
2014 667
2015 188
2016* 70
2017** 119


2.)People bring measles into the US from other countries all the time and the people most likely affected are those who have not been vaccinated. I'd imagine if we fleshed out the data, people who are not vaccinated contract measles at a higher rate than adverse side affects of MMR vaccinations.