Midterm Election

[Piff Perkins]

Gun Control breh... its gonna happen

A tragedy worse than Sandy Hook...even younger kids....its all gonna go according to plan and Obama will have somethign to add to his legacy

breh like I said in the PM...if 20+ cac kids getting shot to pieces in Newtown couldn't get moderate gun control measured passed, nothing will. What could be worse than Newtown? Someone walking into a hospital and lighting up the maternity ward with an AR-15?

 

[CASHAPP]

breh like I said in the PM...if 20+ cac kids getting shot to pieces in Newtown couldn't get moderate gun control measured passed, nothing will. What could be worse than Newtown? Someone walking into a hospital and lighting up the maternity ward with an AR-15?

exactly....exactly

 

[CACtain Planet]

How did sidelining Obama work for dems? These cacs...

Obama motivates the base. His mere presence makes a lot of people happy. I understand that southern dems couldn't have Obama too close but outside of the south? SMH. Meanwhile Obama been campaigning on the minimum wage all year and all 5 states that had it on the ballot passed it. Yet Obama's "policies are unpopular" right? smh...

You get the government you vote for...and the government you don't vote for in this case. I don't want to hear any complaining from people. Nearly a million people in Florida won't be getting healthcare now.

And who's fault is that?

 

[Piff Perkins]

And who's fault is that?

Voters or The Supreme Court, you decide.

 

[CACtain Planet]

Voters or The Supreme Court, you decide.

 

[bouncy]

I think this is a blessing because now, when shyt hits the fan, people can't blame no one but themselves. All these racists whites who have an issue with a black man leading(lets not bullshyt ourselves) will have no reason to why shyt is going downhill for them. I want to see how they are going to handle this. You would think after George W.Bush, they would learn. Even after President Obama, you would think everyone come together, and figure out a way to stop the old way of electing politicians to decide our fates, instead of just voting for what we want.

I don't think democratic areas are in a cool lane, but, I think it will be less problematic then republican areas. This country is about to go through a period of a hard ass whipping that has been brought upon itself, because of ego. Why are people so stupid? Blacks who are doing well in those areas, you better protect yourself because history has shown when times get hard, and blacks are doing well in those areas, you will get railroaded. I think this may be a blessing for black folks because we may have to work together and grow. Everything is falling into place. Young blacks are learning racism is still here. We have more knowledge about who we are, and where we stand in this society. And we can see who our enemies are, and it isn't just racist whites. This forcing of coming together may be our chance to build a strong community.

 

[DEAD7]

Spoiler

 

[tru_m.a.c]

@ any of that being "failures of the private sector".

I'm sorry, I must be mistaken, but when your hospital doesn't provide the proper guidelines to its nurses and/or have the proper safety checks, then yes it is the failure of the private sector

 

[DEAD7]

I'm sorry, I must be mistaken, but when your hospital doesn't provide the proper guidelines to its nurses and/or have the proper safety checks, then yes it is the failure of the private sector

Doesnt the dept. of health in each state, provide all the guidelines/standards and issue licenses to all healthcare facilities? If so, govt. wasnt on its job

 

[tru_m.a.c]

Doesnt the dept. of health in each state, provide all the guidelines/standards and issue licenses to all healthcare facilities? If so, govt. wasnt on its job

the guidelines and standards for handling patients with ebola have been in place for 30 years. There is a reason why other facilities in the US that had to handle patients with ebola didn't also have to deal with sick healthcare workers.

And did you just say licensing? As in regulation?

 

[DEAD7]

the guidelines and standards for handling patients with ebola have been in place for 30 years. There is a reason why other facilities in the US that had to handle patients with ebola didn't also have to deal with sick healthcare workers.

And did you just say licensing? As in regulation?

yeah, but doesn't the dept. of health write and enforce the regulations/guidelines?


Or are you saying that they didnt listen in this one facility, and their incompetence is a reflection of the market itself?

 

[tru_m.a.c]

yeah, but doesn't the dept. of health write and enforce the regulations/guidelines?

write and enforce? they suggest and their enforcement is usually held up in yrs of litigation

for a libertarian, you really have no clue what the government actually can and cannot do to private organizations

Or are you saying that they didnt listen in this one facility, and their incompetence is a reflection of the market itself?

the private sector is always right, right?

I'm just saying the healthcare facilities I've worked with knew the proper procedure and protocols and so did my VFD

 

[DEAD7]

write and enforce? they suggest and their enforcement is usually held up in yrs of litigation

for a libertarian, you really have no clue what the government actually can and cannot do to private organizations



the private sector is always right, right?

I'm just saying the healthcare facilities I've worked with knew the proper procedure and protocols and so did my VFD

If they are the enforcers, they are doing more than "suggesting" no?... and "held up in litigation" is part of the problem with govt. regulatory bodies, and an excuse for their incompetence imho.
Let me ask you this, if its on the private sector, as you suggest, whats govt.'s job? what are they responsible for?









oh, and it not always right, it just tends to be better than the unaccountable govt. option.

 

[tru_m.a.c]

If they are the enforcers, they are doing more than "suggesting" no?

Not sure if serious or trolling.

If everyone around the country knows the proper protocol for dealing with ebola patients, but this organization fails to teach and protect their nurses, it's now the Texas Dept of Healths fault for not enforcing the guideline?

sounds like a lack of accountability from Texas Presby.

and "held up in litigation" is part of the problem with govt. regulatory bodies, and an excuse for their incompetence imho.

so now you're arguing that government regulatory bodies don't have enough power

Let me ask you this, if its on the private sector, as you suggest, whats govt.'s job? what are they responsible for?

you think the Texas Department of Health is responsible for the case by case clinical assessment of patients? Because this is what we're talking about here. They did their jobs sir and that was to establish protocol and raise awareness throughout the state on the proper procedures and guidelines necessary to handle Ebola. The real question you should be asking, that you refuse to ask, is what was Texas Health Presbyterians responsibility in all of this?

But naaaaaaaaaah - let's focus on the accountability measures of the department that never actually handled the patient

 

[DEAD7]

Not sure if serious or trolling.

Neither, I have no clue and was genuinely asking...

I think the fallacy of composition you made when you insinuated what was true of this one facility, was a reflection of the private sector as a whole, is where you lost me. Then you went on to say the dept. of health merely suggest guidelines, another point I disagree with.


I'm saying we should hold the body that sets and enforces the rules accountable as well(more so imo), and your saying they aren't accountable.