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Test Suggests 'Black' Man Is Really Not

Wayne Joseph, the principal of a big suburban high school in southern California, had an unequivocal sense of his black heritage, having written extensively about race in America.

But after seeing a TV story last April about a Florida company, DNA Print Genomics, which marketed an ancestry-by-DNA test, he began to wonder exactly how much of him was African, how much wasn't, and what else there might be in his genes.

"I sent away for their kit and received the kit, happened to swab both sides of my cheek and sent the swabs in," Joseph said.

A few weeks later, the results arrived at his comfortable Claremont, Calif., home.

"I just glanced at it, just a cursory glance initially — didn't really notice it much," Joseph said. "Then, I went back to it, because all of a sudden it hit me exactly what I had read. And it read, 57 percent Indo-European, 39 percent Native American, 4 percent East Asian and 0 percent African.

After a lifetime as a black man, Wayne Joseph discovered he probably isn't black at all.

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Test Suggests 'Black' Man Is Really Not
 

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More than likely, he doesn't know who his biological father his, despite his family's representations.

To your point, let's say his mother had an affair with the former baseball player Manny Mota who is from Dominican Republic. Mama Tirico found Manny irresistible while watching him against the Mets at Shea Stadium in 1965 (Little Mike T. was born in 1966).

So if in fact, we learned that Mike Tirico's biological father is actually Dominican, making him Italian and Latino,
would we still be so insistent that he claim his blackness? Probably not.

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latino/hispanic isn't a race, it's a cultural demographic and neither is dominican, which is a nationality. so many mota is a black hispanic/black dominican.

dominicans can be of any race. the vast majority are mixed (like 70% or something), but of the remaining minority % there are actually more whites than blacks.
 
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Augustus F. Hawkins, the first African American from California to be elected to Congress and a champion of workers, fair housing and civil rights, has died. He was 100.

Hawkins, a Democrat who represented South Los Angeles first in the state Legislature and then in Congress for more than half a century, died Saturday at Suburban Hospital in Bethesda, Md., of symptoms related to old age, his niece, Susan Jefferson, said Monday.

He began his public service career in an era that was far less congenial to minority politicians, serving as a state assemblyman from 1935 before winning election to the U.S. House of Representatives in 1962 as the civil rights movement was taking center stage.

By the time he retired in 1990, Hawkins had served as a legislator for much of the 20th century. He also helped form the Congressional Black Caucus in 1971 and was the dean of the caucus when he retired.

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Walter Francis White (July 1, 1893 – March 21, 1955) was an African-American civil rights activist who led the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP) for almost a quarter of a century, 1931–1955, after starting with the organization as an investigator in 1918. He directed a broad program of legal challenges to racial segregation and disfranchisement. He was also a journalist, novelist, and essayist. He graduated in 1916 from Atlanta University (now Clark Atlanta University), a historically black college.

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Halsey with her dad.

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And there are many black women around who look like Kala Rama.

Again, I'm missing the point cause those 3 people are white. You post these pictures to say what?
Who cares who her dad is, there's no guarantees in nature, especially when dealing with DNA. Clearly his genetics failed to be passed to her
I don't know that woman, I just called her Indian cause you said she was. If you would've told me she was African American, I would've accepted that too because she is a typical ambiguous person
 
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After a lifetime as a black man, Wayne Joseph discovered he probably isn't black at all.

Test Suggests 'Black' Man Is Really Not

If the DNA is true, then why does the article say this? because DNA mapping is not as accurate and precise as they are making it out to be due to it being a very profitable industry

So if the DNA suggest that he's 57% Indo-European, then can he now claim to be white? of course not because he fails the eye test, which you seem to want to minimize in cases dealing with Black categorization. But would you do the same for white categorization?
 

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Again, I'm missing the point cause those 3 people are white. You post these pictures to say what?

I didn't know I was posting pictures of white people, based on our historical understandings of how we categorize folks racially.

Gus Hawkins is one of the highly-respected, founding members of the Congressional Black Caucus. During his lifetime, there wasn't
a choice for anyone who possessed any African heritage, no matter how minimal. There wasn't the contemporary "eye test for race" that you're
utilizing.

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So if the DNA suggest that he's 57% Indo-European, then can he now claim to be white? of course not because he fails the eye test, which you seem to want to minimize in cases dealing with Black categorization. But would you do the same for white categorization?

Trying to understand your premise of the "eye test"?

Are we transitioning from the "one drop rule" to "the eye test" for racial categorization?

Does Indian-American Mindy Kaling's brother pass the black people "eye test" when he shaves his head?

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And if hair texture is part of the racial "eye test," where do we put the traditionally black-identified Johnny Mathis, who looks just like my mother's Pakistani cardiologist?

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As for whites and the "eye test," should this young women reject the fact that her DNA test came back 97% European and eschew her choice of white categorization?

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I didn't know I was posting pictures of white people, based on our historical understandings of how we categorize folks racially.

Gus Hawkins is one of the highly-respected, founding members of the Congressional Black Caucus. During his lifetime, there wasn't
a choice for anyone who possessed any African heritage, no matter how minimal. There wasn't the contemporary "eye test for race" that you're
utilizing.
Just cause something is historically done, doesn't mean it's correct. That is a white man. The only reason you're referencing his "Blackness" is due to written history. Remove the text, you would clearly identify him as white because there's nothing ambiguous about him

White folks co-found NAACP too, so a white man's involvement in the CBC means nothing to me

Trying to understand your premise of the "eye test"?

Are we transitioning from the "one drop rule" to "the eye test" for racial categorization?

Does Indian-American Mindy Kaling's brother pass the black people "eye test" when he shaves his head?

And if hair texture is part of the racial "eye test," where do we put the traditionally black-identified Johnny Mathis, who looks just like my mother's Pakistani cardiologist?

As for whites and the "eye test," should this young women reject the fact that her DNA test came back 97% European and eschew her choice of white categorization?
You went from posting Manny Mota pics to ambiguous and white folks, so to question the traits and identity of "Blackness"

For any of these ambiguous folks to "look like" another race, suggest that you have an understanding of the traits and identity of the other race for comparison purposes. So you're already using the "eye test"

"Whiteness" or "Asianess" have already been claimed and their traits, identities and qualities that are natural to the majority of them, are promoted. In other words, the minority doesn't and shouldn't represent the majority

For obvious reasons, however, "Blackness" have been under attack by both Black folks and non-Blacks for self-serving reasons

Any community that doesn't have control and understanding of their people's representation, will always be victims of manipulation and conditioning

Again stop mentioning DNA results because they are not as accurate as they are being portrayed to be the further in history you go
 

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Genetics are a funny thing.

Saying that somebody's not Black just because they don't "look" Black would be like saying my father's not my father just because I don't "look" like him.

If I look exactly like my moms does that mean my dad's not my dad anymore?

C'mon

But anyway, none of this bullshyt is relevant to this thread anyway.

Mike Tirico LOOOKS black and his father is Black. He's Black.
 

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I can't believe this dude doesn't think he is half black. "I'm Italian" OK :mjlol:

The scenario screams of his mom getting some black dikk on the side. The Dad was one of those simps that were like " I still love you and that baby is mine no matter what". He woke up one day and was like wtf am I doing? Then bounced.
 
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Genetics are a funny thing.

Saying that somebody's not Black just because they don't "look" Black would be like saying my father's not my father just because I don't "look" like him.
If I look exactly like my moms does that mean my dad's not my dad anymore?
C'mon
But anyway, none of this bullshyt is relevant to this thread anyway.
Mike Tirico LOOOKS black and his father is Black. He's Black.


EDIT: I misinterpreted what you wrote

Are you against or for the "eye test" cause what you wrote in the beginning doesn't support your conclusion at the end with the Tirico "looks like" statement
 
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Tirico grew up in Queens, New York, and graduated from Bayside High School and Syracuse University.[33][34] Tirico and his wife Debbie have two children. The Tiricos have lived in Ann Arbor, Michigan, since 1999.[34]

Despite his dark skin and non-white features, Tirico claims he is not African American. He has stated that he’s seen pictures of his father and immediate family, all of whom are White. “The only contact I had growing up was with my mom’s side of the family. And they are all as white as the refrigerator I’m standing in front of right now.” In regard to a genealogical test to see if he has a black ancestor, he said "Yeah. I’d like to find out the truth at some point, so I can answer questions for my kids", but made it clear he does not feel any urgency. [35][36]
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EDIT: I misinterpreted what you wrote

Are you against or for the "eye test" cause what you wrote in the beginning doesn't support your conclusion at the end with the Tirico "looks like" statement

I'm for nikkaz using their damned brains and seeing that Frederick Douglass & Bob Marley are Black & so is this motherfukker.

I mean, nikkaz bringing up all kinds of outliners that aint got nothing to do with this case.
 
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