Mike Tyson "20 Years Ago 90% Rappers Were Legit Tough Guys"

[Jone2three45]

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[Lewis Black]

mike tyson still believes the heroes of his days were actually tough

mike was actually out there lol I think he know.

 

[Fredrick Thuglas]

"Everybody you fight is not your enemy...and Everyone that helps you is not your friend"

 

[Long Live The Kane]

Yeah no doubt because that nikka Phife was known to shoot nikkas in broad day.

Not even accounting for the rappers that didn't even bother putting up the pretense of a being a tough guy...we got dudes like Dr. Dre and Bizzy Bone parading around as stone cold killers back then...

Street dudes from that era always said "rappers were corny, soft and trying to be like us but we didn't respect them"...that 90% legit tough guy stuff is comedy

 

[charmander]

Not even accounting for the rappers that didn't even bother putting up the pretense of a being a tough guy...we got dudes like Dr. Dre and Bizzy Bone parading around as stone cold killers back then

let's not sully the good name of the Midwest Cowboy

 

[Majestyx]

post from another site

Remembering the Wu-Tang era
I remember the 'Wu-Tang era' for completely different reasons than most, though. Before 36 Chambers came out and anyone knew who the hell Wu-Tang was, they were creating absolute havoc in my hometown.

I was born, raised, and went through high school in a small Ohio town named Steubenville. When I say small, I'm talking about under 20,000 people. It is about 25 minutes from downtown Pittsburgh, under two hours from Cleveland, and under three hours from Columbus. So, while it is a relatively little city, it is sort of in the middle of a lot of 'big' cities (relatively speaking).

In the late-80s and early-90s, our city (like just about every other urban area in the country) was introduced to crack and serious gang crime. The leaders of Steubenville's drug cartel were a group of guys that referred to themselves as the Godz. Violence was out-of-control for a city our size. There were literally shootings every night.

Packs of guys from New York were also showing up every night and waring with the local 'home grown' gangsters (this was a tough town before they showed up).

I had friends that my older brother went all through school with getting shot and killed on a regular basis. One fight, in particular, that was widely talked about at the time was when Ghostface, ODB, and a lesser known affiliate of the Godz jumped a guy that was on lunch break during school hours because he was a black guy with a white girlfriend.

Little did they know, the guy they were jumping was an All-State football player and took third in Ohio as a heavyweight wrestler. He proceeded to beat the hell out of all three of them. The event was witnessed by about half of my high school and is still talked about regularly today.

When 36 Chambers was released, Steubenville pretty much went into a state of shock. These guys that had been reeking havoc on our city were suddenly the biggest things in the f#cking music industry... Who knew?

RZA grew up in Steubenville, so it is no coincidence that they picked this city to attempt to take over, but it still is pretty amazing looking back. The last real incident with the Godz (ie Wu-Tang) was when one of their producers -- Wise God Allah -- was shot dead in downtown Steubenville in the mid-90s, riddled with bullets. He was shot many times by multiple people, one of which I knew well (his name is Keith West and he just got out of jail a couple of years ago).

There were retaliations and another guy that I knew well was shot dead outside of his house (Spanky Ware). A few months later, several members of the Wu-Tang Clan were pulled over in Steubenville (RZA, Ghost, and several others) with a car full of guns. They got a slap on the wrist and that is really the last that we heard of them, crime-wise.

There were several local Steubenville kids that hopped on board with Wu, though. The most notable were Killarmy, which was a Wu offshoot made up almost entirely of Steubenville rappers.

Killarmy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

What a crazy time to be around for... Just type in Wu-Tang Clan and Steubenville in google and you will get hundreds of results. I was always a fan of Wu and, in the 90s when they were playing Pittsburgh, one of the Wu's promoter whom my brother had known since high school dropped off 20 tickets for me and my buddies... He had Method Man in the car with him.

Pretty cool.

If you listen back to old Wu albums, though, pay attention to all the shoutouts for Ohio and references to Tappan Lake, a pretty big camping spot just outside the city limits where Wu-Tang would go to pen many of their lyrics.

While other 'gangsta rappers' may have been faking it and mere observers to the drug game, take it from me... the Godz were the real thing.

being from cleveland, tis all factual. cap got a BM in the area. them nikkas use to be in cleveland in a black MPV.

but u got rap nikkas like bootcamp, and MOP, master P. all legitmate hustlin ass thug type nikkas

 

[blackslash]

So Jay-Z, Ye, Wayne and Drake is?

Jay is from "20 years ago" but he is a hell of alot more tough and put in more work in the streets than that punk ass fakket acting ballerina ass pseudo gangsta ass fakket Pac who has stans using double standards to defend his fakkitry and his



Thats why that fakket bytch nikka died broke

Only soo long fake thugs can pretend

 

[OG Talk]

I'd love to, talking hip hop with Mike would be ill...what's he gonna do, Mitch Green me for disagreeing with cut and dry glory days nostalgia ? I'd take my chances

I think the difference is Mike is vouching for dudes he knew personally.. You're vouching for guys you watch on VEVO...


And ironically Mike has likely kicked it with the majority of these new school rappers (he had Tyga and YM do his daughters birthday party)..So I'm sure any debate you would have with him wouldn't be equally yoked..



Dude is a shark.. He knows how to look in a n1ggas eyes and spot the bytch in him...

 

[Long Live The Kane]

I think the difference is Mike is vouching for dudes he knew personally..

=/= 90% of all rappers

And even for those he vouches for, I'd have to question his credibility or honesty...I'm sure he'll say pac was part of that legit tough guy 90%, all while getting shot at and bullied by real actual legitimate tough guys and doing nothing but rapping about it...and running to the west coast to raped in hilarious fashion by Suge 'nem

 

[NYChase718]

Why do people mention "dr dre" and people like that. we kno thats not who tyson is referring to. nobody ever thought dr dre was tuff

 

[CHITLING flavored CEREAL]

post from another site

Remembering the Wu-Tang era
I remember the 'Wu-Tang era' for completely different reasons than most, though. Before 36 Chambers came out and anyone knew who the hell Wu-Tang was, they were creating absolute havoc in my hometown.

I was born, raised, and went through high school in a small Ohio town named Steubenville. When I say small, I'm talking about under 20,000 people. It is about 25 minutes from downtown Pittsburgh, under two hours from Cleveland, and under three hours from Columbus. So, while it is a relatively little city, it is sort of in the middle of a lot of 'big' cities (relatively speaking).

In the late-80s and early-90s, our city (like just about every other urban area in the country) was introduced to crack and serious gang crime. The leaders of Steubenville's drug cartel were a group of guys that referred to themselves as the Godz. Violence was out-of-control for a city our size. There were literally shootings every night.

Packs of guys from New York were also showing up every night and waring with the local 'home grown' gangsters (this was a tough town before they showed up).

I had friends that my older brother went all through school with getting shot and killed on a regular basis. One fight, in particular, that was widely talked about at the time was when Ghostface, ODB, and a lesser known affiliate of the Godz jumped a guy that was on lunch break during school hours because he was a black guy with a white girlfriend.

Little did they know, the guy they were jumping was an All-State football player and took third in Ohio as a heavyweight wrestler. He proceeded to beat the hell out of all three of them. The event was witnessed by about half of my high school and is still talked about regularly today.

When 36 Chambers was released, Steubenville pretty much went into a state of shock. These guys that had been reeking havoc on our city were suddenly the biggest things in the f#cking music industry... Who knew?

RZA grew up in Steubenville, so it is no coincidence that they picked this city to attempt to take over, but it still is pretty amazing looking back. The last real incident with the Godz (ie Wu-Tang) was when one of their producers -- Wise God Allah -- was shot dead in downtown Steubenville in the mid-90s, riddled with bullets. He was shot many times by multiple people, one of which I knew well (his name is Keith West and he just got out of jail a couple of years ago).

There were retaliations and another guy that I knew well was shot dead outside of his house (Spanky Ware). A few months later, several members of the Wu-Tang Clan were pulled over in Steubenville (RZA, Ghost, and several others) with a car full of guns. They got a slap on the wrist and that is really the last that we heard of them, crime-wise.

There were several local Steubenville kids that hopped on board with Wu, though. The most notable were Killarmy, which was a Wu offshoot made up almost entirely of Steubenville rappers.

Killarmy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

What a crazy time to be around for... Just type in Wu-Tang Clan and Steubenville in google and you will get hundreds of results. I was always a fan of Wu and, in the 90s when they were playing Pittsburgh, one of the Wu's promoter whom my brother had known since high school dropped off 20 tickets for me and my buddies... He had Method Man in the car with him.

Pretty cool.

If you listen back to old Wu albums, though, pay attention to all the shoutouts for Ohio and references to Tappan Lake, a pretty big camping spot just outside the city limits where Wu-Tang would go to pen many of their lyrics.

While other 'gangsta rappers' may have been faking it and mere observers to the drug game, take it from me... the Godz were the real thing.

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[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I doubt that.

We didn't have constant twitter/facebook/blog posts to keep up with them, nor did we have instant cameras/pictures recording them.

Their private lives were very much so, private.

Give me the tech we have now, 20 years ago and I'm sure 80% of all artists would be exposed as much bigger lames.

 

[CrossBones]

mike tyson was telling you that rappers werent cake like most are now. they werent running behind police security after talking too much, they werent heartbroken singing ass rappers, they werent paying gangs a fee so that they could rep them, you would not be taken seriously if you wore a dress, and that they came from an era when being in the streets meant you were in the middle of a coke war.

 

[Niqqa You Gay]

mike tyson still believes the heroes of his days were actually tough

Why dont you stop trying to save face for yourr wack generation all the time? Music was better before, the people you like are soft, so just deal with it and do what your told when daddy speaks

 

[OG Talk]

=/= 90% of all rappers

And even for those he vouches for, I'd have to question his credibility or honesty...I'm sure he'll say pac was part of that legit tough guy 90%, all while getting shot at and bullied by real actual legitimate tough guys and doing nothing but rapping about it...and running to the west coast to raped in hilarious fashion by Suge 'nem

That's a straw man though...

And you're questioning Mike Tyson's credibility and honesty..

Cool...