Mike Tyson "20 Years Ago 90% Rappers Were Legit Tough Guys"

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=/= 90% of all rappers

And even for those he vouches for, I'd have to question his credibility or honesty...I'm sure he'll say pac was part of that legit tough guy 90%, all while getting shot at and bullied by real actual legitimate tough guys and doing nothing but rapping about it...and running to the west coast to raped in hilarious fashion by Suge 'nem

Jay is from "20 years ago" but he is a hell of alot more tough and put in more work in the streets than that punk ass fakket acting ballerina ass pseudo gangsta ass fakket Pac who has stans using double standards to defend his fakkitry and his :duck:

:youngsabo:

Thats why that fakket bytch nikka died broke:youngsabo:

Only soo long fake thugs can pretend :ahh:

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Mike is right.

I remember Mob Style from Harlem back then. These cats were actually hustling and rapping at the same time. They'd have guns in the video, and show all their product and all that. It's wild to think about today, but back then, dudes were actual felons makin' records. Today, it's just entertainment.

But that might actually be a good thing. You can't be that reckless anymore. Especially with how crazy Hip Hip is on the world's radar. You'd be locked in a week!


:salute: wow a Mobb Style shout in the Coli. I heard them dudes chased Ice Cube off stage and out of the Apollo Theater one of the first times Cube came to NYC after going solo

have to post this

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Jay is from "20 years ago" but he is a hell of alot more tough and put in more work in the streets than that punk ass fakket acting ballerina ass pseudo gangsta ass fakket Pac who has stans using double standards to defend his fakkitry and his :duck:

:youngsabo:

Thats why that fakket bytch nikka died broke:youngsabo:

Only soo long fake thugs can pretend :ahh:

:umad:

:herewegoagain:
 

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Why dont you stop trying to save face for yourr wack generation all the time? Music was better before, the people you like are soft, so just deal with it and do what your told when daddy speaks

Ur post wasnt an argument just u cryin bout the truth I post:lolbron:

:umad: Im objective and realize these rappers u idolize from ur time would be exposed as frauds if they had all the tech we have now...not to mention this also allows for a less rigid game where a plethora of characters and personalities can make it in this game unlike where u had a ballerina fakket nikka acting like a thug cuz he thought that was the only way he can reach ppl......sit down u ol "it was better back in my day" ass bytch nikka

And continue idolizing ur frauds u call heroes and tough...:heh::pacspit:
 

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Why dont you stop trying to save face for yourr wack generation all the time? Music was better before, the people you like are soft, so just deal with it and do what your told when daddy speaks

Agreed, what funny is that Jay would probably agree with what Tyson is saying. If Pac was as fake as his haters make him out to be, Biggie would have knew about it molded that knowledge into a diss song to ether Pac.

Funny he says this, considering his buddy was a studio gangster :pachaha:

Looks like we have scorned NYC 90s Hip Hop head, Hit Em Up came out 15 years ago, get over it :pachaha:


IDK how anybody could say any diss song is better than Hit Em Up or Ether, the stans of the rappers these tracks were directed at are still mad YEARS after they came out :pachaha:
 

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:salute: wow a Mobb Style shout in the Coli. I heard them dudes chased Ice Cube off stage and out of the Apollo Theater one of the first times Cube came to NYC after going solo

have to post this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Au4uKdPu7ZE

No doubt! I'm from NY, Mob Style had rappers scared to go Uptown at one point. They used to chase mad artists outta Harlem, from what we used to hear.
 

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Remembering the Wu-Tang era
I remember the 'Wu-Tang era' for completely different reasons than most, though. Before 36 Chambers came out and anyone knew who the hell Wu-Tang was, they were creating absolute havoc in my hometown.

I was born, raised, and went through high school in a small Ohio town named Steubenville. When I say small, I'm talking about under 20,000 people. It is about 25 minutes from downtown Pittsburgh, under two hours from Cleveland, and under three hours from Columbus. So, while it is a relatively little city, it is sort of in the middle of a lot of 'big' cities (relatively speaking).

In the late-80s and early-90s, our city (like just about every other urban area in the country) was introduced to crack and serious gang crime. The leaders of Steubenville's drug cartel were a group of guys that referred to themselves as the Godz. Violence was out-of-control for a city our size. There were literally shootings every night.

Packs of guys from New York were also showing up every night and waring with the local 'home grown' gangsters (this was a tough town before they showed up).

I had friends that my older brother went all through school with getting shot and killed on a regular basis. One fight, in particular, that was widely talked about at the time was when Ghostface, ODB, and a lesser known affiliate of the Godz jumped a guy that was on lunch break during school hours because he was a black guy with a white girlfriend.

Little did they know, the guy they were jumping was an All-State football player and took third in Ohio as a heavyweight wrestler. He proceeded to beat the hell out of all three of them. The event was witnessed by about half of my high school and is still talked about regularly today.

When 36 Chambers was released, Steubenville pretty much went into a state of shock. These guys that had been reeking havoc on our city were suddenly the biggest things in the f#cking music industry... Who knew?

RZA grew up in Steubenville, so it is no coincidence that they picked this city to attempt to take over, but it still is pretty amazing looking back. The last real incident with the Godz (ie Wu-Tang) was when one of their producers -- Wise God Allah -- was shot dead in downtown Steubenville in the mid-90s, riddled with bullets. He was shot many times by multiple people, one of which I knew well (his name is Keith West and he just got out of jail a couple of years ago).

There were retaliations and another guy that I knew well was shot dead outside of his house (Spanky Ware). A few months later, several members of the Wu-Tang Clan were pulled over in Steubenville (RZA, Ghost, and several others) with a car full of guns. They got a slap on the wrist and that is really the last that we heard of them, crime-wise.

There were several local Steubenville kids that hopped on board with Wu, though. The most notable were Killarmy, which was a Wu offshoot made up almost entirely of Steubenville rappers.

Killarmy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

What a crazy time to be around for... Just type in Wu-Tang Clan and Steubenville in google and you will get hundreds of results. I was always a fan of Wu and, in the 90s when they were playing Pittsburgh, one of the Wu's promoter whom my brother had known since high school dropped off 20 tickets for me and my buddies... He had Method Man in the car with him.

Pretty cool.

If you listen back to old Wu albums, though, pay attention to all the shoutouts for Ohio and references to Tappan Lake, a pretty big camping spot just outside the city limits where Wu-Tang would go to pen many of their lyrics.

While other 'gangsta rappers' may have been faking it and mere observers to the drug game, take it from me... the Godz were the real thing.
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son i thought Killa Army was from NJ or NY this whole time
 

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Agreed, what funny is that Jay would probably agree with what Tyson is saying. If Pac was as fake as his haters make him out to be, Biggie would have knew about it molded that knowledge into a diss song to ether Pac.



Looks like we have scorned NYC 90s Hip Hop head, Hit Em Up came out 15 years ago, get over it :pachaha:


IDK how anybody could say any diss song is better than Hit Em Up or Ether, the stans of the rappers these tracks were directed at are still mad YEARS after they came out :pachaha:

Well if one appreciates tecnique and not just mindless aggression and jibberish liek Hit em up then one can perhaps not be too much of a fan of Hit em up...

Hit em up...is a diss song any amateur rapper can cook up...songs like Ether or Takeover on the other hand...cant

But ur a simple minded nikka so I dnt expect u to recognize such aspects of rap:skip::skip:
 

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Ur post wasnt an argument just u cryin bout the truth I post:lolbron:

:umad: Im objective and realize these rappers u idolize from ur time would be exposed as frauds if they had all the tech we have now...not to mention this also allows for a less rigid game where a plethora of characters and personalities can make it in this game unlike where u had a ballerina fakket nikka acting like a thug cuz he thought that was the only way he can reach ppl......sit down u ol "it was better back in my day" ass bytch nikka

And continue idolizing ur frauds u call heroes and tough...:heh::pacspit:

Everything you love is pattycake. Your life experience is marshmallow. :umad:
 

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All joking aside...

Mike came up in the crack era in a community that was almost ground zero for its explosion..You go to every major city and the violent crime and murder rates were almost triple 20 plus years ago..All the talk about how crazy these lil Chicago n1ggas are now is silly when looked in the context of the terror their dads were raining down on the community..

Nothing to brag or be proud about, but it's statistically verifiable that n1ggas were more about that life in the 80's and early 90's than they are now..So it only make sense that it would be reflected in hip hop..

This is a silly debate to have but I knew it would work...

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Yeah no doubt because that nikka Phife was known to shoot nikkas in broad day. :comeon:

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:flabbynsick: mike tyson still believes the heroes of his days were actually tough :russ:

You completely missed the point. He was trying to point out how much society has changed (music/sports) in 20 yrs.

Plus he said 90% not 100% and you also have to consider the rappers that weren't so well known are being considered too, not just the main stream acts.

Im sure if we got the 10 top rappers each year from 93' to about 96' he would have made a legit argument.
 
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