Mike Tyson "20 Years Ago 90% Rappers Were Legit Tough Guys"

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Freddie Foxx walked up on Treach bus, and slapped him in the mouth..

Keith Murray had dude from Mobb Deep, hiding under cars and shyt..

Master P having Pimp C up in a hotel room tied up, and giving him the beats..

man.. its so many of these so-called tough guys who got checked back in the day..


Busta was talking how nikkas was gangsta about it on the quiet tip and nobody even hearing about it. Queen Latifah and Flavor Unit pulling the toast on people and De La Soul breaking nikkas on tables in clubs, Q-Tip even snuffing dudes :russ:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlTF9mfKjPY"]METHOD MAN + REDMAN + BUSTA RHYMES = JUAN EPSTEIN Part 8 - YouTube[/ame]
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Why are you so focused on Pac though? Mike was talking about a whole generation of rappers but you been stuck on one nikka. And as soft as you say Pac was I would bet money you WOULD NOT talking all this greasiness you talking to the man's face in person.
Your generation is softer than tres leches, just deal with it young slime. And this ain't exclusive to rap nikkas either

Well...I cant...he's busy facing the consequence of his lil act:ld:
 

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Didn't half of you 90's cats grow up not even being able to play dodgeball in gym class?? I thought it was common knowledge this generation was soft.
 

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Remembering the Wu-Tang era
I remember the 'Wu-Tang era' for completely different reasons than most, though. Before 36 Chambers came out and anyone knew who the hell Wu-Tang was, they were creating absolute havoc in my hometown.

I was born, raised, and went through high school in a small Ohio town named Steubenville. When I say small, I'm talking about under 20,000 people. It is about 25 minutes from downtown Pittsburgh, under two hours from Cleveland, and under three hours from Columbus. So, while it is a relatively little city, it is sort of in the middle of a lot of 'big' cities (relatively speaking).

In the late-80s and early-90s, our city (like just about every other urban area in the country) was introduced to crack and serious gang crime. The leaders of Steubenville's drug cartel were a group of guys that referred to themselves as the Godz. Violence was out-of-control for a city our size. There were literally shootings every night.

Packs of guys from New York were also showing up every night and waring with the local 'home grown' gangsters (this was a tough town before they showed up).

I had friends that my older brother went all through school with getting shot and killed on a regular basis. One fight, in particular, that was widely talked about at the time was when Ghostface, ODB, and a lesser known affiliate of the Godz jumped a guy that was on lunch break during school hours because he was a black guy with a white girlfriend.

Little did they know, the guy they were jumping was an All-State football player and took third in Ohio as a heavyweight wrestler. He proceeded to beat the hell out of all three of them. The event was witnessed by about half of my high school and is still talked about regularly today.

When 36 Chambers was released, Steubenville pretty much went into a state of shock. These guys that had been reeking havoc on our city were suddenly the biggest things in the f#cking music industry... Who knew?

RZA grew up in Steubenville, so it is no coincidence that they picked this city to attempt to take over, but it still is pretty amazing looking back. The last real incident with the Godz (ie Wu-Tang) was when one of their producers -- Wise God Allah -- was shot dead in downtown Steubenville in the mid-90s, riddled with bullets. He was shot many times by multiple people, one of which I knew well (his name is Keith West and he just got out of jail a couple of years ago).

There were retaliations and another guy that I knew well was shot dead outside of his house (Spanky Ware). A few months later, several members of the Wu-Tang Clan were pulled over in Steubenville (RZA, Ghost, and several others) with a car full of guns. They got a slap on the wrist and that is really the last that we heard of them, crime-wise.

There were several local Steubenville kids that hopped on board with Wu, though. The most notable were Killarmy, which was a Wu offshoot made up almost entirely of Steubenville rappers.

Killarmy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

What a crazy time to be around for... Just type in Wu-Tang Clan and Steubenville in google and you will get hundreds of results. I was always a fan of Wu and, in the 90s when they were playing Pittsburgh, one of the Wu's promoter whom my brother had known since high school dropped off 20 tickets for me and my buddies... He had Method Man in the car with him.

Pretty cool.

If you listen back to old Wu albums, though, pay attention to all the shoutouts for Ohio and references to Tappan Lake, a pretty big camping spot just outside the city limits where Wu-Tang would go to pen many of their lyrics.

While other 'gangsta rappers' may have been faking it and mere observers to the drug game, take it from me... the Godz were the real thing.



Sounds like the intro to Liquid Swords

[ame=http://youtu.be/jP3D6p2s2H4]The GZA - 01 Liquid Swords - Liquid Swords - YouTube[/ame]

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So Jay Z wasnt an ex hustler who had to survive among the sharks and was known to be good with a knife :ohhh:

The way some of ya'll try to downplay Jay is lame

I never said he was an "hustler",
In fact,
He is a great hustler.
In 88,
He was getting chased to his building.
That's "tough"?
 
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smh...all true...didn't know about the Treach shyt tho..always heard he was a real nikka...
he is.. but, you know how it go.. its always someone there waiting to test how real you actually are..

it was another story about Treach, i just can't put the other name to it.. but, treach caught them beats a few times.. anybody can..

Busta was talking how nikkas was gangsta about it on the quiet tip and nobody even hearing about it. Queen Latifah and Flavor Unit pulling the toast on people and De La Soul breaking nikkas on tables in clubs, Q-Tip even snuffing dudes :russ:

METHOD MAN + REDMAN + BUSTA RHYMES = JUAN EPSTEIN Part 8 - YouTube
1:40
i know for a fact, Flavor Unit wasn't to be fukked with..


dont know much about them other cats.. what i do know about Q-Tip, is he got his ass whooped by either K-Ci, or Jo-Jo to the point thats why he was rockin that mask in the "Hot Sex On The Platter" video..

@spliz whats the story about Mike Knox basically fukkin air-pressing Beanie in the club in Philly..? :skip:
 
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Busta was talking how nikkas was gangsta about it on the quiet tip and nobody even hearing about it. Queen Latifah and Flavor Unit pulling the toast on people and De La Soul breaking nikkas on tables in clubs, Q-Tip even snuffing dudes :russ:

METHOD MAN + REDMAN + BUSTA RHYMES = JUAN EPSTEIN Part 8 - YouTube
1:40




I remember geting in to a argument with Dallas Penn when we talked about violence in rap and I was like De La soul use to beat people up all the time for think they were p.ussy ...

there just wasn't world star and social media to let you know what was happening ..
 

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I never said he was an "hustler",
In fact,
He is a great hustler.
In 88,
He was getting chased to his building.
That's "tough"
?

Everybody takes l's my g, even the realest pac took l's. He used to get beaten up when he first went marin city, but he never backed down n they started fukking with him on some homie shyt.
 

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he is.. but, you know how it go.. its always someone there waiting to test how real you actually are..

it was another story about Treach, i just can't put the other name to it.. but, treach caught them beats a few times.. anybody can..


i know for a fact, Flavor Unit wasn't to be fukked with..


dont know much about them other cats.. what i do know about Q-Tip, is he got his ass whooped by either K-Ci, or Jo-Jo to the point thats why he was rockin that mask in the "Hot Sex On The Platter" video..

@spliz whats the story about Mike Knox basically fukkin air-pressing Beanie in the club in Philly..? :skip:
Wrex-n-Effex put the beats to Tip:pachaha:
 
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he is.. but, you know how it go.. its always someone there waiting to test how real you actually are..

it was another story about Treach, i just can't put the other name to it.. but, treach caught them beats a few times.. anybody can..


i know for a fact, Flavor Unit wasn't to be fukked with..


dont know much about them other cats.. what i do know about Q-Tip, is he got his ass whooped by either K-Ci, or Jo-Jo to the point thats why he was rockin that mask in the "Hot Sex On The Platter" video..

@spliz whats the story about Mike Knox basically fukkin air-pressing Beanie in the club in Philly..? :skip:

well..Beans is a real nikka...he just got caught slippin...I don't even fault nikkas for that...if u a real nikka in the streets than L's are a part of the territory...but thing I found funny bout that situation was that when Mike Knox was poppin mad shyt on camera about him knockin Beans out n all that...he called Beans up on camera on speaker and Beans was like "Really Knox?..U knocked my out?" and it even got to the point where Knox even took it off speaker phone and just ended up havin a convo wit the nikka...while gigglin for the camera...that shyt let me know that the situation was exaggerated in some kind of way...cause Knox kinda fell back wit all that talk when he actually spoke to Beans...
 
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he is.. but, you know how it go.. its always someone there waiting to test how real you actually are..

it was another story about Treach, i just can't put the other name to it.. but, treach caught them beats a few times.. anybody can..


i know for a fact, Flavor Unit wasn't to be fukked with..


dont know much about them other cats.. what i do know about Q-Tip, is he got his ass whooped by either K-Ci, or Jo-Jo to the point thats why he was rockin that mask in the "Hot Sex On The Platter" video.. [/B]

@spliz whats the story about Mike Knox basically fukkin air-pressing Beanie in the club in Philly..? :skip:

dont know much about them other cats.. what i do know about Q-Tip, is he got his ass whooped by either K-Ci, or Jo-Jo to the point thats why he was rockin that mask in the "Hot Sex On The Platter" video..



That was wrecks n effects because of Phife dissing New Jack swing ...
 
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