Miles Davis was as gangsta as they come.

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It's not quite like that. He talks mostly about artists he worked with that he liked. He doesn't go on too much about people whose music or styles he dislikes. I remember he was pretty negative about Ornette Coleman's earlier work, Don Cherry and pianist Cecil Taylor. He said it was just a whole lot of notes played really fast for their own sake for the purposes of impressing white people.
 

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Man...Miles is that DUDE. I've read a lot about him and I think more black men should read more about him. Regardless of his many flaws, he was a man of integrity and would never compromise his music. Always the trendsetter. Never sat on one style too long and was never afraid of musical exploration. He took a LOT of heat when he starting playing more funk/African rhythyms.

To me the best thing about him was he never cow-towed or buck danced for white folks, he was always undeniably black. In fact he said he he wanted to spend the last 10 minutes of his life with his hands around the neck of a white man. :damn:
 

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More from Miles Davis’ autobiography:

''I had just finished doing an Armed Forces Day broadcast, you know, Voice of America and all that bullshyt. I had just walked this pretty white girl named Judy out to get a cab. She got in the cab, and I’m standing there in front of Birdland wringing wet because it’s a hot, steaming, muggy night in August. This white policeman comes up to me and tells me to move on. At the time I was doing a lot of boxing, so I thought to myself, I ought to hit this motherfukker because I knew what he was doing. But instead I said, “Move on, for what? I’m working downstairs. That’s my name up there, Miles Davis,” and I pointed to my name on the marquee all up in lights.

He said, “I don’t care where you work, I said move on! If you don’t move on I’m going to arrest you.”

I just looked at his face real straight and hard, and I didn’t move. Then he said, “You’re under arrest!” He reached for his handcuffs, but he was stepping back. Now, boxers had told me that if a guy’s going to hit you, if you walk toward him you can see what’s happening. I saw by the way he was handling himself that the policeman was an ex-fighter. So I kind of leaned in closer because I wasn’t going to give him no distance so he could hit me on the head He stumbled, and all his stuff fell on the sidewalk, and I thought to myself, Oh, shyt, they’re going to think that I fukked with him or something. I’m waiting for him to put the handcuffs, on, because all his stuff is on the ground and shyt. Then I move closer so he won’t be able to fukk me up. A crowd had gathered all of a sudden from out of nowhere, and this white detective runs in and BAM! hits me on the head. I never saw him coming. Blood was running down the khaki suit I had on. Then I remember Dorothy Kilgallen coming outside with this horrible look on her face—I had known Dorothy for years and I used to date her good friend Jean Bock—and saying, “Miles, what happened?” I couldn’t say nothing. Illinois Jacquet was there, too.

It was almost a race riot, so the police got scared and hurried up and got my ass out of there and took me to the 54th Precinct, where they took pictures of me bleeding and shyt. So, I’m sitting there, madder than a motherfukker, right? And they’re saying to me in the station, “So you’re the wiseguy, huh?” Then they’d bump up against me, you know, try to get me mad so they could probably knock me upside my head again. I’m just sitting there, taking it all in, watching every move they make.''
— Miles Davis
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This is an excerpt from Miles Davis' autobiography in which he talks about Charlie 'Bird' Parker.

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More from Miles Davis’ autobiography:

''I had just finished doing an Armed Forces Day broadcast, you know, Voice of America and all that bullshyt. I had just walked this pretty white girl named Judy out to get a cab. She got in the cab, and I’m standing there in front of Birdland wringing wet because it’s a hot, steaming, muggy night in August. This white policeman comes up to me and tells me to move on. At the time I was doing a lot of boxing, so I thought to myself, I ought to hit this motherfukker because I knew what he was doing. But instead I said, “Move on, for what? I’m working downstairs. That’s my name up there, Miles Davis,” and I pointed to my name on the marquee all up in lights.

He said, “I don’t care where you work, I said move on! If you don’t move on I’m going to arrest you.”

I just looked at his face real straight and hard, and I didn’t move. Then he said, “You’re under arrest!” He reached for his handcuffs, but he was stepping back. Now, boxers had told me that if a guy’s going to hit you, if you walk toward him you can see what’s happening. I saw by the way he was handling himself that the policeman was an ex-fighter. So I kind of leaned in closer because I wasn’t going to give him no distance so he could hit me on the head He stumbled, and all his stuff fell on the sidewalk, and I thought to myself, Oh, shyt, they’re going to think that I fukked with him or something. I’m waiting for him to put the handcuffs, on, because all his stuff is on the ground and shyt. Then I move closer so he won’t be able to fukk me up. A crowd had gathered all of a sudden from out of nowhere, and this white detective runs in and BAM! hits me on the head. I never saw him coming. Blood was running down the khaki suit I had on. Then I remember Dorothy Kilgallen coming outside with this horrible look on her face—I had known Dorothy for years and I used to date her good friend Jean Bock—and saying, “Miles, what happened?” I couldn’t say nothing. Illinois Jacquet was there, too.

It was almost a race riot, so the police got scared and hurried up and got my ass out of there and took me to the 54th Precinct, where they took pictures of me bleeding and shyt. So, I’m sitting there, madder than a motherfukker, right? And they’re saying to me in the station, “So you’re the wiseguy, huh?” Then they’d bump up against me, you know, try to get me mad so they could probably knock me upside my head again. I’m just sitting there, taking it all in, watching every move they make.''
— Miles Davis
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This is an excerpt from Miles Davis' autobiography in which he talks about Charlie 'Bird' Parker.

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@Nemesis Man I watched a documentary about A Great Day In Harlem and dudes said when Monk walked in to be apart of the photo, it was like seing Jesus in the flesh. haha They looked at him like a gawd.
 
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More from Miles Davis’ autobiography:

''I had just finished doing an Armed Forces Day broadcast, you know, Voice of America and all that bullshyt. I had just walked this pretty white girl named Judy out to get a cab. She got in the cab, and I’m standing there in front of Birdland wringing wet because it’s a hot, steaming, muggy night in August. This white policeman comes up to me and tells me to move on. At the time I was doing a lot of boxing, so I thought to myself, I ought to hit this motherfukker because I knew what he was doing. But instead I said, “Move on, for what? I’m working downstairs. That’s my name up there, Miles Davis,” and I pointed to my name on the marquee all up in lights.

He said, “I don’t care where you work, I said move on! If you don’t move on I’m going to arrest you.”

I just looked at his face real straight and hard, and I didn’t move. Then he said, “You’re under arrest!” He reached for his handcuffs, but he was stepping back. Now, boxers had told me that if a guy’s going to hit you, if you walk toward him you can see what’s happening. I saw by the way he was handling himself that the policeman was an ex-fighter. So I kind of leaned in closer because I wasn’t going to give him no distance so he could hit me on the head He stumbled, and all his stuff fell on the sidewalk, and I thought to myself, Oh, shyt, they’re going to think that I fukked with him or something. I’m waiting for him to put the handcuffs, on, because all his stuff is on the ground and shyt. Then I move closer so he won’t be able to fukk me up. A crowd had gathered all of a sudden from out of nowhere, and this white detective runs in and BAM! hits me on the head. I never saw him coming. Blood was running down the khaki suit I had on. Then I remember Dorothy Kilgallen coming outside with this horrible look on her face—I had known Dorothy for years and I used to date her good friend Jean Bock—and saying, “Miles, what happened?” I couldn’t say nothing. Illinois Jacquet was there, too.

It was almost a race riot, so the police got scared and hurried up and got my ass out of there and took me to the 54th Precinct, where they took pictures of me bleeding and shyt. So, I’m sitting there, madder than a motherfukker, right? And they’re saying to me in the station, “So you’re the wiseguy, huh?” Then they’d bump up against me, you know, try to get me mad so they could probably knock me upside my head again. I’m just sitting there, taking it all in, watching every move they make.''
— Miles Davis
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More from Miles Davis’ autobiography:

''I had just finished doing an Armed Forces Day broadcast, you know, Voice of America and all that bullshyt. I had just walked this pretty white girl named Judy out to get a cab. She got in the cab, and I’m standing there in front of Birdland wringing wet because it’s a hot, steaming, muggy night in August. This white policeman comes up to me and tells me to move on. At the time I was doing a lot of boxing, so I thought to myself, I ought to hit this motherfukker because I knew what he was doing. But instead I said, “Move on, for what? I’m working downstairs. That’s my name up there, Miles Davis,” and I pointed to my name on the marquee all up in lights.

He said, “I don’t care where you work, I said move on! If you don’t move on I’m going to arrest you.”

I just looked at his face real straight and hard, and I didn’t move. Then he said, “You’re under arrest!” He reached for his handcuffs, but he was stepping back. Now, boxers had told me that if a guy’s going to hit you, if you walk toward him you can see what’s happening. I saw by the way he was handling himself that the policeman was an ex-fighter. So I kind of leaned in closer because I wasn’t going to give him no distance so he could hit me on the head He stumbled, and all his stuff fell on the sidewalk, and I thought to myself, Oh, shyt, they’re going to think that I fukked with him or something. I’m waiting for him to put the handcuffs, on, because all his stuff is on the ground and shyt. Then I move closer so he won’t be able to fukk me up. A crowd had gathered all of a sudden from out of nowhere, and this white detective runs in and BAM! hits me on the head. I never saw him coming. Blood was running down the khaki suit I had on. Then I remember Dorothy Kilgallen coming outside with this horrible look on her face—I had known Dorothy for years and I used to date her good friend Jean Bock—and saying, “Miles, what happened?” I couldn’t say nothing. Illinois Jacquet was there, too.

It was almost a race riot, so the police got scared and hurried up and got my ass out of there and took me to the 54th Precinct, where they took pictures of me bleeding and shyt. So, I’m sitting there, madder than a motherfukker, right? And they’re saying to me in the station, “So you’re the wiseguy, huh?” Then they’d bump up against me, you know, try to get me mad so they could probably knock me upside my head again. I’m just sitting there, taking it all in, watching every move they make.''
— Miles Davis
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This is an excerpt from Miles Davis' autobiography in which he talks about Charlie 'Bird' Parker.

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Excerpt from The Autobiography of Miles Davis with Quincy Troupe: Miles on Dexter

''Since 52nd Street was going down fast, the jazz scene was moving to 47th and Broadway. One place was the Royal Roost, owned by a guy named Ralph Watkins. It was originally a chicken joint. But in 1948 Monte Kay talked Ralph into letting Symphony Sid produce a concert on an off-night there. Monte Kay was a young white guy who was hanging around the jazz scene. Back then he used to pass himself off as a light-skinned black guy. But when he got some money, he went back to being white. He’s made millions producing black musi*cians. Anyway, Sid picked Tuesday night and did a concert with me and Bird, Tadd Dameron, Fats Navarro, and Dexter Gordon. They had a non-drinking section in the club where young people could come and sit and listen to the music for ninety cents. Birdland did that too, later on.

This was the time when I got to know Dexter Gordon. Dexter had come east in 1948 (or somewhere around that time), and he and I and Stan Levey started hanging out. I had first met him in Los Ange*les. Dexter was real hip and could play his ass off, so we used to go around and go to jams. Stan and I had lived together for a while in 1945, so we were good friends… We would go down to 52nd Street to hang out. Dexter used to be super hip and dapper, with those big-shouldered suits everybody was wearing in those days. I was wearing my three-piece Brooks Brothers suits that I thought were super hip, too. You know, that St. Louis style shyt. N***ers from St. Louis had the reputation for being sharp as a tack when it came to clothes. So couldn’t nobody tell me nothing.

But Dexter didn’t think my dress style was all that hip. So he used to always tell me, “Jim” (“Jim” was an expression a lot of musicians used back then), “you can’t hang with us looking and dressing like that. Why don’t you wear some other shyt, Jim? You gotta get some vines. You gotta go to F & M’s,” which was a clothing store on Broad*way in midtown.

“Why, Dexter, these some bad suits I’m wearing. I paid a lot of money for this shyt.”

“Miles, that ain’t it, ’cause the shyt ain’t hip. See, it ain’t got noth*ing to do with money; it’s got something to do with hipness, Jim, and that shyt you got on ain’t nowhere near hip. You gotta get some of them big-shouldered suits and Mr. B shirts if you want to be hip, Miles.”

So I’d say, all hurt and shyt, “But Dex, man, these are nice clothes.”

“I know you think they hip, Miles, but they ain’t. I can’t be seen with nobody wearing no square shyt like you be wearing. And you playing in Bird’s band? The hippest band in the world? Man, you oughta know better.”

I was hurt. I always respected Dexter because I thought he was super hip—one of the hippest and cleanest young cats on the whole music scene back then. Then one day he said, “Man, why don’t you grow a moustache? Or a beard?”

“How, Dexter? I ain’t even got no hair growing nowhere much except on my head and a little bit under by arms and around my d**k! My family got a lot of Indian blood, and n***ers and Indians don’t grow beards and be hairy on their faces. My chest is smooth as a tomato, Dexter.”

“Well, Jim, you gotta do something. You can’t be hanging with us looking like you looking, ’cause you’ll embarrass me. Why don’t you get you some hip vines since you can’t grow no hair?”

So I saved up forty-seven dollars and went down to F & M’s and bought me a gray, big-shouldered suit that looked like it was too big for me. That’s the suit I had on in all them pictures while I was in Bird’s band in 1948 and even in my own publicity shot when I had that process in my hair. After I got that suit from F & M’s, Dexter came up to me grinning that big grin of his and towering over me, patting me on my back, saying, “Yeah, Jim, now you looking like something, now you hip. You can hang with us.” He was something else.
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The Autobiography of Miles Davis with Quincy Troupe | pp. 110-111
 

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Excerpt from The Autobiography of Miles Davis with Quincy Troupe: Miles on Dexter

''Since 52nd Street was going down fast, the jazz scene was moving to 47th and Broadway. One place was the Royal Roost, owned by a guy named Ralph Watkins. It was originally a chicken joint. But in 1948 Monte Kay talked Ralph into letting Symphony Sid produce a concert on an off-night there. Monte Kay was a young white guy who was hanging around the jazz scene. Back then he used to pass himself off as a light-skinned black guy. But when he got some money, he went back to being white. He’s made millions producing black musi*cians. Anyway, Sid picked Tuesday night and did a concert with me and Bird, Tadd Dameron, Fats Navarro, and Dexter Gordon. They had a non-drinking section in the club where young people could come and sit and listen to the music for ninety cents. Birdland did that too, later on.
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Excerpt from The Autobiography of Miles Davis with Quincy Troupe: Miles on Dexter

''Since 52nd Street was going down fast, the jazz scene was moving to 47th and Broadway. One place was the Royal Roost, owned by a guy named Ralph Watkins. It was originally a chicken joint. But in 1948 Monte Kay talked Ralph into letting Symphony Sid produce a concert on an off-night there. Monte Kay was a young white guy who was hanging around the jazz scene. Back then he used to pass himself off as a light-skinned black guy. But when he got some money, he went back to being white. He’s made millions producing black musi*cians. Anyway, Sid picked Tuesday night and did a concert with me and Bird, Tadd Dameron, Fats Navarro, and Dexter Gordon. They had a non-drinking section in the club where young people could come and sit and listen to the music for ninety cents. Birdland did that too, later on.

This was the time when I got to know Dexter Gordon. Dexter had come east in 1948 (or somewhere around that time), and he and I and Stan Levey started hanging out. I had first met him in Los Ange*les. Dexter was real hip and could play his ass off, so we used to go around and go to jams. Stan and I had lived together for a while in 1945, so we were good friends… We would go down to 52nd Street to hang out. Dexter used to be super hip and dapper, with those big-shouldered suits everybody was wearing in those days. I was wearing my three-piece Brooks Brothers suits that I thought were super hip, too. You know, that St. Louis style shyt. N***ers from St. Louis had the reputation for being sharp as a tack when it came to clothes. So couldn’t nobody tell me nothing.

But Dexter didn’t think my dress style was all that hip. So he used to always tell me, “Jim” (“Jim” was an expression a lot of musicians used back then), “you can’t hang with us looking and dressing like that. Why don’t you wear some other shyt, Jim? You gotta get some vines. You gotta go to F & M’s,” which was a clothing store on Broad*way in midtown.

“Why, Dexter, these some bad suits I’m wearing. I paid a lot of money for this shyt.”

“Miles, that ain’t it, ’cause the shyt ain’t hip. See, it ain’t got noth*ing to do with money; it’s got something to do with hipness, Jim, and that shyt you got on ain’t nowhere near hip. You gotta get some of them big-shouldered suits and Mr. B shirts if you want to be hip, Miles.”

So I’d say, all hurt and shyt, “But Dex, man, these are nice clothes.”

“I know you think they hip, Miles, but they ain’t. I can’t be seen with nobody wearing no square shyt like you be wearing. And you playing in Bird’s band? The hippest band in the world? Man, you oughta know better.”

I was hurt. I always respected Dexter because I thought he was super hip—one of the hippest and cleanest young cats on the whole music scene back then. Then one day he said, “Man, why don’t you grow a moustache? Or a beard?”

“How, Dexter? I ain’t even got no hair growing nowhere much except on my head and a little bit under by arms and around my d**k! My family got a lot of Indian blood, and n***ers and Indians don’t grow beards and be hairy on their faces. My chest is smooth as a tomato, Dexter.”

“Well, Jim, you gotta do something. You can’t be hanging with us looking like you looking, ’cause you’ll embarrass me. Why don’t you get you some hip vines since you can’t grow no hair?”

So I saved up forty-seven dollars and went down to F & M’s and bought me a gray, big-shouldered suit that looked like it was too big for me. That’s the suit I had on in all them pictures while I was in Bird’s band in 1948 and even in my own publicity shot when I had that process in my hair. After I got that suit from F & M’s, Dexter came up to me grinning that big grin of his and towering over me, patting me on my back, saying, “Yeah, Jim, now you looking like something, now you hip. You can hang with us.” He was something else.
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The Autobiography of Miles Davis with Quincy Troupe | pp. 110-111

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