Mitch Is Preaching To The Choir/Can We Get The Wins A Little Higher...With Fox & Wemby We Gon Be Your Idol - 2025 San Antonio Spurs Season Thread
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So we all on the same page? Jones-Garcia gets a full contract? Not even a two-way?
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Two way is fine but aint no way he sees the floor for us in a real nba game or shyt done really went sideways
The Summer of 2025 was circled on the Spurs calendar ever since the Dejounte Murray trade took place. Cap space. The draft pick of a team with a semi-disgruntled star. Wemby! There was chatter that the Spurs could compete for at least a play-in spot once they brought in veterans Chris Paul and Harrison Barnes in the '24 offseason. But as a wise man once said...
June 26, 2024 - Devin Vassell undergoes foot surgery and would miss 15 of the first 25 games of the season.
November 1, 2024 - Coach Pop suffers a stroke. He would never coach another game.
November 4, 2024 - Jeremy Sochan fractures his thumb and would miss a month.
December 31, 2024 - Jeremy Sochan injures his back and would miss 6 of the next 8 games.
February 2, 2025 - sitting at 21-25, some good news. De'Aaron Fox is acquired for pennies on the dollar after he demanded a trade to San Antonio.
February 20, 2025 - Victor Wembanyama is diagnosed with a blood clot in his shoulder and would miss the remainder of the season.
March 18, 2025 - 11 games under .500, De'Aaron Fox undergoes season-ending hand surgery on his shooting hand, ending his season.
The Spurs would finish the season at 34-48, a 12 win improvement from the previous season. They had the 8th best odds in the draft and also wrote off the potential of amazing value from the Hawks' 1st rounder they owned when the Hawks snuck into the play-in. The ATL pick did fall into the lottery when the Hawks failed to advance out of the play-in. However, some of the ice on the frozen envelope from Dallas (thanks to the Luka stimulus package to LA) fell on the Spurs envelope, and the lotto gods shined once again to net the Spurs the #2 overall pick in the 2025 draft.
Now that the draft and the main portion of Free Agency are out of the way, here's my current offseason outlook of the roster. I'll link this in the OP too for easy reference.
Defense and rebounding took severe hits whenever Wemby would leave the floor last season. The Spurs locked in on those deficiencies with the FA signing of Luke Kornet and the trade for Kelly Olynyk. And then there's the less-heralded rook of the two draft picks this summer. Carter Bryant has the makings of becoming an elite defense presence in the NBA, and his jumper is pure. If he can become the 3&D specialist we've been searching for since Danny Green (and Bruce Bowen before him), CB could be an amazing asset for us.
Harper looked solid in his first summer action as well. He looks like he'll be living in the paint early on.
Health-permitting, this Spurs team should push for at least 45 wins and a play-in spot. My ceiling for them is a 6th seed and a competitive first round series, which is fine as this team needs some playoff experience. If it can't reach that goal, serious discussions need to be had about Vassell and Sochan's futures with the team (I think the writing is already on the wall for Keldon, but he's so well-liked in the locker room that he may be untouchable barring a can't-refuse type deal). In a perfect world, Vassell would come off the bench and we'd be looking at a starting 5 of Fox/Castle/Barnes/Wemby/Kornet. This would be a good mix of offense/defense and allow Wemby to play his preferred PF spot. A bench spot gives Vassell more opportunity to create instead of standing on the side watching Fox go to work. Harper is in a weird spot as well given Fox and Castle's existence on the roster, but he's the son of a pro and a great talent, so he'll get his run regardless with the potential to usurp Castle and end up in the starting lineup. Lots of options for Mitch in his first year as the head coach.
One final thought, don't extend Sochan's contract until next offseason.
GO SPURS GO!
June 26, 2024 - Devin Vassell undergoes foot surgery and would miss 15 of the first 25 games of the season.
November 1, 2024 - Coach Pop suffers a stroke. He would never coach another game.
November 4, 2024 - Jeremy Sochan fractures his thumb and would miss a month.
December 31, 2024 - Jeremy Sochan injures his back and would miss 6 of the next 8 games.
February 2, 2025 - sitting at 21-25, some good news. De'Aaron Fox is acquired for pennies on the dollar after he demanded a trade to San Antonio.
February 20, 2025 - Victor Wembanyama is diagnosed with a blood clot in his shoulder and would miss the remainder of the season.
March 18, 2025 - 11 games under .500, De'Aaron Fox undergoes season-ending hand surgery on his shooting hand, ending his season.
The Spurs would finish the season at 34-48, a 12 win improvement from the previous season. They had the 8th best odds in the draft and also wrote off the potential of amazing value from the Hawks' 1st rounder they owned when the Hawks snuck into the play-in. The ATL pick did fall into the lottery when the Hawks failed to advance out of the play-in. However, some of the ice on the frozen envelope from Dallas (thanks to the Luka stimulus package to LA) fell on the Spurs envelope, and the lotto gods shined once again to net the Spurs the #2 overall pick in the 2025 draft.
Now that the draft and the main portion of Free Agency are out of the way, here's my current offseason outlook of the roster. I'll link this in the OP too for easy reference.
PROJECTED STARTING LINEUP:
PG: De'Aaron Fox (will be 100% by training camp following surgery to a tendon in his shooting hand)
SG: Stephon Castle (reigning ROY. Will have to see how the fit with Fox looks after the Spurs criminally gave CP3 82 starts last season)
SF: Devin Vassell (offseason foot surgery last season derailed early campaign. He'd be better off the bench, but money guarantees starting nod)
PF: Jeremy Sochan (we've reached the Ben Simmons shooting clips portion of his career. Put up or shut up time for his jumper)
C: Victor Wembanyama (seems fully recovered from DVT/no travel restrictions. Most talented supporting cast he's had in his career)
BENCH:
PG: Dylan Harper
PG: Jordan McLaughlin
SF: Harrison Barnes
SF: Keldon Johnson
SF: Julian Champagnie
SF: Carter Bryant
PF: Kelly Olynyk
C: Luke Kornet
Draft Picks: Dylan Harper, Carter Bryant
Key Additions: Dylan Harper's Mom; Mitch Johnson (coach); Luke Kornet; Kelly Olynyk; David Jones-Garcia; Lindy Waters III
Key Losses: GREGG POPOVICH!!!; Chris Paul; Blake Wesley; Malaki Branham; Sandro Mamukelashvilli
Future First Round Draft Picks: 2026 (Spurs/Hawks swap); 2027 (Hawks); 2028 (Spurs; Boston swap (top 1 protected); 2029 (Spurs); 2030 (Spurs; Mavs pick swap; Wolves pick swap top 1 protected); 2031 (Spurs/Kings swap)
PG: De'Aaron Fox (will be 100% by training camp following surgery to a tendon in his shooting hand)
SG: Stephon Castle (reigning ROY. Will have to see how the fit with Fox looks after the Spurs criminally gave CP3 82 starts last season)
SF: Devin Vassell (offseason foot surgery last season derailed early campaign. He'd be better off the bench, but money guarantees starting nod)
PF: Jeremy Sochan (we've reached the Ben Simmons shooting clips portion of his career. Put up or shut up time for his jumper)
C: Victor Wembanyama (seems fully recovered from DVT/no travel restrictions. Most talented supporting cast he's had in his career)
BENCH:
PG: Dylan Harper
PG: Jordan McLaughlin
SF: Harrison Barnes
SF: Keldon Johnson
SF: Julian Champagnie
SF: Carter Bryant
PF: Kelly Olynyk
C: Luke Kornet
Draft Picks: Dylan Harper, Carter Bryant
Key Additions: Dylan Harper's Mom; Mitch Johnson (coach); Luke Kornet; Kelly Olynyk; David Jones-Garcia; Lindy Waters III
Key Losses: GREGG POPOVICH!!!; Chris Paul; Blake Wesley; Malaki Branham; Sandro Mamukelashvilli
Future First Round Draft Picks: 2026 (Spurs/Hawks swap); 2027 (Hawks); 2028 (Spurs; Boston swap (top 1 protected); 2029 (Spurs); 2030 (Spurs; Mavs pick swap; Wolves pick swap top 1 protected); 2031 (Spurs/Kings swap)
Defense and rebounding took severe hits whenever Wemby would leave the floor last season. The Spurs locked in on those deficiencies with the FA signing of Luke Kornet and the trade for Kelly Olynyk. And then there's the less-heralded rook of the two draft picks this summer. Carter Bryant has the makings of becoming an elite defense presence in the NBA, and his jumper is pure. If he can become the 3&D specialist we've been searching for since Danny Green (and Bruce Bowen before him), CB could be an amazing asset for us.
Harper looked solid in his first summer action as well. He looks like he'll be living in the paint early on.
Health-permitting, this Spurs team should push for at least 45 wins and a play-in spot. My ceiling for them is a 6th seed and a competitive first round series, which is fine as this team needs some playoff experience. If it can't reach that goal, serious discussions need to be had about Vassell and Sochan's futures with the team (I think the writing is already on the wall for Keldon, but he's so well-liked in the locker room that he may be untouchable barring a can't-refuse type deal). In a perfect world, Vassell would come off the bench and we'd be looking at a starting 5 of Fox/Castle/Barnes/Wemby/Kornet. This would be a good mix of offense/defense and allow Wemby to play his preferred PF spot. A bench spot gives Vassell more opportunity to create instead of standing on the side watching Fox go to work. Harper is in a weird spot as well given Fox and Castle's existence on the roster, but he's the son of a pro and a great talent, so he'll get his run regardless with the potential to usurp Castle and end up in the starting lineup. Lots of options for Mitch in his first year as the head coach.
One final thought, don't extend Sochan's contract until next offseason.
GO SPURS GO!
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It'll take him a minute to get PT (too raw offensively at this point), but man if he can just knock down open 3s, give him the starting 3 spot. Fox hunting steals, Castle playing physical defense, Carter all over the place, Wemby doing Wemby things. Not to mention if they run twin towers with Kornet and Wemby and Kornet starts shooting 3s again. Castle would be the actual offensive weakness (jumper-wise) in that scenario.You’re no damn good
The motor on Carter Bryant in that video tho
Not worth announcing.
Get him some rest. Then start ramping up his acclimation to the league.
With rookies I am less concerned with their ability than with their understanding of the mental part of the nba. If you can score, that’s gonna be apparent soon enough. But can you read defenses and switches and manipulate defenders. Those are the things that help to separate guys.
There’s a lot riding on this season. Wemby is healthy. So is Fox. Mitch has a lot to prove.
So we’re all agreed it’s back to 
on sight with CP3 just like old times, yah?
on sight with CP3 just like old times, yah?From an article on ESPN (so it doesn't mean a whole lot...)
NBA rebuild rankings:
Tradeable first-round picks: 3
Players on rookie-scale contracts: 5
The strategy: The Spurs and Mavs are the reminders that fortunes sometimes come down to something completely out of a franchise's control: luck.
San Antonio landed the No. 1 (Victor Wembanyama), No. 4 (Stephon Castle) and No. 2 (Harper) selections in three consecutive drafts. That trio is the envy of every team except the champion Oklahoma City Thunder in terms of young talent.
Add All-Star guard De'Aaron Fox, who arrived via a trade from the Sacramento Kings, and Devin Vassell, who signed a five-year extension in October 2023, and the Spurs have every reason to believe their rise in the difficult West will continue.
Is it working? Assuming Wembanyama has a clean bill of health after his deep vein thrombosis diagnosis in February -- the Spurs officially cleared him to return earlier this month -- his presence alone is enough for the Spurs to lead this list. The addition of Harper, in particular, adds a possible perfect long-term fit as his pick-and-roll partner.
Estimated return to relevance: San Antonio will expect to compete for a top-six playoff spot this season with Wembanyama healthy and has the combination of young players and draft picks to acquire another premium player in the coming months -- if one comes available and if San Antonio chooses to go all-in.
NBA rebuild rankings:
1. San Antonio Spurs
Players under 25: 8Tradeable first-round picks: 3
Players on rookie-scale contracts: 5
The strategy: The Spurs and Mavs are the reminders that fortunes sometimes come down to something completely out of a franchise's control: luck.
San Antonio landed the No. 1 (Victor Wembanyama), No. 4 (Stephon Castle) and No. 2 (Harper) selections in three consecutive drafts. That trio is the envy of every team except the champion Oklahoma City Thunder in terms of young talent.
Add All-Star guard De'Aaron Fox, who arrived via a trade from the Sacramento Kings, and Devin Vassell, who signed a five-year extension in October 2023, and the Spurs have every reason to believe their rise in the difficult West will continue.
Is it working? Assuming Wembanyama has a clean bill of health after his deep vein thrombosis diagnosis in February -- the Spurs officially cleared him to return earlier this month -- his presence alone is enough for the Spurs to lead this list. The addition of Harper, in particular, adds a possible perfect long-term fit as his pick-and-roll partner.
Estimated return to relevance: San Antonio will expect to compete for a top-six playoff spot this season with Wembanyama healthy and has the combination of young players and draft picks to acquire another premium player in the coming months -- if one comes available and if San Antonio chooses to go all-in.