Mixed People Ain't Black!

[bouncy]

breh this shyt only happens on the internet. In real life if someone is half black half white and if they grew up and culturally associate themselves with being black , them that is how they are accepted in there community. Same goes if they culturally associate themselves as white or "biracial" as some call themselves , they are accepted by those people as beign white or biraical. No one is rejecting them , no one is telling them what they are or aren't , who they can or cant marry, ppl outside of internet message boards mind them own dam business and live there own live's they dont try to live someone else.

I don't think this is true anymore like I used to. I thought the same way you stated BUT as I got older and heard people tell their life story, biracial people do go through an identity crisis. I used to hear them say little things here and there but I never took it serious because it my mind they were just like me but unless you are with someone 24/7 you don't know what they go through and if you have been going through this since you came to this earth I can see how overtime it can build up and be too stressful. Light skinned girls, mixed or not, really go through some shyt from what I heard and for that matter the same for guys now that I think about it because from what I was told they felt like they wasn't totally part of a certain group and if they had features that showed they were mixed like curly or straight hair or real light skin they really felt the wrath of blacks or if they had big hips or ass and curly to kinky hair they felt the wrath from other races. They had friends who would make fun of them from both sides and they said blacks were the worse especially if they wanted to do "white things".

I'm just saying biracial people do seem to go through this shyt and you would never know until they feel comfortable enough to talk about it or you just listen to them without any prejudices. Like I stated I didn't pay people like Tiger Woods any mind when he talked being different races and not just black but now I see where he's coming from.

 

[Versa]

If you're half black or more...you're a negro in every way that socially counts. fukk all this scientific and technical bull shyt.

You try and hang out with a racist group of whites if you're half negro talking about "I'm white too, guys."

They'll give you the faster than you could say Halle Berry.

Now if you choose to embrace your blackness or not is up to you, but you are what you are playa.

 

[bouncy]

If you're half black or more...you're a negro in every way that socially counts. fukk all this scientific and technical bull shyt.

You try and hang out with a racist group of whites if you're half negro talking about "I'm white too, guys."

They'll give you the faster than you could say Halle Berry.

Now if you choose to embrace your blackness or not is up to you, but you are what you are playa.

That sounds good technically but what happens when you are either raised in a white family or with both parents and do the things that the race of your parents do?. How can you truly claim one race culturally, which race is really about once you learn the history of where your ancestors come from and deal with this day and time, when you have been raised with both or one that isn't what you would be associated with if you look black like everyone else and not mixed?.

In other words how can you claim being just Black as a culture when you are more then that or not that based on how you grew up?.

It seems to me this race shyt the white power structure has created has fukked us up bad and doing this the old way like tribal communities did is better because anyone can claim a group as long as they have the same culture. Believe it or not I think black people and latins have adopted the white supremacy way of thinking and don't even realize it which in essence means we would never grow because everything we base our thought process on is based on what white supremacist taught us without us thinking if these things make sense or not and the whole goal of white supremacy is to keep other races down in ALL FORMS. It is the the thought process of an ignorant person who only judge things based on what they can see and that is it but life is more then that, in fact the things in life that effects you are what you can feel and in human terms that would mean character and the things you do, not your looks you were born with.

I understand knowing who you are and the history of the world especially when white power structure has intent to white wash everything and make it seem like whites did everything but on a personal level, that way of thinking is very ignorant and dangerous because it doesn't count people who are more then just black or white. Just because they are black doesn't mean they have the same ideals I have and the same for other races. What they do seems to be more important because it dictates how your life is effected.

 

[emoney]

Break it down for me. How is being "pure" Black different than being "pure" African? How have you determined that you qualify? Were your ancestors Black American slaves or not?

I don't want to jump to any conclusions but this is seeming like a smart dumb nikka position unfolding.

1) Black and African are not necessarily synonymous with one another. A majority of the time it is...but there are exceptions to the case:

- There are African people who are not "Black/Negro"

ie.
Berbers in North Africa
Arabs in North Africa
Afrikaners(Dutch) in South Africa
Copts in Egypt
Rashaida tribe in the Horn

- Africa is a continent and "African" refers to anyone who is from or has ancestry from that geographical region of the world

- There are Black people who are not technically "African".


2. I have done my DNA, and I'm over 90% Sub-Saharan African

3. My parents are from West Africa (Ghana) and I know my family tree going back generations

4. Slavery did not just happen to Black-Americans so not being a descendent of Black Americans who were enslaved does not mean that I do not have experience. In Africa many of the smaller tribes were conquered and enslaved by larger tribes.

 

[emoney]

Believe it or not I think black people and latins have adopted the white supremacy way of thinking and don't even realize it which in essence means we would never grow because everything we base our thought process on is based on what white supremacist taught us without us thinking if these things make sense or not.

That's exactly what has happened.

 

[Versa]

That sounds good technically but what happens when you are either raised in a white family or with both parents and do the things that the race of your parents do?. How can you truly claim one race culturally, which race is really about once you learn the history of where your ancestors come from and deal with this day and time, when you have been raised with both or one that isn't what you would be associated with if you look black like everyone else and not mixed?.

In other words how can you claim being just Black as a culture when you are more then that or not that based on how you grew up?.

It seems to me this race shyt the white power structure has created has fukked us up bad and doing this the old way like tribal communities did is better because anyone can claim a group as long as they have the same culture. Believe it or not I think black people and latins have adopted the white supremacy way of thinking and don't even realize it which in essence means we would never grow because everything we base our thought process on is based on what white supremacist taught us without us thinking if these things make sense or not and the whole goal of white supremacy is to keep other races down in ALL FORMS. It is the the thought process of an ignorant person who only judge things based on what they can see and that is it but life is more then that, in fact the things in life that effects you are what you can feel and in human terms that would mean character and the things you do, not your looks you were born with.

I understand knowing who you are and the history of the world especially when white power structure has intent to white wash everything and make it seem like whites did everything but on a personal level, that way of thinking is very ignorant and dangerous because it doesn't count people who are more then just black or white. Just because they are black doesn't mean they have the same ideals I have and the same for other races. What they do seems to be more important because it dictates how your life is effected.

A mixed person can claim whatever side they want or choose to be neutral. All I'm saying is historically a person who is mixed with half black or more black is considered black and not the other race by society in general.

A mixed person saying they're black is accepted by blacks because their skin is brown(oftentimes darker than a full blood black, too) and they almost always inherit the same social issues, stereotypes and other bullshyt that full blood blacks do.

However, a mixed person saying they're white will never be accepted because their skin is not white. It's just how it works in society and it will never change despite the fact that technically they're half and half.

I ain't saying the shyt is fair or that it's technically accurate, but life is often neither of these things. If you got a black dad, you're black. If you have a black mother, you're black. Whites ain't finna claim your ass no matter how much Metallica you listen to, so you might as well get that out of your head and roll with us or remain racially ambiguous and safe. The latter is cool as long as you're comfortable with neither side respecting or taking you serious on any level.

 

[Versa]

Just keep it neutral at all times. Nobody likes a halfie who wants to claim blackness when it's convenient and then proceed to wave their white flag proudly when it isn't. Keep that shyt consistent.

 

[Versa]

1)

2. I have done my DNA, and I'm over 90% Sub-Saharan African

Good shyt for having enough curiosity for your own self awareness to get this done. I've been curious for a while about what the process is to take this test. How much does it cost and how long does it take?

Thanks.

 

[up in here]

1) Black and African are not necessarily synonymous with one another. A majority of the time it is...but there are exceptions to the case:

- There are African people who are not "Black/Negro"

ie.
Berbers in North Africa
Arabs in North Africa
Afrikaners(Dutch) in South Africa
Copts in Egypt
Rashaida tribe in the Horn

- Africa is a continent and "African" refers to anyone who is from or has ancestry from that geographical region of the world

Afrikaners are not African.

some of you should watch this dvd

Biracial Not Black Damn It - Trailer part 1 - YouTube

i think the full thing is on youtube as well

i've seen this dvd and truthfully they took some people out of context. some of those people actually identify as "Black", some identify as "Black with white ancestry" and some identify as "biracial". While it was interesting to hear about some of the folks who were raised and identified with both parents, it didn't give any real agreed term, all it pointed out is that mixed people cop a fair bit of shyt from everyone and that their isn't an agreed consensus in regards to how mixed people identify.

Light skinned girls, mixed or not, really go through some shyt from what I heard and for that matter the same for guys now that I think about it because from what I was told they felt like they wasn't totally part of a certain group and if they had features that showed they were mixed like curly or straight hair or real light skin they really felt the wrath of blacks or if they had big hips or ass and curly to kinky hair they felt the wrath from other races. They had friends who would make fun of them from both sides and they said blacks were the worse especially if they wanted to do "white things"

light skinned/mixed folks will definitely tell you they cop alot of shyt for being light. At the same time though dark skinned people will tell you they cop alot of shyt for being dark. the end result is that dark skin and light skin folks both end up blaming each other for the shyt they get and we end up fighting each other instead of working together. dark skinned folks get jealous that light skin people get treated better (which in many cases they do), light skin folks get jealous that they have to prove their Blackness to be accepted. the whole "mixed people aint black" is an extension of that. its divide and conquer. we so busy fighting each other we dont have time to address the real things going on in our communities.

 

[The Jewnited States]

A mixed person can claim whatever side they want or choose to be neutral. All I'm saying is historically a person who is mixed with half black or more black is considered black and not the other race by society in general.

A mixed person saying they're black is accepted by blacks because their skin is brown(oftentimes darker than a full blood black, too) and they almost always inherit the same social issues, stereotypes and other bullshyt that full blood blacks do.

However, a mixed person saying they're white will never be accepted because their skin is not white. It's just how it works in society and it will never change despite the fact that technically they're half and half.

I ain't saying the shyt is fair or that it's technically accurate, but life is often neither of these things. If you got a black dad, you're black. If you have a black mother, you're black. Whites ain't finna claim your ass no matter how much Metallica you listen to, so you might as well get that out of your head and roll with us or remain racially ambiguous and safe. The latter is cool as long as you're comfortable with neither side respecting or taking you serious on any level.

why u care so much about what them crackaz think?

by 2030-2040 whites will be the minority. i'm not even sweating that shyt anymore.

as long as YOU know YOUR history and culture, where your parents/grandparents etc are from, then fukk what anyone else thinks.

 

[marcuz]

i've seen this dvd and truthfully they took some people out of context. some of those people actually identify as "Black", some identify as "Black with white ancestry" and some identify as "biracial". While it was interesting to hear about some of the folks who were raised and identified with both parents, it didn't give any real agreed term, all it pointed out is that mixed people cop a fair bit of shyt from everyone and that their isn't an agreed consensus in regards to how mixed people identify.

i dont think there will ever be "agreed" terms because blacks want to claim bi-racial people since whites reject them.

a lot of bi-racial folks don't want to be lumped in with blacks, and i understand that; they aren't black.

 

[observe]

Mixed People Ain't Black! - YouTube
he makes a valid point. anything else in the world if you mix something it is basically considered something new and not just one of the two that contributed to the mix.

I'll have to read thru this thread later on..but I'm mixed, and I consider myself black, even tho I raised by my mom who is argentine and my dad who was black was never there..but I grew up in Oakland where it's like 35% black and most of my friends were black..and of course there's the black culture of hip hop which revolves around my life and I went to prison and rode with the brothas..so I'm classified as black technically..and black people recognize me as real nikka by the way I move thru these streets..

But at the same time there's still a part of me that doesn't feel truly black...sometimes .I feel outta place around an all black crowd , just like how I feel outta place by an all white crowd, or Asian crowd..some times that happens..

And as a mixed person, I think we have it hard in life..we can't really fit in anywhere..cuz we have no full blooded race..it's hard but most people don't understand it and they think we're blessed cuz of our light skin or curly hair...

But we still get the best of both worlds look-wise

 

[Isaiah Bradley]

I know a few mix folks happy as fawk right now cause of this thread

 

[Ayo]

because they say he's a socialist, they say he wasn't born in America, he invented Obamacare, he said they didn't build that, they can't find jobs and all he does is blame Bush for the mess and he's finished his first term and things really haven't gotten much better, because he keeps trying to incite class warfare to raise taxes on the rich which really ain't gonna even cut a sliver on the deficit he ballooned up to 15 trillion and counting and he's only doing it to try and get the middle class to vote for him and not to really eradicate the deficit.

Why do you think they say that stuff?

Because he's black and they can't just come out and call him what they really want to call him

 

[Ayo]

One drop rule.

If you don't like it you're probably a self hating idiot.