MLK Malcolm X debate.

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@Blackking pretty much nailed it.

And cats thinkin people are siding with MX because they want revenge are extremely lost. Its about standing up for yourself and not being submissive. If you look at the history and laws then you see thats what they tried to make us... submissive. Easy to control. Look at ANY white revolution, they didnt even think about some passive resistance. They know that shyt doesnt accomplish the goal. And by promoting that version of "revolution" they have effectively killed it. They can change ALL the rules on the books if they want, but it doesnt matter of there are no actual real world results.

That was cause the white folk was the majority of the population in all them wars, with an effective strategy. Going all out against the CACs with only 12% of the population and very few resources will end in disaster. Like the Native Americans. You can fight without raising a gun, cause these days weapons can wipe out entire towns in minutes. Use something more effective than a gun. Like using your money to go elsewhere.
 

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That was cause the white folk was the majority of the population in all them wars, with an effective strategy. Going all out against the CACs with only 12% of the population and very few resources will end in disaster. Like the Native Americans. You can fight without raising a gun, cause these days weapons can wipe out entire towns in minutes. Use something more effective than a gun. Like using your money to go elsewhere.
even the non-violent actions (which were nearly all of them) of people like X --- were not passive.

No one is arguing head to head bloodshed.
However, if the group who throws a brick at ur head, also has a history of burning up your little girls- you do not beg to set at their demonic table. It seems soooooo great to do that. You feel accepted and warm inside once you are let in. Eventually you pretend that you actually accomplished some shyt --- when really all you've accomplished is to get some federal laws on the demonic oppressors amended books and -- to allow the rest of your people to be even further brain washed by your oppressors materialism and brain washed education. IN THE END all you really fought for was the right of your enemy to claim that he gave you rights - so you can just be happy and prosper. Eventually, even your own people start to actually believe in and celebrate these FAKE accomplishments. We celebrate the births of these movements in the same fashion we celebrate Columbus Day - and the masses of us do not see the SICK Irony in that shyt.
The Masses of us never stop to wonder y Rosa Parks is celebrated while the Bounty on Assata Shakurs head increases. We are allowed to spend 100% of our money in CAC stores - so we don't even care that public schools don't acknowledge Malcolm X day. The Fact that we needed to fight for those amendments and to fight for that acceptance, etc - clearly shows that , that shouldn't have even been our focus.
The world naturally progresses in modern nations. We were on our way to have institutional racism replace blatant racism Anyway. The religion of the NOI is fukking irrelevant - they had a way of fighting that was affective because it saved the minds of millions the way it saved Malcolm. Malcolm kept those principles even after he left the NOI and stopped believing in them. The real fight is internal....... BUT that shyt is war. Its still a war and we need to think of it as such.

Some of these people (from 60s) are still alive while our youth are either twerking or killing each other. There are more educated and conscious young black than ever.. but it's up to the 30 year old to do shyt right this time around....... and violence and random killing aren't gonna be used only because it may not be necessary --- NOT because it's foolish or because it's a big deal killing others for our causes. technology is advanced, it really takes no effort to murk The George Wallaces of today. America should be very grateful the American 'negro' is passive and forgiving and not demonic like the majority
 

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fukk what you heard, MLK was the greatest American that ever lived. .

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Malcolm was right: he was anti-capitalist, anti-imperialist, and was all about black unity, agency and self-determination around the world

KIng wanted to share toilets, restaurants, and other shyt with white people and wanted blacks love the same whites that are blowing up churches and shooting our loved ones...

You tell me who had the right idea about the black experience....

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@Blackking pretty much nailed it.

And cats thinkin people are siding with MX because they want revenge are extremely lost. Its about standing up for yourself and not being submissive. If you look at the history and laws then you see thats what they tried to make us... submissive. Easy to control. Look at ANY white revolution, they didnt even think about some passive resistance. They know that shyt doesnt accomplish the goal. And by promoting that version of "revolution" they have effectively killed it. They can change ALL the rules on the books if they want, but it doesnt matter of there are no actual real world results.

This is completely and utterly false, if you're referring to the CRM that is.....
 
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All the soft minded negros included most of us, so of course when there was the chance to integrate we fought for that instead of real shyt.
Explain to me what the bigger picture was.... because from what I see most blacks rejected 'so called revolutionaries, and hyped up politicians and civil rights workers.



I never said fake ones. To me MLK n all those guys were revolutionary as well...... just not as focus on the real goals.

Since you asked: fukk no I don't feel guilty.

I don't feel guilty about dealing with crakkers. I've learned madddd shyt from cac grimy business men who come off as nice guys. and of course i deal w a lot of indians and asians because blacks aren't producing high level tech people in mass.

I know black dudes who HAVE Zero black focus. They just do them. It's about mind set to me... I build w brothers all the time. Someone has to become fareal rich to actually build enough to were they don't have to deal w 'others'.

What the civil rights... and most black people today do is work within the system for the system. Instead of working within the system for their people. I have no intention of being 100% loyal to my business partners. I document everything and line all my ducks up. I really do like them. But the fact of the matter is they aren't black and they don't care about black youth. IF they aren't talking about creating non profits for black youth in technology- then they could die tomorrow and I wouldn't care - regardless of how many drinks we share or deals we make.
I'm only one person and I'm a flawed person x10 so my plan of attack is as follows: i don't save any money... my sons are good already for school, so there's no need for me to. I used to give away madd money at strip clubs-it's ignorant, but fareal those are single black women... We started a 501c3, wont popp off til another year cuz help this problack chick with her's first, and I donate to madd African causes. I haven't went shopping for clothes (outside of suits) in over a year, and I don't save money but I did adopt a black boy whos pops is a partner who ak'ed someone.


All this kind of reinforces my point playboy.....
 

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This is completely and utterly false, if you're referring to the CRM that is.....
Not the CRM trying to make us submissive... well kind of.

The laws and customs of this country prior to the CRM obviously, and the later preference of MLK over MX. Pac talks on it...


"No Malcolm X in my history text
why's that?
Cuz he tried to educate and liberate all blacks
Why is Martin Luther King in my book each week
he taught Blacks if they get smacked
turn the other cheek"

So think about this; Lets give MLK ALL the credit for changing the laws to "give us equal rights;" I will concede that for this point. We are still getting "smacked" so what is the remedy? What do we do now that there is supposed equality, but we are still getting smacked? When the colonists felt they were getting smacked they didnt hold hands and march, they took the King's shyt and threw it in the bushes (ocean) and told him to eat a dikk, if he had a problem with it then he can come see them... with muskets, pitchforks, arrows (from the Natives), and French muskets, etc...

What has pushing this agenda of MLK's passive resistance accomplished since they still smack us?
 
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How do you lose your sense of community when you never had one........? That's why it was so easy for nikkas to high tail it over the mountain as soon as they got a lil paper....
his point about disaggregation is still true tho.. And it's even more true if we didn't have a sense of community. It's should be obvious that if there is no sense of Community then the community becomes more vulnerable during integration.
 

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How do you lose your sense of community when you never had one........? That's why it was so easy for nikkas to high tail it over the mountain as soon as they got a lil paper....

Ever heard of black wallstreet? Tell me, what has the black community had in ANY aspect that equates to that? And thats just ONE example. Theres probably many more that are hidden, lost, and/or unrecorded since that time period.
 

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Ever heard of black wallstreet? Tell me, what has the black community had in ANY aspect that equates to that? And thats just ONE example. Theres probably many more that are hidden, lost, and/or unrecorded since that time period.
The majority of our rapes, burnings, destruction of businesses and property, and hangings are "unrecorded" .... so it wouldn't surprise me that our 'traces' of community have also been destroyed
 

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How do you lose your sense of community when you never had one........? That's why it was so easy for nikkas to high tail it over the mountain as soon as they got a lil paper....

Ever heard of black wallstreet? Tell me, what has the black community had in ANY aspect that equates to that? And thats just ONE example. Theres probably many more that are hidden, lost, and/or unrecorded since that time period.
 

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The majority of our rapes, burnings, destruction of businesses and property, and hangings are "unrecorded" .... so it wouldn't surprise me that our 'traces' of community have also been destroyed

Agreed. And that's without going back to Africa and pondering on the achievements and accomplishments that were made there. It's in our potential we just gotta stop letting the adversary lead us.


Btw didn't mean to make that post twice lol
 

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Not the CRM trying to make us submissive... well kind of.

The laws and customs of this country prior to the CRM obviously, and the later preference of MLK over MX. Pac talks on it...


"No Malcolm X in my history text
why's that?
Cuz he tried to educate and liberate all blacks
Why is Martin Luther King in my book each week
he taught Blacks if they get smacked
turn the other cheek"

So think about this; Lets give MLK ALL the credit for changing the laws to "give us equal rights;" I will concede that for this point. We are still getting "smacked" so what is the remedy? What do we do now that there is supposed equality, but we are still getting smacked? When the colonists felt they were getting smacked they didnt hold hands and march, they took the King's shyt and threw it in the bushes (ocean) and told him to eat a dikk, if he had a problem with it then he can come see them... with muskets, pitchforks, arrows (from the Natives), and French muskets, etc...

What has pushing this agenda of MLK's passive resistance accomplished since they still smack us?
 
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