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MMG Has Been Moved Over To Atlantic Records Where Young Jeezy is Sr. VP of A&R
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Tuc2DaBoot
Pro
The Coli hosts some of the biggest stans of MMG that I have ever seen. 
You have some folks on here who REFUSE to admit that MMG is taking some setbacks... regardless of whatever is being reported.
Just because YOU love the music doesn't mean the general population does. Not everyone likes what you like. That's called the real world... something that some Coli folks love to forget about.
Simply put... MMG going to Atlantic is not an automatic win. Grand Hustle is all but finished on that label. Some of these Grand Hustle artists are calling promoters/club owners BEGGING to get shows. Some of them can't even get people in their own city to show up to their video shoots.
Wiz didn't put up the big numbers he should have on ONIFC, Lupe is struggling... but now MMG all of a sudden is about to change ALL that when NONE of them have sold over 500k within the last year?
Just accept your favorite rappers aren't as big as you OR they think they are and people wouldn't clown them so much.
You have some folks on here who REFUSE to admit that MMG is taking some setbacks... regardless of whatever is being reported.
Just because YOU love the music doesn't mean the general population does. Not everyone likes what you like. That's called the real world... something that some Coli folks love to forget about.
Simply put... MMG going to Atlantic is not an automatic win. Grand Hustle is all but finished on that label. Some of these Grand Hustle artists are calling promoters/club owners BEGGING to get shows. Some of them can't even get people in their own city to show up to their video shoots.
Wiz didn't put up the big numbers he should have on ONIFC, Lupe is struggling... but now MMG all of a sudden is about to change ALL that when NONE of them have sold over 500k within the last year?
Just accept your favorite rappers aren't as big as you OR they think they are and people wouldn't clown them so much.
nikkaz going to start taking the Flo Rida route pretty soon to make some money.. Flo Rida got to be one of the richest non-hiphop rap artist right now.
Tuc2DaBoot
Pro
They didn't force anyone, they told cats what to do if they wanted a successful album. Wiz sold 800k, they told Lupe which singles have and who to produce them and he sold well(ironically it was the 2 best songs on the album) and on. All these dudes could do whatever they wanted, according to both of'em. Wiz said that he did like the label told him to do. And he sold 800k and stacked 11 million that year. B.o.b. loves what he does. And Flo-rida is an international superstar.
All these dudes besides Lupe doesn't give 2 fukks about mics and shyt, they care about Benjamin Franklin. And that's what they got for listening. And Lupe got 2 smash hit singles, and got to choose his own 12 records and probably all of them were weaker than the singles. Thus far Lupe is the only one who bytched about the label, and it turned out that they only wanted to give him 2 smash singles (but that made him hate the album, cause it insulted his artistic freedom).
Then tell Wiz and them to accept their roles in hip-hop and stop getting upset. Or should I say, stop faking getting upset. Wiz bytched on Taylor Allderdice about how Rolling Papers wasn't what he wanted. Well did he want the money or the acclaim? Because he's not good enough of an artist to get both.
B.o.B.'s formula worked for ONE album... his second one bricked something serious and now he's got a new mixtape trying to go back to the sound of pre-2009 B.o.B. and now no one gives a fukk. Shouldn't he be like Flo-Rida and just stick with the pop singles? Or is that lane already clogged up with Flo & Pitbull?
The truth is the artists love the money until their feelings get hurt watching folks clown them long enough. You'd think these rappers would be too big to respond to nobodies yet a LOT of them do. I wonder why...
Wiz said he listened to the label and in hindsight he should've put his foot down, but he said he did what they told him. So he didn't say they forced him or whatever and just like with Lupe their influence was in the singles all of which were very successful (Roll Up might've been short term thinking though, even though it was very successful). I've only heard Lupe getting upset and bytching about it.
Now maybe it wasn't meant to be for B.o.b., maybe his first album sold more than he should've sold considering his fanbase. All I know is that he's not complained and said he wants a balance between pop and hiphop. Just like he has it. His first album felt like it was buzzing due to the hits he was putting out and not him as a rapper unlike someone like Kendrick Lamar.. We've got to consider the fact that rappers having 5 straight gold albums like Rick Ross or being like Jeezy, Ross etc is not a normal thing. Even some of raps biggest stars like Master P only got plaques for 4 years in a period when everyone was getting plaques.
nikkas should've BEEN doing that... I used to say that shyt all the time... shyt it can't hurt...
OnlyInCalifornia
Southern California/Vegas
The Coli hosts some of the biggest stans of MMG that I have ever seen.
You have some folks on here who REFUSE to admit that MMG is taking some setbacks... regardless of whatever is being reported.
Just because YOU love the music doesn't mean the general population does. Not everyone likes what you like. That's called the real world... something that some Coli folks love to forget about.
Simply put... MMG going to Atlantic is not an automatic win. Grand Hustle is all but finished on that label. Some of these Grand Hustle artists are calling promoters/club owners BEGGING to get shows. Some of them can't even get people in their own city to show up to their video shoots.
Wiz didn't put up the big numbers he should have on ONIFC, Lupe is struggling... but now MMG all of a sudden is about to change ALL that when NONE of them have sold over 500k within the last year?
Just accept your favorite rappers aren't as big as you OR they think they are and people wouldn't clown them so much.
They moved the entire urban division over. Since MMG is the most visible it got reported this way.
They are not taking an 'L' on this because Warner made adjustments to their business. No one said MMG is going to save the day and that is not why they did it. Todd Moscowitz didn't deliver and what he said he would do as the boss of urban. He took the L and they moved it under someone else over at Atlantic.
Real shyt....they wanna "expand they brand" ie sellout/crossover then get mad when they original fanbase and supporters hate that shyt
....its damn near like if I wuz datin a fat woman bcuz I liked fat women...and then she decide she wanna lose 150lbs to look good to the masses...then wanna 
when she come around me in sum lingerie and get the now......"bu bu but I thought u liked me for me" nikka this is hiphop we don't give a fuk about u once your music is wack as fuk and no longer attractive,its always a new fat whale out there lookin to fill the lane u thought u wuz to big to fill,and felt u had to get greedy and go for more looks.....as artist they should be aware that's the mindset of most hiphop fans and they should get they money the best way they can....if u truly believe u have the talent to survive long term I think its been proven outright selling out is not the best way to go though...if u think u got short term talent by all means u probaly should sell the fuk out and get as muchh money as possible....u will be clowned but fuk it
Tuc2DaBoot
Pro
That's where accountability comes in. Something a lot of rappers and their fans don't like to do. No one told Wiz to sign to a major twice. No one told him to sign to Atlantic. Anyone who looks at Atlantic's track record knows what type of music they expect you to put out. So if he didn't like it, that's on him... so yes this second time around, the anticipation wasn't as strong and that has to do somewhat with the reception of the first album. Many artists don't get many chances to prove themselves worthy to the public.
As far as B.o.B., he's looking like an one album wonder. Sounds like some of the artists from a while back... like Chingy and Mike Jones. Nowadays, Chingy is living mediocre as hell even though he sold 3+ million records. Mike Jones sold 2+ million and that man looks unhealthy as hell. The MAJORITY of these rappers go broke... just like athletes. Yet people have this weird view that these artists will be fine after one successful album.
Truth is... these artists want a career as long as possible. But very few of them are executing the formula to do so.
Tuc2DaBoot
Pro
You good people with me, you know that. We speak on Twitter and all that... but let's be honest. MMG is getting caught in the crossfire... but their numbers are not what they should be. Period. They're not the full reason that Todd failed, but they are PART of it.
But in general, I will say that the music business is taking a huge L. Most of these label heads that run labels can't stand rap. They don't like it. They have been working hard to transform mainstream rap into the euro trance/house craze that it is becoming. So why rappers still try to get things popping on majors is beyond me... and Ross has to realize that his style of rap is fading out of the mainstream, slowly but surely.
OnlyInCalifornia
Southern California/Vegas
The entire urban division got moved over, it is more than just MMG. Currensy, Gucci Mane, Common got moved as well. It didn't get moved because of MMG, it got moved over all because Gucci Mane's last shyt did nothing. Currensy put out a good album (IMO) and it didn't do anything. In fact it could just be that they think Todd Moscowitz pissed away the buzz all these artists had in the last 2 years and didn't do enough. That falls on his head and that is why he lost his spot as the head of the urban division. Everyone on that label had a nice lil buzz they created for themselves.
I don't think you want to talk 'numbers' when neither you or I know what the budget was, what was invested, and how much they made or didn't make. For all we know the budget was small, they didn't pay for production costs, and the only did the distribution. Unless you are at MMG or Warner there is no way to know if it was good or bad really. If an album only moves 300,000 units but they spent nothing on marketing, nothing on artist development, etc then it could still make money. These labels have adjusted to selling less and have streamlined things accordingly. They are acting like they are dead broke. Same thing in the car business. They are acting like they are dead broke but the executives are still pulling in giant salaries, owners still making tons of cash. Maybe not as much as 15 years ago but they are not hurting. They just arent pissing out champagne and snorting coke all over town like they used to.
tremonthustler1
aka bx_representer
it's not bad news. It just means they got moved to a different label all under the same umbrella. It's like Ne-Yo going from Def Jam to Motown. Different name, same building.
Besides, MMG's roster is all over the place anyway.
Gunplay /Ross- Def Jam
French Montana- Interscope
everybody else- moves to Atlantic on the next release (not sure if Wale's next project will be Warner Bros. still, but if not, he moves too). Really it just means if you make urban music, you'll be under Atlantic, not Warner. Warner will cater to other genres.
Also not sure how MMG contributed to whatever lagging sales they had if Wale did better than anyone could have imagined and then Meek has done a solid job and whatever they get from those Self Made projects are extra.
Besides, MMG's roster is all over the place anyway.
Gunplay /Ross- Def Jam
French Montana- Interscope
everybody else- moves to Atlantic on the next release (not sure if Wale's next project will be Warner Bros. still, but if not, he moves too). Really it just means if you make urban music, you'll be under Atlantic, not Warner. Warner will cater to other genres.
Also not sure how MMG contributed to whatever lagging sales they had if Wale did better than anyone could have imagined and then Meek has done a solid job and whatever they get from those Self Made projects are extra.
Ronnie Lott
#49erGang
And now y'all see why Luda dropped a pop/house/electro single! He just validated what these labels are tryng to turn hip hop into
so they got moved cause warnerbros urban got shutdown