Modern Hip Hop production is amazing

[ryshy]

that ali bomaye song is sort of a mix between heatmakerz/just blaze, and the current lex luger-ish sound.

not exactly an advancement but at least its an attempt of advancement by throwing twists in the game, and sounding fresh in the process of combining the old with new............which is exactly what hip-hop is supposed to be about.

who produced it anyway? I like it. an ideal track for rappers to freestyle over.

i made a beat kinda like that, i actually have a lot of beats ill probably put some out there soon

i feel u tho those beats are great for showcasing rappers and making a great song

 

[ryshy]

what is so difficult about making these beats? theyre all been there & done that beats. I actually like a couple of them a lot but theres nothing original or mind-blowing about them like you claim.

in order to make a g-funk beat, if it was a sample, you had to know your music, have some crates to dig in, know how to dig in them, know how to sample and flip a record, etc etc. it required actual music knowledge and musicianship. not some chit that you can make on your laptop in 20 minutes while eating dinner. ive literally seen beats that are arguably better than some of these being made in that manner by hack-job wannabe producers. most of these just dont impress me. and I don't even know what you mean by "east coast beats" but no comment on that.

are you a producer? I mean like a producer producer, not someone who made a couple boom bap inspired beats an posted them on soundcloud?
does this sound like what i posted above?



BTW im not discrediting any other style of music i just think the way these beats sound is underrated, tbh i dont care anymore about how derivative they are, im sayin theyre fukkin deep its hard to explain but some of these r just silly karate chop makes a nikka have a seizure

 

[Poetical Poltergeist]

are you a producer? I mean like a producer producer, not someone who made a couple boom bap inspired beats an posted them on soundcloud?
does this sound like what i posted above?

yah that track there is about as generic as they come.

 

[DaHNIC82]

i dont know if yall know how hard it is to make this shyt

when have u ever heard some shyt like this?

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if nikkas heard this shyt in the 1800's theyd b like

The bulk of this shyt will be forgotten in 2 years

 

[Poitier]

The bulk of this shyt will be forgotten in 2 years

And you act like old rap isn't mostly forgotten?

 

[Ciggavelli]

No Mike Will or Harry Fraud mentioned

 

[DaHNIC82]

And you act like old rap isn't mostly forgotten?

Nothing to do with old rap. More with the fact that many within trying their hardest to force-feed classics because their salty of the fact that they missed out at a stage where hip hop was flourishing creatively .

Its close to 20 years and Who Shot Ya, Ambitonz as a Ridah, C.R.E.A.M, and other "Old rap" are still being used as Instrumentals for movie credits, radio introductions, video games, and used to freestyles today. Who the fukk gonna remember or even play Lil Durk and Santana's Beef?

 

[Poitier]

Aphex Twin is a better producer than any live instrument player of the last 50 years.

 

[Poitier]

Nothing to do with old rap. More with the fact that many within trying their hardest to force-feed classics because their salty of the fact that they missed out at a stage where hip hop was flourishing creatively .

Its close to 20 years and Who Shot Ya, Ambitonz as a Ridah, C.R.E.A.M, and other "Old rap" are still being used as Instrumentals for movie credits, radio introductions, video games, and used to freestyles today. Who the fukk gonna remember or even play Lil Durk and Santana's Beef?

LOL name the last time those songs were used in movie credits?

Also, none of can predict what will stick in the future so your claim is kind of useless.

Music in general was flourishing, not just rap, and not because of some golden-age aesthetic that isn't available now but because people have the means to get it for free.

 

[Long Live The Kane]

this is the issue, everyone thinks live instruments are naturally better than electronic stuff, imo i love electronic instruments i think they sound amazing and original, but no one wants to credit them because theyre still into live, soulful music

im not talkin about anything BUT the beat and how it sounds, not the connotation around it of nostalga or whatever...i find most production besides what i posted to be pretty bland and lacking of layers and energy

EDIT: yall clearly dont know shyt about this music, probably shoulda expected this from this forum...not complaining it was my bad.....

if you think these beats are the same you dont know what your talking about

Yeah...you're trying to have an impossible conversation homie...i could have told you that before you made your edit ...you would have to use a jedi mind trick to raise the level of discourse above "music now BAD...music back then GOOD"

 

[Kingshango]

I humbly disagree.

 

[bouncy]

idk how to explain it, im not talkin bout trap im talkin bout fire beats. But anyway, making those beats is hard as shyt an they are ridiculously massive and evolving productions. Gfunk an east coast beats were pretty simple i can make something like that in a hour or less, but beats like these take time to perfect, a lot of time. Gettin subbass that deep like in all me, making everything fit in the mix, all the effects and modulation they got goin on, idk i think this shyt is amazing in terms of technical complexity. No music has ever been made like this stuff, it goes against a lot of traditional production standards

Beats now are way easier to make compared to anytime before the mid 90's. Do you know how much perfection was needed to have all the instruments come in on time, the drummer to stau at the correct bpm, the audio to be recorded as clean possible, have enough money to buy a board with enough tracks, and have a good amount of effects processors to make the sound you want. Then you need to have enough tape to record everything. All of this AFTER mastering your instrument. They made bangers still. Yeah, it is way easier now.

Here's a fun fact for you. EPMD had to loop tape around a room and use a pencil to make a loop of a record since they didn't have a sampler and their first album was a classic. THATS HIP HOP. Make something out of nothing.

 

[Poitier]

*Harder does not equal better.

 

[bouncy]

Aphex Twin is a better producer than any live instrument player of the last 50 years.

Better then George Clinton, Bootsy Collins, or Quincy Jones?.

 

[Mr.Black]

all these rap beats be sounding like some techno shyt with some drums nowadays