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Of course Sean had 3 Top 40 hits.That old news now. Outside of Guap which charted at 71 on Billboard what singles flopped? Switch Up wasn't a official single? it was a promo track. Beware just got release to radio 2 weeks ago and you already calling it a flop :what: :laugh: at being focused at Rich Homie Quan. How many times I'm gonna tell you Sean has said time and time again that he's going a different direction this album. Finally Famous was a single oriented album. Sean has stated time and time again that he hated that album. A lot of his core fans hated it because it was a poppy sounded album.He won a lot of those fans back with that Detroit mixtape. This time Sean created a complete body of work. Also can't forget that Sean is a bigger artist than time around than what he was when FF came out. When HOF drops you will see. nikkas really think Sean about to flop :russ:


"Guap" flopped for one... #71 or not it was his *WORSE* charting Single to date & all it did was further prove to DJ that Sean was falling off... 2... "Switch Up" had nowhere near the impact "I Do It" did when it first came out...

3rd... we're really gonna sit here & pretend "Detroit" wasn't an actual album that got turned into the label & Def Jam tossed that shyt in the bushes because it had ZERO COMMERCIAL APPEAL... we're really gonna pretend??? You're on Big Sean's team right??? Then stop fronting about Sean pushing back his own release date... Def Jam has tossed Sean's release date in the bushes for a year straight now because he can't seem to get people to care about him anymore because he's not making anything remotely appealing as his first 3...

Let me break this down in a way that even the most RETARDED fan of music can understand...

"My Last"... A very solid first Single featuring an A-List Artist in Chris Brown that had a hook that anybody from the ages of 18-38 could sing & relate to. It was a Club/Sex record that had a very "ear candy" beat & Big Sean was basically singing/harmonizing his verses in a way that successful rappers like 50 Cent have done time & time again...

"My Last" peaked at #10 on Billboard...

"Marvin & Chardonnay"... Very catchy beat... with features from an A-Lister in Kanye West & Roscoe Dash at the *PEAK* of his career. The song has very Sing-Song verses that are catchy & Big Sean is singing/harmonizing his verse. The song also appeals to anyone just trying to have a good time at the club because it's a fun song with a lot of appeal to different audiences that need an escape from a rough week to enjoy partying...

"Marvin & Chardonnay" peaked at #32 on Billboard and #1 on Hip-Hop/R&B...

"A$$"... A song with a beat that's catchy, gets people dancing & also dudes can ride around bumping it because of the bass & it featured Nicki Minaj at the height of her career. It's a fun club song that made every woman on the dance floor shake their ass during the hook & Big Seans arrangements on the song are nothing short of genius because they are short, catchy & even a retard can sing it...

"A$$" peaks at #10 on Billboard...

"Guap" tho??? Big Sean hadn't carried a song by himself to date & his singing on the hook was God awful. He's not doing the Sing-Song flows that got him fans... he's just rapping on it. Also let's look at the content. His first 3 Songs were very clubbish & appealing to different ages & audiences yet "Guap" is basically about his "nikkas riding around & getting money" which was a dumb as fukk move to make because the appeal is so limited & Sean was NOT a big enough artist to try to carry a Single by himself & he should've learned that from years of failed singles after failed singles when he was nothing more then the dude helping Kanye write & sitting on Good Music's bench... but he let the success of the first album pump his head up & make him think he was bigger then he really is... FLOP...

"Switch Up"...??? Who is supposed to like this song??? "nikkas"...??? FLOP...

"Beware"... Really??? A Kid Cudi throwaway track warning "nikkas" to beware of these hoes??? FLOP...

Big Sean went from making Club/Fun/Catchy songs to trying too hard to appeal to strictly "nikkas" when his first 3 Singles were geared towards *WOMEN*...

From his own words... "I don't want to be known as a Bubblegum Rapper..." when he got NOWHERE making music his way until No I.D. convinced Kanye to let him work with him because he saw the new generation Fabolous in him...

Congrats Big Sean... you've finally done it... you've alienated your fanbase of clubgoers & women to try to make an album your "nikkas" can ride around too & it's coming back to bite you in the A$$... no pun intended...

fukking Idiot... :snoop:
 
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Yo are you on Sean's team? I'm a huge fan too, I've supported him here, and I'm looking forward to the album. But you're really copping please. First you say only one single flopped. Where has he said he hated Finally Famous? And have you heard the new album, or are you just making assumptions? :aicmon:

What singles flopped? Even if you say Guap flopped what other singles flopped? "Switch Up" wasn't a official single. Beware just got released to radio 2 weeks ago. How is it flopping? Look at the songs "Beware" it ahead of on Itunes and on the Rhythmic & Urban Charts. Check the stats.

Sean on Finally Famous

"I ain't really like it that much," Sean says outright when reflecting back on the past year. "On the first album I wasn't really in love with every single one. I just think it was a timing thing, I just started getting into the groove I was starting to feel comfortable right when it was due. Really when it was past due, and it kind of fukked me up."

"You live and you learn and I'm glad it went like that. I'm glad my first album was the way it was and I'm glad the second album is the way it is shaping up to be," Sean begins. "I think my first album had a lot of radio songs on it and that is an important part of things and it is a necessity you have to establish. At least radio knows me now as a presence and now they'd be willing to take more chances on me and that's what this second album is. It's all about taking chances. [The second album's] a little bit more personal and making some new Isht for the radio instead of trying to go for something else." -
 
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"Guap" flopped for one... #71 or not it was his *WORSE* charting Single to date & all it did was further prove to DJ that Sean was falling off... 2... "Switch Up" had nowhere near the impact "I Do It" did when it first came out...

3rd... we're really gonna sit here & pretend "Detroit" wasn't an actual album that got turned into the label & Def Jam tossed that shyt in the bushes because it had ZERO COMMERCIAL APPEAL... we're really gonna pretend??? You're on Big Sean's team right??? Then stop fronting about Sean pushing back his own release date... Def Jam has tossed Sean's release date in the bushes for a year straight now because he can't seem to get people to care about him anymore because he's not making anything remotely appealing as his first 3...

Let me break this down in a way that even the most RETARDED fan of music can understand...

"My Last"... A very solid first Single featuring an A-List Artist in Chris Brown that had a hook that anybody from the ages of 18-38 could sing & relate to. It was a Club/Sex record that had a very "ear candy" beat & Big Sean was basically singing/harmonizing his verses in a way that successful rappers like 50 Cent have done time & time again...

"My Last" peaked at #10 on Billboard...

"Marvin & Chardonnay"... Very catchy beat... with features from an A-Lister in Kanye West & Roscoe Dash at the *PEAK* of his career. The song has very Sing-Song verses that are catchy & Big Sean is singing/harmonizing his verse. The song also appeals to anyone just trying to have a good time at the club because it's a fun song with a lot of appeal to different audiences that need an escape from a rough week to enjoy partying...

"Marvin & Chardonnay" peaked at #32 on Billboard and #1 on Hip-Hop/R&B...

"A$$"... A song with a beat that's catchy, gets people dancing & also dudes can ride around bumping it because of the bass & it featured Nicki Minaj at the height of her career. It's a fun club song that made every woman on the dance floor shake their ass during the hook & Big Seans arrangements on the song are nothing short of genius because they are short, catchy & even a retard can sing it...

"A$$" peaks at #10 on Billboard...

"Guap" tho??? Big Sean hadn't carried a song by himself to date & his singing on the hook was God awful. He's not doing the Sing-Song flows that got him fans... he's just rapping on it. Also let's look at the content. His first 3 Songs were very clubbish & appealing to different ages & audiences yet "Guap" is basically about his "nikkas riding around & getting money" which was a dumb as fukk move to make because the appeal is so limited & Sean was NOT a big enough artist to try to carry a Single by himself & he should've learned that from years of failed singles after failed singles when he was nothing more then the dude helping Kanye write & sitting on Good Music's bench... but he let the success of the first album pump his head up & make him think he was bigger then he really is... FLOP...

"Switch Up"...??? Who is supposed to like this song??? "nikkas"...??? FLOP...

"Beware"... Really??? A Kid Cudi throwaway track warning "nikkas" to beware of these hoes??? FLOP...

Big Sean went from making Club/Fun/Catchy songs to trying too hard to appeal to strictly "nikkas" when his first 3 Singles were geared towards *WOMEN*...

From his own words... "I don't want to be known as a Bubblegum Rapper..." when he got NOWHERE making music his way until No I.D. convinced Kanye to let him work with him because he saw the new generation Fabolous in him...

Congrats Big Sean... you've finally done it... you've alienated your fanbase of clubgoers & women to try to make an album your "nikkas" can ride around too & it's coming back to bite you in the A$$... no pun intended...

fukking Idiot... :snoop:


Detroit wasn't no damn album :laugh: What are you talking about? He recorded Detroit and his album separately. nikka I telling you it wasn't a album. Detroit were records he been recording for the past two years. Def Jam didn't want to rush the album that's why they agree with Sean to push the album back. Sean was dropping videos from the Detroit mixtape all the way til December of last year why rush a album out?

Funny thing is that it was Kanye who told Sean to drop Guap first. Sean wanted "Beware" first.
Anyways :why: are you still bringing up FF singles. That's shyt is done. Let's talk about now

Switch Up wasn't a official single. I'm been telling y'all for months now. He confirmed it on the Breakfast Club when they asked him about it and why he didn't promote that record.

Beware is flopping but it's rising up the radio charts charts everyday :laugh: Radio spins are rising everyday nationally.

You the same one that said you didn't follow Sean until Finally Famous the album came out.
 
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What singles flopped? Even if you say Guap flopped what other singles flopped? "Switch Up" wasn't a official single. Beware just got released to radio 2 weeks ago. How is it flopping? Look at the songs "Beware" it ahead of on Itunes and on the Rhythmic & Urban Charts. Check the stats.

Sean on Finally Famous

"I ain't really like it that much," Sean says outright when reflecting back on the past year. "On the first album I wasn't really in love with every single one. I just think it was a timing thing, I just started getting into the groove I was starting to feel comfortable right when it was due. Really when it was past due, and it kind of fukked me up."

"You live and you learn and I'm glad it went like that. I'm glad my first album was the way it was and I'm glad the second album is the way it is shaping up to be," Sean begins. "I think my first album had a lot of radio songs on it and that is an important part of things and it is a necessity you have to establish. At least radio knows me now as a presence and now they'd be willing to take more chances on me and that's what this second album is. It's all about taking chances. [The second album's] a little bit more personal and making some new Isht for the radio instead of trying to go for something else." -

You're on his team, that's cool. Push your guy; as an artist manager myself, I feel you. And I rock w/Sean too, big supporter over the years; I was at the Late Registration listening party in Detroit when he first asked Kanye to sign him. Guess your comments would make a bit more sense if you were up front about your role with him instead of not answering the question; gives more context to your answers. I like IR too, even though I can't ever get my artists on there, lol

At any rate, thanks for the rest of the info. I'll give you that Beware hasn't been out for very long, and there's still time to work it. Maybe it's a slow burn of a single. But I, and a lot of other people, expect Sean's singles to pop bigger and more quickly. Beware doesn't feel like an instant hit to many people. I'm looking forward to hearing the album though
 

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I'm looking forward to HOF...but what's the point of dropping a 16 second clip of buildup and 1 sec of the actual beat :what:

I hope the album is in line with the joint from the announcement video.



I dig Big Sean over track like this and or Higher off Detroit. I don't mind the turnt up type shyt but I fukk with this vibe.
 
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You're on his team, that's cool. Push your guy; as an artist manager myself, I feel you. And I rock w/Sean too, big supporter over the years; I was at the Late Registration listening party in Detroit when he first asked Kanye to sign him. Guess your comments would make a bit more sense if you were up front about your role with him instead of not answering the question; gives more context to your answers. I like IR too, even though I can't ever get my artists on there, lol

At any rate, thanks for the rest of the info. I'll give you that Beware hasn't been out for very long, and there's still time to work it. Maybe it's a slow burn of a single. But I, and a lot of other people, expect Sean's singles to pop bigger and more quickly. Beware doesn't feel like an instant hit to many people. I'm looking forward to hearing the album though

Yeah looking like Beware is a slow burn single. Been picking up steam lately. Once the music video is released the song will only get much bigger in my opinion. "Beware" is a throwback record for Sean from his mixtapes days "Love Song" ft Suai, "Love Story" etc. A lot of his older fans love the record. Don't get me wrong he still got bangers on deck on the album. The Da Internz got 2 crazy ones (Mona Lisa was produced by them). The album is way more personal and introspective. He just wanted a personal record as the first single.
 

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Detroit wasn't no damn album :laugh: What are you talking about? He recorded Detroit and his album separately. nikka I telling you it wasn't a album. Detroit were records he been recording for the past two years. Def Jam didn't want to rush the album that's why they agree with Sean to push the album back. Sean was dropping videos from the Detroit mixtape all the way til December of last year why rush a album out?

Funny thing is that it was Kanye who told Sean to drop Guap first. Sean wanted "Beware" first.
Anyways :why: are you still bringing up FF singles. That's shyt is done. Let's talk about now

Switch Up wasn't a official single. I'm been telling y'all for months now. He confirmed it on the Breakfast Club when they asked him about it and why he didn't promote that record.

Beware is flopping but it's rising up the radio charts charts everyday :laugh: Radio spins are rising everyday nationally.

You the same one that said you didn't follow Sean until Finally Famous the album came out.

Are you on Big Sean's team??? Because you have NO IDEA what you're talking about, lol...

Simple Yes or No...
 
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Are you on Big Sean's team??? Because you have NO IDEA what you're talking about, lol...

Simple Yes or No...

I'm :laugh: because you think what you saying if fact. You think I'm just making shyt up just to make shyt up? Go back and read every post I have made about Sean and the projects he was working on at the time and show me when I have been off based about information on him. You been proven wrong time and time again. You the same one that said Def Jam had no plans on the releasing HOF this year. Said you was in Def Jam offices and didn't see Big Sean's name on the albums release date list. 2 hours laters Sean dropped the release date but you was in DJ offices a day before :laugh:

Look up everything I have posted in this thread. All facts.

You the same one that said Sean lied about freestyling at the radio station when I know the person who drove him to the radio station that day :laugh: Don't questioned by knowledge on this shyt.
 

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I'm :laugh: because you think what you saying if fact. You think I'm just making shyt up just to make shyt up? Go back and read every post I have made about Sean and the projects he was working on at the time and show me when I have been off based about information on him. You been proven wrong time and time again. You the same one that said Def Jam had no plans on the releasing HOF this year. Said you was in Def Jam offices and didn't see Big Sean's name on the albums release date list. 2 hours laters Sean dropped the release date but you was in DJ offices a day before :laugh:

Look up everything I have posted in this thread. All facts.

You the same one that said Sean lied about freestyling at the radio station when I know the person who drove him to the radio station that day :laugh: Don't questioned by knowledge on this shyt.

So basically NO... you're NOT on Big Sean's team and are just a Stan with nothing better to do...

LOL at you saying "Guap" wasn't a FLOP because it got to #71 on Billboard... you've been trying to cover up his fukkups for the last year & just prove time & time again that you're nothing more then someone who follows Big Sean on Twitter something serious & have dodged questions regarding him time & time again because you don't actually know Big Sean... let that sink in for a second... :heh:
 
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So basically NO... you're NOT on Big Sean's team and are just a Stan with nothing better to do...

LOL at you saying "Guap" wasn't a FLOP because it got to #71 on Billboard... you've been trying to cover up his fukkups for the last year & just prove time & time again that you're nothing more then someone who follows Big Sean on Twitter something serious & have dodged questions regarding him time & time again because you don't actually know Big Sean... let that sink in for a second... :heh:

Dodge what questions? Everything you typing has been bullshyt. Show me where I been wrong about? Now that you can't refute nothing I'm a liar :laugh: Take your L. I'm sonning you too much. This nikka said Detroit was the official album :laugh: Sean lied about freestyling at the radio station :laugh: Def Jam shelving the album :laugh: but somehow I'm lying? What else you wanna know?
 
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