"Moonlight' allows Black manhood to exist beyond toxic masculinity " - Essence Mag

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I'm not angry my parents brought me into the world, I'm doing fairly well for myself. I am an anomaly in the community I come from where most of the people I grew up with are still living in poverty yet they are producing children who are born into mediocrity instead of exercising responsibility with their sexual organs.

Again, what are YOUR suggestions, as much as you complain about my suggestions, they exist whereas yours are very absent.
matt you already said you wish your parents had never given birth to you :mjlol:

charles manson had suggestions too. you sound as crazy as him right now:mjlol:
 

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Telling a Black boy "don't cry, man up" is an example of toxic masculinity.
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Nothing about the conditions that'll force a man to teach his son that crying won't be acceptable outside of his home, so don't expect it fly inside?

My father was straight up told as a child; don't expect me (his father) to hug you, the white man ain't gonna hug you.

Meanwhile, the discussion of masculinity is basically a social one, where black men are just big meanies who need to soften up on women and homosexual. But, we forget; they were killing black boys for being playful, if it meant communicating with white people.

They were demanding black MEN, hold their head down and not even make eye contact with a white BOY.

That same grandfather, was a man tortured by the American South enough to have to move his entire family.

So, excuse my grandpa (and other men like him) for trying to insulate/prepare his son (my father) from this wicked world.

We look at masculinity in a vacuum and makes people engaging in the discussion sound like teenagers arguing about what happens at their respective schools and what doesn't. Just another form of (another PC/SJW/liberal term) victim blaming.

Meanwhile; Dylan Roof and James Holmes are looked at with sympathy in the face of their aggressive actions of mass murder.

Michael Brown's death is looked at as his "fault" BECAUSE of his alleged aggressive behavior (ie Darren Wilson expects us to believe Mike was running at him through bullets).

Black men HAVE TO BE "tougher" to survive in this motherfukka. And we get blamed for it.
 

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As if teaching your son to remain composed under pressures is "toxic", even though said characteristic is responsible for driving man kind forward and building civilisations. What he said actually speaks volumes, in all seriousness I'm really starting to understand male feminist types like @Matt504.

The issue is a lot of feminist nikkas grew up without good male mentors or their fathers were ineffective, so they simple dont know what it is to be masculine nor do they see the value in it.

I grew up in a two parent household and have a great father that I regularly communicate with. I'm not a male feminist at all, I'm just pro responsibility and anti dysfunction. Toxic masculinty doesn't create men who remain composed under pressure, it creates men who act out in an unhealthy way because they don't know how to express themselves in a constructive way.

There's no shortage of "man up" in the Black community and there's no shortage of emotional Black men who respond with anger or violence over matters that could be resolved with better communication.
 

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matt you already said you wish your parents had never given birth to you :mjlol:

charles manson had suggestions too. you sound as crazy as him right now:mjlol:

You have no suggestions. You have emotions that you can't articulate with words because your parents and education system have utterly failed you.
 

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It's like HBO never aired The Wire......

Omar= Gay black anti-hero, who made a name for robbing drug crews, and then giving out money to the people in the neighborhood.

Wallace= soft-ass Dope Boy, who made sure that the project kids go to school and do their homework

Bubbles= lifetime fiend who finally got his shyt together and got clean


The Wire is the exception not the rule, breh. :manny:

Some nikkas is gay and if they want to make a film then whats the issue. And Toxic Masculinity isn't code for "straight nikkas" its code for "nikkas who posture so much that they feel the need to validate themselves by not giving a fukk about women".

The Coli blows my mind with how much you all actually don't know anything.

I have no desire to see the film one way or the other though :manny:
 

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I don't see how one movie defines black masculinity. Thats like saying Don't be a menace while drinking your juice in the hood accurately portrayed all black men and black communities. This movie is just that, a movie. Accept it as such and stop acting like this movie will effeminate every young black person that watches it. This whole feminization shtick is overplayed. Black masculinity survived slavery, the fukk is a movie gonna do to it? :heh:
 

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I grew up in a two parent household and have a great father that I regularly communicate with. I'm not a male feminist at all, I'm just pro responsibility and anti dysfunction. Toxic masculinty doesn't create men who remain composed under pressure, it creates men who act out in an unhealthy way because they don't know how to express themselves in a constructive way.

There's no shortage of "man up" in the Black community and there's no shortage of emotional Black men who respond with anger or violence over matters that could be resolved with better communication.

Just because you communicate with your father frequently and think he's great doesnt mean he was a good father or that he taught you well.

There is no doubt that toxic masculinity exists and effects our communities adversely, I dont disagree there. The issue is you saying that a man telling a boy "dont cry, man up" is toxic, which as I said reveals alot about you. Teaching a boy to push himself and not give into pressure through emotionalism is valuable to any community and far, far from toxic.

Also I wonder what the replacement for "dont cry, man up" should be, should we teach our boys to give into their emotions and sit there crying whenever they have any negative feelings or are under any sort of untoward pressure? Seriously, since telling them to do the opposite is "toxic" what would you advocate?
 

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I agree with the title and this bold sentence. I do think that they should have done a movie with those same messages behind it WITHOUT it dealing with gay black males. They should've used hetero black males instead. Using gay black males to speak about this only reinforces to those already homophobic/ "toxic" hypermasculine males that it is indeed gay to be bulnerable and show emotions. Because the characters are gay, those males will not focus on the message and will only talk about gay.



They did not say y'all are toxic, they said a lot of y'alls idea of a man, manhood and masculinity is toxic and I agree 100%. I see/hear it everyday. Y'all even bring it onto here.


I also find it strange that women are raving about this movie when some of them also participate in keeping SOME of the ideals of y'alls warped idea of masculinity alive, especially when it can benefit them.
:heh: at women and gay men trying to lecture straight men on what masculinity should encompass. This is why the liberal agenda is being pushed on us. It keeps us weak and bytchmade(literally) as a people.
 

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:heh: at women and gay men trying to lecture straight men on what masculinity should encompass. This is why the liberal agenda is being pushed on us. It keeps us weak and bytchmade(literally) as a people.
The thing is i dont hear any peep about the negative figures in all these other groups lol.

No articles about toxic Femininty of hoodrats who partake in child abuse, domestic violance etc.

No articles about toxic homosexuality dealing with the hypersexual sub cultures of sex clubs and reckless unprotected sex putting themselves and others at risk

:mjlol:
 

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The thing is i dont hear any peep about the negative figures in all these other groups lol.

No articles about toxic Femininty of hoodrats who partake in child abuse, domestic violance etc.

No articles about toxic homosexuality dealing with the hypersexual sub cultures of sex clubs and reckless unprotected sex putting themselves and others at risk

:mjlol:
Dope avi:salute:
 

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I'm not angry my parents brought me into the world, I'm doing fairly well for myself. I am an anomaly in the community I come from where most of the people I grew up with are still living in poverty yet they are producing children who are born into mediocrity instead of exercising responsibility with their sexual organs.

Again, what are YOUR suggestions, as much as you complain about my suggestions, they exist whereas yours are very absent.

That's an education problem. There are already planned parenthood clinics in every hood. Abortions are shockingly common. Maybe, just maybe, if money was spent educating people period and providing them with job skills instead of the useless ass common core education system we have, young poor black women wouldn't see a baby as the only way to secure food and housing from the state.

You're assertion that black people need to be spayed and neutered like animals is sinister as fukk honestly. You're a eugenicist
 

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I don't see how one movie defines black masculinity. Thats like saying Don't be a menace while drinking your juice in the hood accurately portrayed all black men and black communities. This movie is just that, a movie. Accept it as such and stop acting like this movie will effeminate every young black person that watches it. This whole feminization shtick is overplayed. Black masculinity survived slavery, the fukk is a movie gonna do to it? :heh:
Why cant the emasculation of black men be compared to something like "rape culture"?
Is every woman being raped in the street? No. But just like certain media and ideals can be called out as rape culture I feel the same should apply to black male emasculation if we're gonna legitimize certain sayings.

Do i think this movie is going to ruin black men? No, but the praise and accolades its getting with these quotes like the op are akin to what has been happening since slavery. No one can deny that since we were brought over here one of the main goals was to break and emasculate the black man. Just as the women were abused, raped and put in charge, the black man was abused, raped and made to feel like a child or a woman.

Those ideals didnt just vanish, they are still here today. Alot of people would rather see a black man as a passive, soft speaking, non threatening, eunuch like entity. You can look up the studies where gay and effeminate black men are more likely to be hired and get higher salaries than the opposite(this is something no one ever talks about for w/e reason)

This is a very real concern.
 

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did'nt read the article but going to support the film this weekend
 
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